Paully Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Fantastic! Spinetingling viewing that. God I wish I could feel so passionate now. It's been mentioned numerous times but it's an absolute travesty that he is not the figurehead for NUFC - the passion he shows in this clip alone for the Club and the fans is amazing. The King! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 The first few pages of this thread So many mentions of Ashley spending his money... Oh how naive on reflection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 https://www.football365.com/news/everybody-loves-kevin-keegan-liverpool-newcastle-england Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola1949 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I've have supported the club for over 60 years. With out doubt the best time was when he played for us, then as our manager. Unbelievable times as a toon fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Was absolute stuff of dreams when world superstar KK signed for 2nd division US as a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 He’s always been his own harshest critic. Imagine him as an ambassador for NUFC under a new regime. What a waste he’s not involved in football or media at any level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 What a man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 This was a really good watch, about Keegan's secrets of Leadership: I actually think he's one of the most underrated managers ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 This was a really good watch, about Keegan's secrets of Leadership: I actually think he's one of the most underrated managers ever. Definitely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Even with a relatively shit team in his short stint under Ashley, it still felt like a football match was something to enjoy. I'm sure the critics were right, he had tactical flaws, but his football worked better than what we've been watching in the last 10 years, and it was fun to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Even with a relatively s*** team in his short stint under Ashley, it still felt like a football match was something to enjoy. I'm sure the critics were right, he had tactical flaws, but his football worked better than what we've been watching in the last 10 years, and it was fun to watch. But aren’t lots of those tactical flaws now what you might consider in the make up of a modern manager? Ie defenders who do more than just defend. Not sitting back and trying to defend a lead, Michael Owen in a position not to dissimilar to a false 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Had KK known how to sign a top keeper and bought Colin Hendry we’d have been almost unstoppable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Had KK known how to sign a top keeper and bought Colin Hendry we’d have been almost unstoppable. Totally agree, the central defenders just didn’t have that bit more needed to win those games where teams had us under pressure. And the game at SJP against Man Utd, we battered them just as much as we did in the 5-0, just Schmeichel somehow kept the ball out of the net, then the sucker punch. Pav or Shaka never gave us that, as good as they were. Also the game against Liverpool, the 4-3, with some proper leadership at the back we might have hung on in that game. And that would have been the league.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 He wasn't tactically flawed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 He wasn't tactically flawed. Yeap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 We were a soft touch at times when we blew the league. Forget the games we usually think of that season, away games at Wimbledon, West Ham, Man City & typically Southampton spring to mind where we dropped points either through not being strong enough mentally or we just didn’t turn up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 This was a really good watch, about Keegan's secrets of Leadership: I actually think he's one of the most underrated managers ever. Cheers for the link. Mad that he's a few months off 70. Doesn't look it at all, looks in great shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Even with a relatively s*** team in his short stint under Ashley, it still felt like a football match was something to enjoy. I'm sure the critics were right, he had tactical flaws, but his football worked better than what we've been watching in the last 10 years, and it was fun to watch. But aren’t lots of those tactical flaws now what you might consider in the make up of a modern manager? Ie defenders who do more than just defend. Not sitting back and trying to defend a lead, Michael Owen in a position not to dissimilar to a false 9. Yeah I think that's probably a fair call. If anything I always felt the players just didn't quite have the belief or experience of winning trophies and a few of them choked a bit at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Ian Woan/ Graeme Fenton, take your pick. So many missed opportunities to win the league, 1 signing away, we gave teams a chance and away from home too many times we weren’t strong enough. We should have won the league by at least 7 points. The raw figures from the league suggest that we really were 2nd best, the truth is that it took a real combination of fairly unlikely circumstances for us not to win it. I can’t believe to this day that some of the players doubted that they’d see it through. A real leader on the pitch; we’d have pissed it and would have built on it. We never recovered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I’ve said this a few times on here, but if we had a top goalkeeper that season we would’ve won the league. Keegan should’ve went all out to get a Flowers or a Seaman instead of gambling on Hislop who had never played in the top flight if i remember right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Even with a relatively s*** team in his short stint under Ashley, it still felt like a football match was something to enjoy. I'm sure the critics were right, he had tactical flaws, but his football worked better than what we've been watching in the last 10 years, and it was fun to