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Joey Barton is a very naughty boy. Discuss.

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Dokko

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If we sack him do we get our money back like Mutu having to pay Chelsea his transfer fee?

 

If so sack him. I do think he's got a talent and could do well, but in the end of the day he deserves it and we can go get a player who isn't a walking time bomb.

 

 

 

Not sure i have read somewhere that we will

 

Then we sack him and make him pay £5.8m.

 

That will teach the tosser. He's made a massive effort since coming out of the clinic but we've got to look after the club, and getting our coin back would be the best thing for the club imo.

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If we sack him do we get our money back like Mutu having to pay Chelsea his transfer fee?

 

If so sack him. I do think he's got a talent and could do well, but in the end of the day he deserves it and we can go get a player who isn't a walking time bomb.

 

 

 

Not sure i have read somewhere that we will

 

Then we sack him and make him pay £5.8m.

 

That will teach the tosser. He's made a massive effort since coming out of the clinic but we've got to look after the club, and getting our coin back would be the best thing for the club imo.

 

how can we make him pay us 5.8m dude?  put a gun to his head?

 

think the mutu ruling was down to the fact that after his ban he went to juve for nowt when chelski still held his registration wasn't it?  so they're effectively making him pay back the fee chelski should have got from juve

 

if we sack barton any fee would come from his next club as we would have the registration

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Meanwhile, Joey Barton’s agent Willie McKay has met Wise and Jimenez in London to discuss the situation with United’s jailed midfielder.

 

United are understandably not happy with the situation, not so much on moral grounds which would be admirable, but more from the financial point of view.

 

It’s an open secret that United owner Mike Ashley would like to cut back on the club’s £60,000-a-week men – and there are plenty of them.

 

Barton is one, with United wanting to reduce his £65,000-a-week wages by half.

 

The word is that United have three choices with Barton – sell him, sack him or get the controversial midfielder to take a massive wage cut.

 

And I hear that United would favour the latter option.

 

I'd be happy with that option.

 

Barton on £65,000 a week is sickening btw.

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Conversely, imagine you are told to halve your wages or get sacked.

 

Are you going to want to play for a club that holds you over a barrel?

 

Just sack the bastard, if so.

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Dokko

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If we sack him do we get our money back like Mutu having to pay Chelsea his transfer fee?

 

If so sack him. I do think he's got a talent and could do well, but in the end of the day he deserves it and we can go get a player who isn't a walking time bomb.

 

 

 

Not sure i have read somewhere that we will

 

Then we sack him and make him pay £5.8m.

 

That will teach the tosser. He's made a massive effort since coming out of the clinic but we've got to look after the club, and getting our coin back would be the best thing for the club imo.

 

how can we make him pay us 5.8m dude?  put a gun to his head?

 

think the mutu ruling was down to the fact that after his ban he went to juve for nowt when chelski still held his registration wasn't it?  so they're effectively making him pay back the fee chelski should have got from juve

 

if we sack barton any fee would come from his next club as we would have the registration

 

Well i guess just like Chelsea we can sack him and hold his registration for the next 4 years.

 

So he cannot play football or be paid for his footballing ability till then.

 

He really is going to take the pay cut, or i can see us sacking him and finishing his career off for good.

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With Emre being sold I don't see how we can let Barton go, sad fact is we are going to need him, unless all of a sudden we start to make progress with some new signings.

 

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"We are in discussion with his representatives about what is best for the club going forward.

 

"Obviously, we are not going to ignore the fact that he is currently in jail. It is too early to say whether Joey being sacked is a possible outcome but we are talking about what the future holds."

 

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Newcastle are planning to sack jailed £55,000-a-week midfielder Joey Barton unless he agrees to a 50-per-cent pay cut.

 

Manager Kevin Keegan wants to keep Barton, despite him being imprisoned for six months in May for assault and affray.

 

The player faces another trial later this month for allegedly assaulting his then Manchester City clubmate Ousmane Dabo last year.

 

But the Newcastle hierarchy, led by owner Mike Ashley, executive director Dennis Wise and vice-president Tony Jimenez, are not happy and could move to dismiss the player even before the case begins on June 30.

 

Stuart Pearce, City boss at the time of the Dabo incident and now an assistant to England head coach Fabio Capello, will be a key witness for the prosecution at Manchester Crown Court, where he and a number of players are expected to give eyewitness accounts of what happened at the training ground in May 2007.

 

Newcastle have taken legal advice since Barton was involved in violent incidents in his home city of Liverpool in December.

 

He has four years of his contract to run, but Newcastle believe his conviction and imprisonment give them legal grounds to sack him for gross misconduct and avoid paying up the remainder of his deal, just as Chelsea did after Adrian Mutu failed a drugs test in 2004.

 

A FIFA tribunal have now told Mutu he must pay Chelsea £9.4million over the incident. Newcastle would try to retain Barton's registration to recoup some of the £5.8m they paid City.

 

Barton, who has not been paid since he was jailed, has been told his only hope of staying is if he agrees a pay cut of up to 50 per cent and even that offer, which he is unlikely to accept, will be withdrawn if he is convicted in the Dabo case.

 

Newcastle feel the forthcoming trial will further tarnish the club's image and the fall-out from the incident with former France star Dabo will hinder their attempts to sign French-speaking players.

 

France and St Etienne striker Bafetimbi Gomis, now at Euro 2008, was the latest to reject them.

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Can't see how this is happen.  Why would he agree to half his wages?

 

Because we can sack him and stop him playing for anyone else for four years.

 

Its not going to be that straight forward, naive to think it is IMO

 

Agreed, his right to work is guaranteed under the Human Rights Act and we could be seen to be infringing on that right should we stop paying him and yet still refuse to let him play for anyone else.

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Who the hell would buy him? Just get rid of him one way or another. Didn't think anyone was going to buy him from City, but we did. It's time to get rid and move on without him.

 

 

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Can't see how this is happen.  Why would he agree to half his wages?

 

Because we can sack him and stop him playing for anyone else for four years.

 

Its not going to be that straight forward, naive to think it is IMO

 

Agreed, his right to work is guaranteed under the Human Rights Act and we could be seen to be infringing on that right should we stop paying him and yet still refuse to let him play for anyone else.

 

See Adrian Mutu.

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Can't see how this is happen.  Why would he agree to half his wages?

 

Yes. Did Chelsea stop Mutu playing for anyone else? It seems that once we tear up his contract we are in fact releasing his registration, thus making him a free agent and meaning that we have to go after Barton himself for the money, not his next club.

 

That's my understanding of it anyway.

Because we can sack him and stop him playing for anyone else for four years.

 

Its not going to be that straight forward, naive to think it is IMO

 

Agreed, his right to work is guaranteed under the Human Rights Act and we could be seen to be infringing on that right should we stop paying him and yet still refuse to let him play for anyone else.

 

See Adrian Mutu.

 

Yes. But Chelsea couldn't stop him playing for Juve could they? It seems that once we tear up his contract we would also be releasing his registration, thus making him a free agent. Meaning that his next club wouldn't be liable for any sort of transfer fee and we would have to go after Barton himself for the money as Chelsea are doing with Mutu.

 

That's my understanding of it anyway.

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