Guest Brazilianbob Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Anyone else starting to think the establishment is conspiring to get us relegated because (a) Ashley is the new boy on the block who ripped off the city when he floated Sports Direct; and (b) the fans contributed to getting the great white hope of English football (BSA) sacked without giving him enough time? I know I sound paranoid, but the number of blatantly wrong decisions that are going against us are verging on the unbelievable. If it was happening to ManU or Arsenal they would be calling for a public enquiry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Nope. Those decisions always go against a club like Newcastle, especially when you are at the bottom. The main reason they wont bring in TV replays any time soon - it will hurt the big boys too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Nope. Those decisions always go against a club like Newcastle, especially when you are at the bottom. The main reason they wont bring in TV replays any time soon - it will hurt the big boys too much. Two questions: 1 - Who is at "the bottom" then? 2 - Who are "the big boys" then? Why do some people not know that the 'current' three most successful clubs (or "four", or "two" or whatever) have not always been that and will not always be that . . . It is all just temporary. Also, why do some people think mid-table is at the bottom, when talking about us? Both things appear to be borne out of having some kind of 'Inferiority Complex'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Jesus fucking christ!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Erich von Manstein Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Jesus fucking christ!!! Exactly, how fucking embarrassing is this thread? We're shite is the reason we're not doing well, when will people stop making excuses for the players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Deary me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hodgson09 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 We have a mid-table squad a squad that would and has lost against reserve teams in the top 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Tbf there has been a pretty shocking run of poor luck and decisions in the past few rounds. But other than that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Anyone else starting to think the establishment is conspiring to get us relegated because (a) Ashley is the new boy on the block who ripped off the city when he floated Sports Direct; and (b) the fans contributed to getting the great white hope of English football (BSA) sacked without giving him enough time? I know I sound paranoid, but the number of blatantly wrong decisions that are going against us are verging on the unbelievable. If it was happening to ManU or Arsenal they would be calling for a public enquiry. Anyone else starting to think the establishment is conspiring to get us relegated because (a) Ashley is the new boy on the block who ripped off the city when he floated Sports Direct; and (b) the fans contributed to getting the great white hope of English football (BSA) sacked without giving him enough time? I know I sound paranoid, but the number of blatantly wrong decisions that are going against us are verging on the unbelievable. If it was happening to ManU or Arsenal they would be calling for a public enquiry. People should do some research on the famous Lobo-Solti case which was investigated by the famous Sunday Times Football correspondent, Brian Glanville.This concerned some incredible happenings during the 2 European Cup Games between Juventus and Derby County when Clough was in charge in 1973. The stuff Glanville uncovered by talking to the Ref, the Portuguese Lobo was absolutely mind-blowing... Do not doubt anything in Football.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Nope. Those decisions always go against a club like Newcastle, especially when you are at the bottom. The main reason they wont bring in TV replays any time soon - it will hurt the big boys too much. Two questions: 1 - Who is at "the bottom" then? 2 - Who are "the big boys" then? Why do some people not know that the 'current' three most successful clubs (or "four", or "two" or whatever) have not always been that and will not always be that . . . It is all just temporary. Also, why do some people think mid-table is at the bottom, when talking about us? Both things appear to be borne out of having some kind of 'Inferiority Complex'. Man United have had decisions go there way for at least the past 15 years, more or less the same with Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. As long as those 4 have been qualifying for CL theyve had decisions go their way. Teams at the bottom are those 5 or 6 down near relegation, it happens every year that bad decisions go against them, tho its highlighted by the fact they are at the bottom. Theres no doubt in my mind that the FA want Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool to finish in the top 4, and after that they'd be happy if a London team broke in. TV replays might harm this, though I also believe some officials are on the take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'm always amazed at people in this country thinking that refs can't possibly be corrupted. Well either they are corruptible or their decision making is flawed to the point of embarrassment. How many times do Man U get decisions that other teams wouldn't? The refs may not be corrupted in that case but they are so scared of Ferguson they bottle it every time. On the other hand I was amazed to see Clattenburg book Rooney for diving in the penalty area on Saturday, but there is no doubt in my mind if that had been against us at Old Trafford reffed by Mike Riley or the clown we had on Saturday that would have definitely been a Man U penalty. And the refs come to our place with an attitude of "I'm going to show these Geordie bastards I'm not going to be swayed by them", surely its there for all of us to see? If they aren't corruptible, or do it because they're scared of Ferguson and the like they are a bunch of inadequate muppets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Jesus fucking christ!