watch. But aren’t lots of those tactical flaws now what you might consider in the make up of a modern manager? Ie defenders who do more than just defend. Not sitting back and trying to defend a lead, Michael Owen in a position not to dissimilar to a false 9. Yeah I think that's probably a fair call. If anything I always felt the players just didn't quite have the belief or experience of winning trophies and a few of them choked a bit at the end of the season. Agree with that. Also think Keegan's famous man management might not have been as good as made out. Probably didn’t handle Cole aswell as SAF. Think Pav mentioned shortly before he died Keegan said in a fairly nasty way something along the lines of” why can’t you keep us In Games like Schmiechel”. This before a important game (might have been the 4-3) ruined his confidence completely. Think Sir Les mentioned being complacent, and ofcourse Ginola being roughed up by Dixon saw a dip in form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On Pav: Writing in his new book Srnicek has given his most detailed account yet of the iconic game. He said: “It may have been christened the greatest Premier League match of all time, but for me it was the worst moment and memory of my entire career. I wouldn’t care, I used to love going to Anfield. My first game for the reserves was at Liverpool and I performed magnificently. “I always seemed to have a good game when I visited the red side of Merseyside so I was really looking forward to the contest.” The ex-Toon star then explained a twist in the story. He said: “Kevin was going around the dressing room prior to the kick off, having the odd word of encouragement with some of the players. Admittedly, we’d had a mixed bag of results before this fixture but we were still confident of winning. Then, just before we went out onto the pitch, Keegan turned to me and said ‘Pav, why can’t you be more like Schmeichel, and win a game for us? I was astounded! Those words killed me! I was deflated! After he said that, I couldn’t play. I felt as if I’d just been smashed on the head. Anything I’d been feeling prior to that comment: adrenaline, excitement and anticipation, all of the emotions you generally experience before you run onto the pitch prior to a match, had evaporated! “I had nothing! No strength; no confidence; no will; nothing. Keegan might as well have said ‘You’re s***! I have no faith in you’. “I was thinking, I can’t go and play now. I needed to tell him but then I thought I have to go and play. My head was all over the place. I couldn’t concentrate on the game. I resented Kevin at that point. “This was one of the biggest games of the season. And he’d more or less told me I was a second rate goalkeeper. “I had never been given any words of encouragement in all of my time at the club. “I thought what have you ever done for me? Every time he knocked me on the floor, one way or another, I had to pick myself up, dust myself down and get on with it.” In a crazy game at Anfield, Newcastle were twice ahead at 2-1 and 3-2 before Stan Collymore’s influence won the game for Reds. An equaliser on 68 minutes tied the game up at 3-3 and even a point wouldn’t have been a bad result. However, as John Barnes and Ian Rush started to exchange passes Collymore lashed home to squeeze the ball between Srnieck’s near post and his body. Pav reflected: “Were any of the goals my fault? Maybe one of them was down to me; perhaps one of the Collymore goals. “I just tried to spread myself the best I could but I wasn’t mentally right during the game. The last words Kevin said to me just kept going around and around in my head all the way through the game. “Losing the match, conceding the goals and in essence throwing away the title, they weren’t the worst things for me. It was Keegan’s words prior to going out to play; they were a hammer blow. “I have never watched a replay or any highlights of that game because it is too painful a memory. I can still hear Kevin saying those hurtful words now. It makes me sad. “I don’t know whether the score would’ve been any different and the course of history would’ve been changed but I would’ve been up for the game more. “I have never discussed this with anyone before. It’s been a burden I’ve carried around with me ever since that fateful night.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Even with a relatively s*** team in his short stint under Ashley, it still felt like a football match was something to enjoy. I'm sure the critics were right, he had tactical flaws, but his football worked better than what we've been watching in the last 10 years, and it was fun to watch. But aren’t lots of those tactical flaws now what you might consider in the make up of a modern manager? Ie defenders who do more than just defend. Not sitting back and trying to defend a lead, Michael Owen in a position not to dissimilar to a false 9. Yeah I think that's probably a fair call. If anything I always felt the players just didn't quite have the belief or experience of winning trophies and a few of them choked a bit at the end of the season. Agree with that. Also think Keegan's famous man management might not have been as good as made out. Probably didn’t handle Cole aswell as SAF. Think Pav mentioned shortly before he died Keegan said in a fairly nasty way something along the lines of” why can’t you keep us In Games like Schmiechel”. This before a important game (might have been the 4-3) ruined his confidence completely. Think Sir Les mentioned being complacent, and ofcourse Ginola being roughed up by Dixon saw a dip in form. Cole performed fine for Kev, he wasn't there for our title push season anyway. I was thinking more of the likes of Ferdinand and Lee who had been on fire in the first half of the season but both of them dried up a bit on the goals in the latter part of it. I think a bit of doubt crept in for a lot of players, and tbf you could argue some of them were already playing above themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I was using Cole as more of an example how Keegans man management wasn’t quite as good as often claimed. But yeah agree with the rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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