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Sky Sports advert to do with what sport's all about. Their only mention of us has Ferdinand and Ginola talking about us losing 4-3 to Liverpool. All other memories are wins for people and teams. Conspiracy :frantic:

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Bumping this after this bitter 'effort' from Martin Samuel (The Mail)

REPORTAGE - 20/JUN/11  

 

So, what's left to make the Toon swoon? - Martin Samuel, The Mail

It was the eve of a European away game in Germany a few years ago. Manchester United were playing, but Newcastle United were giving them a run back home. A few journalists, a few beers and the talk turned to that most futile of debates: what constitutes a big club? Specifically, did Newcastle now qualify?

There was a significant Geordie presence around the table. The sceptics were outnumbered. And yet, as much as anybody ever wins a pub argument, we thought we carried this one. Our case was that the reach of a truly big club must extend beyond their locality. International stature was required, and therefore a significant European pedigree.

 

Newcastle were huge in the North East, granted, but invisible beyond. Kids in areas not served by a Premier League football club did not gravitate towards them the way they did Manchester United or Liverpool. Half of Singapore were not signed up to the supporters’ club.

 

Name the biggest club in Germany. Easy: Bayern Munich. Now the second. The consensus was for Borussia Dortmund, very strong at the time. And the third? There was much discussion.

 

Finally, it was agreed: Hamburg. And nobody even mentioned Schalke 04. Nobody advocated the third best-supported club in Germany, regularly pulling in crowds of more than 60,000 from the industrial outpost of Gelsenkirchen.

 

Schalke were omitted for the same reason Newcastle would be absent from any list of English juggernauts — because they had never experienced great success in Europe. Hamburg played Nottingham Forest in the 1980 European Cup final and signed Kevin Keegan in his prime.

 

These men, of a certain age, all knew Hamburg. None would recognise Schalke as greater simply because of local support. QED, the same applies to Newcastle. Now, who’s getting the beers in?

 

And without wishing to reignite the hoariest of disputes, never has Newcastle’s place in the hierarchy of football been more relevant than now, having lost arguably their best performer, Kevin Nolan, to second-tier West Ham United.

 

Nolan missed out to Joey Barton in the player of the year polls, but Barton is likely to be on his way, too, as is Jose Enrique, Jonas Gutierrez and perhaps Fabricio Coloccini. Even with £35million from the sale of Andy Carroll in the bank, the men who own Newcastle have looked at the numbers and decided many salaries are too rich for their tastes.

 

Size does matter. The Toon Army will consume the dreadful new shirt and fill the ground as always, they will plaster the name of Demba Ba on the back while waiting for the next local hero to emerge, but it is no longer enough.

Nolan was earning roughly £45,000 per week and was offered an extra year on his contract at £50,000, plus a £500,000 bonus if Newcastle finished in the top 10. West Ham proposed £55,000 per week and the chance to work with Sam Allardyce again, and Nolan took it.

 

Potential is the key here. West Ham may be in the Championship, but the club are eyeing a swift return to the Premier League and a move to the cavernous Olympic stadium.

 

Mike Ashley, Newcastle owner, clearly believes his club are operating at capacity. What would it take to compete with the new elite as represented by Manchester City and Chelsea, or even those bubbling under, like Liverpool or Tottenham Hotspur?

Ashley needs resources that Newcastle cannot generate alone, money that requires global revenue streams he has been unable to exploit. He either throws his own fortune at the problem, or finds a conservative third way.

 

So Newcastle are in limbo. Still big on expectation, hope and desire, just not big enough to stop their best midfielder dropping a division. Previous owners may have been unrealistic in their ambitions but at least they shared them with those in the Gallowgate End.

 

Ashley, an outsider, simply sees Newcastle for what they are. He would have been on the side of cold, hard logic that night in Germany but where is the fun in that?

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Guest sydneycove

Read that before. Load of s***. 'Invisible outside the north east', aye reet. There's probably less north easterners on here than owt else :lol:

 

Fuck and here I was thinking I lived in Sydney, Australia.

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That is the biggest load of shit I have ever read, who ever wrote this is obviously doesn't have a clue whats going on, has he seen some of the people were potentialy going after, and the people we've signed already. Nolan may have been one of the best players in out team last season but in the long run he's going to slow us down, if he wanted £50'000pw for five years there's no way i want him on a contract for that long and on that much. And to slag off a player who scored 7 goals in 10 games for a team that got relegated is ridiculous. People should'nt comment on thing when they obviously don't know whats going on.

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The best retort to Martin Samuel's jibe I've seen, was by someone called Old Leazes on another forum.

 

He wrote..

Martin Samuels always strikes me as a bit of a cunt. He comes from the same school of journalism as Mick Dennis, a know nothing cliche spouting twat. Newcastle ARE a big club. Probably the second biggest in the country after Man Utd in my opinion. It's not about winning trophies, that denotes a successful club. There's a difference between big and successful. For instance : I've got a big cock, buty I've not had much success with it of late. Does that affect the size?

 

:snod:

 

 

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Probably the second biggest in the country after Man Utd in my opinion.

 

:doh:

 

Thought the same meself, that's why I never highlighted that bit. :)

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Guest sicko2ndbest

Brought the NOTW this morning and they have the front pages that rocked the world over the past 100 years. The toongate affair is one of the front pages up there with the breaking of WW2 and the titanic sinking!

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