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 medication is needed here like, maybe a spell in a nice quiet padded room, your getting a tad bit paranoid mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Anyone else starting to think the establishment is conspiring to get us relegated because (a) Ashley is the new boy on the block who ripped off the city when he floated Sports Direct; and (b) the fans contributed to getting the great white hope of English football (BSA) sacked without giving him enough time? I know I sound paranoid, but the number of blatantly wrong decisions that are going against us are verging on the unbelievable. If it was happening to ManU or Arsenal they would be calling for a public enquiry. Yeah that's far more believable than us just being a bit shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Jesus fucking christ!!! Jesus titty-fucking Christ!!! IYAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I know I sound paranoid. That bit I agree with. Sorry, mate, but I just don't think we're very good at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 It was hilarious watching the replay of the goals on SKY just after the final whistle at St James' in the concourse area. This guy was screaming at the TV saying 2 Boro players were offside, so i turned around and said to him why aren't you screaming at the defence for allowing 2 players to be coming in at the back post and winning a header when trying to supposedly defend a lead. There is no conspiracy, the decisions are not making us shite - the players can handle that one all by themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Stupid thread of the day alert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 OK I'll get me coat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 It was hilarious watching the replay of the goals on SKY just after the final whistle at St James' in the concourse area. This guy was screaming at the TV saying 2 Boro players were offside, so i turned around and said to him why aren't you screaming at the defence for allowing 2 players to be coming in at the back post and winning a header when trying to supposedly defend a lead. I bet you didn't. I bet you mumbled it to your mate quiet enough so that the bloke couldn't hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 It was hilarious watching the replay of the goals on SKY just after the final whistle at St James' in the concourse area. This guy was screaming at the TV saying 2 Boro players were offside, so i turned around and said to him why aren't you screaming at the defence for allowing 2 players to be coming in at the back post and winning a header when trying to supposedly defend a lead. I bet you didn't. I bet you mumbled it to your mate quiet enough so that the bloke couldn't hear. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 who cares about bad luck this year, well get good luck next season lads, id much prefer it when we arent shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 If you honestly start believing that refs are corrupted then surely there's not much point in following football right now? That said, the mistakes are so grievous and frequent at the minute that they could do with an investigation as to why. Not necessarily accusing them of taking bribes etc., but actually sitting down the British refs in front of a large video screen and explaining why hundreds of decisions in the last few years have been simply appaulling. Right now luck is not on our side ref wise, but it really has been in the past so it's a "what goes around, comes around" situation for me. I don't think they're corrupt, just really, really shit and unaware of how football is actually played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Reffing will never be perfect in football because so many decisions are pretty much 50/50 borderline. Depending on the ref's personality, he'll either always give these decisions to the home side, due to influence from the crowd, or always to the away side, in order to appear more "neutral" even though he's being just as unfair. The ref will always be biased to one side or another. The top 4, of course, will always get decisions just by being who they are. In a pardoxical way, I think Uriah Rennie is actually the fairest ref in the league. He'll almost invariably get every borderline decision wrong, regardless of which side is involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Last night I had to rip the thermostat off the wall. Those guys in the black pajamas were using it to spy on me. Two weeks ago a dozen of those bastards came for me and I was barely able to fight them off. I don't know if I could do it again... So yeah, I'm with you. Neither of us is paranoid btw. They really are watching me and now they are watching you too. Be careful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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