Dr Spectrum Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 We'll avoid relegation and start from there. Bet we're laughing about this come Christmas this year. Hope you're right. Looking at Man City as an example. Didn't they go from the New Year upto this season without a home goal? Does help that they appointed a top-class manager in the summer like. I think its odd how similar things are here and up there.....everything from the years of winning fuck all to takeovers to Joey Barton () and plenty in between. Its the main reason I come on here rather than some other clubs website, its like looking in a mirror sometimes. And here we have it. Last season for us was the worst in living memory (This memory includes 3rd division football). We hardly had a shot in the 2nd half of the season and for a time I was convinced we were going to be relegated. Sound familiar? (We're not laughing about it tho. Good fucking grief it was bad.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I know we've been playing quality teams and we have no right to expect points from those games but the amount of goals we've been conceding is pretty frightening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. So Big Sam plays shit football, loses some games and should be given time? KK comes in and loses to Man Utd and Arsenal and should be shown the door? Have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. So Big Sam plays shit football, loses some games and should be given time? KK comes in and loses to Man Utd and Arsenal and should be shown the door? Have a word. I don't think he means that KK should be gone, but that Allardyce should never have been sacked in the first place because it caused upheaval at the wrong time (middle of transfer window, middle of the season ahead of a tough schedule). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. So Big Sam plays shit football, loses some games and should be given time? KK comes in and loses to Man Utd and Arsenal and should be shown the door? Have a word. I don't think he means that KK should be gone, but that Allardyce should never have been sacked in the first place because it caused upheaval at the wrong time (middle of transfer window, middle of the season ahead of a tough schedule). Yep, sorry, in my defence I'm also taking into account the WUM-esque postings over in another thread to the effect that KK should be sacked soon based on some arbitary conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. So Big Sam plays s*** football, loses some games and should be given time? KK comes in and loses to Man Utd and Arsenal and should be shown the door? Have a word. Home draws with Boro and Bolton? Do they not count? What about that miserable performance at Villa? At least with Allardyce we were grinding out results, the football may not have been good at times but we had a team of determined players who wanted to win. You can't say the same about the side now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 6 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 6 games. With someone else's squad no less... one that had been missing 3 (arguably) key players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 6 games. But my point is, there is no improvement! If anything, we are getting worse! Can't you see this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. So Big Sam plays s*** football, loses some games and should be given time? KK comes in and loses to Man Utd and Arsenal and should be shown the door? Have a word. Home draws with Boro and Bolton? Do they not count? What about that miserable performance at Villa? At least with Allardyce we were grinding out results, the football may not have been good at times but we had a team of determined players who wanted to win. You can't say the same about the side now. Did I fall asleep and wake up in an alternate universe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 6 games. But my point is, there is no improvement! If anything, we are getting worse! Can't you see this? I'm not saying we've improved. We probably have got worse in fact. But that is largely down to factors beyond KK's control imo, particularly the fixture list. You're advocating sacking him, I'm saying give him more time. It's not like we have a viable alterative anyway. It's incredibly harsh to judge him on what's happened so far though. And that's not the same as me saying he's a magician above criticism, although it does indicate my faith in the bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 BBC shit-stirring as usual this morning on the radio about KK's position, turning an innocent comment by Shearer into: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7262656.stm Wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Just what are you trying to say they turned that comment into Dave? Looks to me like they left it as it was said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Keegan's inherited a poor squad. He's only had 5 premiership games, 3 of which were against top opposition in Man u, Arsenal and Villa. Granted he had the transfer window without buying. If there's no decent players available, there's no point in buying for the sake of it. Home games v Reading, Fulham, mackems are the key to staying up. Let's hope we do and see if he can re-build in the summer. I'm sure he'll have a damned good try at signing one or two decent players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 But my point is, there is no improvement! If anything, we are getting worse! Can't you see this? You do understand that almost 50% of the points amassed () by Derby came from us under Allardyce. So far Derby look as if they are going to be the worst ever team in the premiership, possibly the top division since football was invented. We might end up being the only team to get beat off them and you think things have got worse since Keegan took over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 We won't go down. Mainly because of the existance of Derby, Reading and Fulham. But, if we maintain with the fucking pathetic delusion that Duff, Smith, Barton, Butt, Viduka, N'Zogbia (at lb) are good enough, then we'll never even get past mid table again, next season or any other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 2 people banned for posting fixtures in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 So what are our next few games, anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 So what are our next few games, anyway? League matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 So what are our next few games, anyway? well there is this game against someone, then another game against someone else... oh and there's that game against someone else after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 If we beat someone else at home, then someone else at home a week or two after we'll be alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 We're going to have to spunk a serious amount of cash on this squad Maybe we can compensate for the fact we're an incredibly unattractive employer in our current position by at least give the impression that we're doing a mini Chelsea and planning to buy a ready-made top class team. After one big signing that we'll have to pay through the nose for both in terms of fee and wages (and possibly getting a player who's not hugely pleased at ending up here), maybe there'll be decent players interested in the prospect of coming aboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The way we are playing, I think we should be happy to pick up 11 points by the end of the season, which means we should stay up. Nonetheless, Allardyce should never have been sacked. So Big Sam plays s*** football, loses some games and should be given time? KK comes in and loses to Man Utd and Arsenal and should be shown the door? Have a word. Home draws with Boro and Bolton? Do they not count? What about that miserable performance at Villa? At least with Allardyce we were grinding out results, the football may not have been good at times but we had a team of determined players who wanted to win. You can't say the same about the side now. Grinding out results?.. In the six games before Keegan came in we got two draws and four losses, exactly the same record as the Keegans first six games but against much worse teams.. There's no evidence what so ever that Allardyce would have done any better against any of the teams we've faced under Keegan (want to talk about drawing to Bolton?, what about drawing and losing the Derby?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Bread Cereal Fabric Conditioner A Motherfucking BRAIN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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