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33 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

“Trust me, one day you will get your club back & it will be everything you wanted it to be.”

 

Hope you were watching that today, King Kev, and had a smile on your face. 

 

He's never wrong. Never.

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Just now, Scoreboard82 said:

We were in a bad way when Eddie took over but in absolutely dire straights when KK came in. 

Yep, that’s what keeps him there for me.  Eddie won a trophy for the club Keegan built.  Howe is comfortably no.2 for me - Robson is a fair way behind in 3rd IMO

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Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Yep, that’s what keeps him there for me.  Eddie won a trophy for the club Keegan built.  Howe is comfortably no.2 for me - Robson is a fair way behind in 3rd IMO

 

I'm going to get some pelters my way but bobby gets too much credit imo.  He inherited a decent team just with a shite manager.

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3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

I'm going to get some pelters my way but bobby gets too much credit imo.  He inherited a decent team just with a shite manager.

I do too mate - but I’m struggling to think of someone who I’d comfortably put 3rd otherwise.  It’s somehow forgotten that he also inherited one of the five richest clubs in Europe.  It took years and a LOT of money to get results - and even then, the most consistent players when he left were already there when he arrived.   

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2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I do too mate - but I’m struggling to think of someone who I’d comfortably put 3rd otherwise.  It’s somehow forgotten that he also inherited one of the five richest clubs in Europe.  It took years and a LOT of money to get results - and even then, the most consistent players when he left were already there when he arrived.   

 

Bellamy and Robert transformed a decent but inconsistent team but apart from that I think everything else he did was pretty average.

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11 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Bellamy and Robert transformed a decent but inconsistent team but apart from that I think everything else he did was pretty average.

 

Pretty average? 

 

He completely rebuilt the team after both Gullit and Dalglish turned a squad that should have been regularly challenging for the title into relegation fodder and was stitched up in his last window with Lee fucking Bowyer. 

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13 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Bellamy and Robert transformed a decent but inconsistent team but apart from that I think everything else he did was pretty average.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but this is quite frankly bull shit sorry

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It is certainly a misconception that Robson inherited a decent team, only three players survived from Keegan’s reign: Barton, Lee and Shearer and all three were physically diminished.

 

He was never particularly well backed in the transfer market either in my view, he worked miracles.

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19 minutes ago, James said:

It is certainly a misconception that Robson inherited a decent team, only three players survived from Keegan’s reign: Barton, Lee and Shearer and all three were physically diminished.

 

He was never particularly well backed in the transfer market either in my view, he worked miracles.

Given, Speed, Solano, Dyer, Shearer, Lee, Barton, Dabizas, Hughes were all inherited.

 

He was very, VERY well backed in the transfer market - we spent ten times more on Titus Bramble than Arsenal did on Kolo Toure that same summer.  He spent c.£150m on transfers - that wasn’t buttons at the turn of the century.  He wasn’t backed in the summer of ‘03, which was daft.  

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35 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Given, Speed, Solano, Dyer, Shearer, Lee, Barton, Dabizas, Hughes were all inherited.

 

He was very, VERY well backed in the transfer market - we spent ten times more on Titus Bramble than Arsenal did on Kolo Toure that same summer.  He spent c.£150m on transfers - that wasn’t buttons at the turn of the century.  He wasn’t backed in the summer of ‘03, which was daft.  

 

I'm glad someone posted this, I was going to say much of that 01/02 was the gullit team.  Bobby with Mick Wordsworth wasted millions in 00/01.

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On 28/03/2025 at 11:58, Ellis H said:

If we’re serious about it, it’ll be a full size statue of him getting in the helicopter right in the middle of the pitch. We’ll just have to play around it.

I will prob still back him 1st goal 

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1 minute ago, El Prontonise said:

 

I'm glad someone posted this, I was going to say much of that 01/02 was the gullit team.  Bobby with Mick Wordsworth wasted millions in 00/01.

Carl Cort cost almost as much as Man Utd spent that summer. 

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1 hour ago, El Prontonise said:

 

I'm going to get some pelters my way but bobby gets too much credit imo.  He inherited a decent team just with a shite manager.


I feel like managers and players alike aren't held in such high regard for football achievements alone - but for their personality and ability to connect with the supporters. This is true of Keegan, Robson and Howe. To reduce it down only to footballing achievements is to miss the point a little bit imo.

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I always praise Sir Bobby to the hilt for what he did with what he had, never really thought until this thread that being unimpresed on face value with what he had was largely due to his not buying well.

Was reported at the time that Robert and Bellamy (just about the two exceptions) were lucky escape alternates for Zenden and Jeffers.

He did great for me though. Was a complete turn around in results and performances with what he inherited to what had gone before in 99/00 which proved his coaching credentials (51points in 32games for a side that had 23pts from the previous26).

Definitely didn't inherit a decent team for me either.

Though 00/01 was horrid, it was still better than Gullits and Dalglish's league season which cup runs did a lot to disguise.

 

Keegan though still. But they're playing different games really. Spiritually KK as well as management. Others management.

 

 

 

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On 29/03/2025 at 21:17, El Prontonise said:

 

I'm going to get some pelters my way but bobby gets too much credit imo.  He inherited a decent team just with a shite manager.

Did he? I seem to recall it taking nearly two years for Sir Bobby to get decent signings in and then us flying. But before then it was a case of trying to fix a really unbalanced side with cheap pick ups from South America (Acuna, Cordone, Bassedas) or free's like Gallagher.

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