Orphanage Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: Ok then, I will. If your preference for a commentator is based on their sex, and you prefer male commentators for no other reason than because they're male, that's prejudice against women because they're women, which is misogyny. Misogyny is hatred for women . Theres no hatred in having a preference for men commentating on mens football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, Adam P said: A preference for men over women is misogynistic? So gay men are misogynistic? thanks for adding to the debate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 A strong preference for men over women was called something else when i was a kid. I am not saying Keegan is gay before anyone starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, Orphanage said: Misogyny is hatred for women . Theres no hatred in having a preference for men commentating on mens football So you're not misogynist, you're just prejudiced against women? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 He’s entitled to his opinion without people getting so upset about it, or it being even remotely considered controversial. Female pundits have not lived the same experience as the top level men when offering opinions on men’s football. The same could be said for men commenting on the women’s game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I don't hate you, I just think men are better because they're men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, NUFC_Chris said: He’s entitled to his opinion without people getting so upset about it, or it being even remotely considered controversial. Female pundits have not lived the same experience as the top level men when offering opinions on men’s football. The same could be said for men commenting on the women’s game. No-one's taking away his entitlement, I'm saying his opinion is shit. No-one's lived the same experience as anyone else. Edited October 5, 2023 by Dr Venkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Adam P said: I am not saying Keegan is gay before anyone starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, Dr Venkman said: So you're not misogynist, you're just prejudiced against women? Nope . Im pro men commentating on mens football . I dont see the sudden need for female pundits or commentators in the mens game . Its a solution to a problem that doesnt exist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: I don't hate you, I just think men are better because they're men. Cry harder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Venkman in the dirt for understanding the dictionary. Edited October 5, 2023 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: No-one's taking away his entitlement, I'm saying his opinion is shit. Your resorting to calling people names because they have a different opinion to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Bizarre debate this one like. Think I’ll excuse myself, prejudice against women is misogyny. I’ve got no issue with people disliking certain female pundits but the idea that they will always be unwelcome or worse than male pundits is mad. See you soon lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I’m fine with broadcasters having female pundits, but I also don’t think they’ve played the game at a very good standard, compared to the men, and I’m not sure their experience is all that relevant. If I cared about what pundits are saying, this may create an issue. Of course, most male pundits are shite anyway, which renders it a bit of a non-issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, Orphanage said: Nope . Im pro men commentating on mens football . I dont see the sudden need for female pundits or commentators in the mens game . Its a solution to a problem that doesnt exist It's not sudden, there's been an imbalance in society with bias towards men for a long, long time It's a measure taken to address an imbalance in our society which can be observed in many aspects of society and culture, one of which is sport It's a solution to a problem that does exist but you can't see/don't care about because you're a man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Cry harder Shut up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: It's not sudden, there's been an imbalance in society with bias towards men for a long, long time It's a measure taken to address an imbalance in our society which can be observed in many aspects of society and culture, one of which is sport It's a solution to a problem that does exist but you can't see/don't care about because you're a man Think you'll find that women are doing ok in society . Womens football is coming along in leaps and bounds . Its possible to have advancement for women and womens football without having female pundits / commentators the mens game . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, Magpie said: The absolute fucking state of this ??? https://twitter.com/theclublivetw/status/1709664919631675463?s=46&t=CRVDoC05Fds07k8Kbn-wdg Not sure which of those 3 daft cunts I'd like to see die in a fire more. Probably that muggy little Chelsea wank in the middle. The sense of how gutted they all were was palpable, inject it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Daft comments from Keagan, and before people go on about wanting men on men’s games, remember it’s the same root cause as all those ex pros who tell fans “you’ve never played the game at a top level so you can’t comment” it’s a way of busted old knackers protecting what they see as their patch from outsiders or defending themselves when their opinions are nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Current WSL matches you seem to get much more time on the ball than you do in 2023 Premier League, but then the football of Keegan's playing era looks slower paced and less intense as well (remember being able to pass back to the keeper and have him pick it up?) . He still seems willing to stick his oar in about the modern game though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Daft comments from Keagan, and before people go on about wanting men on men’s games, remember it’s the same root cause as all those ex pros who tell fans “you’ve never played the game at a top level so you can’t comment” it’s a way of busted old knackers protecting what they see as their patch from outsiders or defending themselves when their opinions are nonsense Keegans a busted old knacker ? Hush child Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Using an example, if you're more interested in listening to the opinions of Agbonlahor or Merson over, say, Alex Scott, and your reason for that is "because they're men" then it doesn’t matter whether you say you're a misogynist or not, you're still the definition of one. Edited October 5, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Cry harder Oof. This place reached a new depth. Almost impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Nope . Im pro men commentating on mens football . I dont see the sudden need for female pundits or commentators in the mens game . Its a solution to a problem that doesnt exist For you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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