fredbob Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Happy enough, to have him on board to be honest, not sure about his wages though. But getting him to sign a new contract will be very good for us just to get that clause out, i happen to like him as a player, its all fair and where breaking down his individual attributes. which we can all do and most of us can see that he isnt the complete player and most of us can see that his intelligences on a pitch will hinder his progress, but his goalscoring record is pretty undeniable. Its been better than fanstastic considering the 2 mangers and systems he's played under, especially Roeder where he was on his own for most the season. He doesnt suffer from too many injuries and lets be honest i think its fair to say that even though he doesnt use his pace very effectively, he still scares defenders. I dont understand how he gets this much criticsm when he's scored so many goals for us, the bottom line is that he's scored goals for us, and had already saved us from relegation once. Dont get me wrong, i dont think he's the messiah, but i still think he's a player 90% of the teams in the premiership would love to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest float one in Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Happy enough, to have him on board to be honest, not sure about his wages though. But getting him to sign a new contract will be very good for us just to get that clause out, i happen to like him as a player, its all fair and where breaking down his individual attributes. which we can all do and most of us can see that he isnt the complete player and most of us can see that his intelligences on a pitch will hinder his progress, but his goalscoring record is pretty undeniable. Its been better than fanstastic considering the 2 mangers and systems he's played under, especially Roeder where he was on his own for most the season. He doesnt suffer from too many injuries and lets be honest i think its fair to say that even though he doesnt use his pace very effectively, he still scares defenders. I dont understand how he gets this much criticsm when he's scored so many goals for us, the bottom line is that he's scored goals for us, and had already saved us from relegation once. Dont get me wrong, i dont think he's the messiah, but i still think he's a player 90% of the teams in the premiership would love to have. Good comments mate. I am not trying to single him out for criticism and I am grateful for the goals he's scored (last season would have been even worse if not for him, Sib and Milner), I just don't think he is what we need over the coming seasons. Especially on improved wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Good, we need to tie him down to a new contract without get out clauses. Can be very annoying to watch sometimes, but at times you just have to step back and wonder how he can get so much power behind his shots for such a little guy. Also our only striker who can truly run at defenders and cause them to back peddle. Hopefully he'll be the main catalyst to help us dig ourselves out of this rut that we're in. Needs a lot of work on his all round play but I bet Martins more than any other player in the team is enjoying the new Keegan style of training and hopefully he's improving each week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Good, we need to tie him down to a new contract without get out clauses. Can be very annoying to watch sometimes, but at times you just have to step back and wonder how he can get so much power behind his shots for such a little guy. Also our only striker who can truly run at defenders and cause them to back peddle. Hopefully he'll be the main catalyst to help us dig ourselves out of this rut that we're in. Needs a lot of work on his all round play but I bet Martins more than any other player in the team is enjoying the new Keegan style of training and hopefully he's improving each week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smnewport Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Also, he's the only forward we have with any real pace. The one thing all defenders hate playing against is pace!!! I agree sometimes he runs into blind alleys, but the lad is greased fecking lightning when he is running at people! Get him to sign that new contract asap!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Good news, we need his pace and directness. Still needs to work on his runs and positioning but he adds another element to the attack which we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Happy enough, to have him on board to be honest, not sure about his wages though. But getting him to sign a new contract will be very good for us just to get that clause out, i happen to like him as a player, its all fair and where breaking down his individual attributes. which we can all do and most of us can see that he isnt the complete player and most of us can see that his intelligences on a pitch will hinder his progress, but his goalscoring record is pretty undeniable. Its been better than fanstastic considering the 2 mangers and systems he's played under, especially Roeder where he was on his own for most the season. He doesnt suffer from too many injuries and lets be honest i think its fair to say that even though he doesnt use his pace very effectively, he still scares defenders. I dont understand how he gets this much criticsm when he's scored so many goals for us, the bottom line is that he's scored goals for us, and had already saved us from relegation once. Dont get me wrong, i dont think he's the messiah, but i still think he's a player 90% of the teams in the premiership would love to have. Good comments mate. I am not trying to single him out for criticism and I am grateful for the goals he's scored (last season would have been even worse if not for him, Sib and Milner), I just don't think he is what we need over the coming seasons. Especially on improved wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 He's a player who scores goals for us, has a great attitude, loves the fans, and loves playing for Newcastle. I completely understand why some on here want hid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatTheFunk Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Haven't read the thread, but mark my words: Oba Martins will be back better than ever, and will have a spectacular end to this sorry season. He will single-handedly keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Martins is the best striker we have at this club at the momment. Period!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Martins is the best striker we have at this club at the momment. Period!! The bad news is you may just be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Martins is the best striker we have at this club at the momment. Period!! The bad news is you may just be right. Why is that bad news. The lad scored 17 last season, and if played regularly could have had more this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Martins is the best striker we have at this club at the momment. Period!! The bad news is you may just be right. Why is that bad news. The lad scored 17 last season, and if played regularly could have had more this one. Paul Kitson scored 12 goals in about 30 games for us. Couldn't trap a ball, pass, or much else mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Martins is the best striker we have at this club at the momment. Period!! The bad news is you may just be right. Why is that bad news. The lad scored 17 last season, and if played regularly could have had more this one. Paul Kitson scored 12 goals in about 30 games for us. Couldn't trap a ball, pass, or much else mind. I would rather have Oba running around and making an effort than bloody Michael Owen looking like he would rather be at the Cheltenham Gold Cup. At least Oba makes an effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Oba, for all his faults, makes things happen. He is easily our most dangerous player and i can't wait to see him back in the team. On the contract, i'm happy to see him sign because i think he should be in our long term plans and i'd guess the numbers are either speculation or are exaggerated, i doubt it will be that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Erich von Manstein Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 he kept us up last season, I'm not so sure he can do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I would rather have Oba running around and making an effort than bloody Michael Owen looking like he would rather be at the Cheltenham Gold Cup. At least Oba makes an effort. I've used the "he makes an effort" argument about players in the past, but after this season and Alan Smith, I just can't use it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 he kept us up last season, I'm not so sure he can do it again. For all his faults, I'd say the player that made the difference for us last season was Dyer. He added pace, energy and he could link the midfield with the striker - exactly what we lack at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 People forget that over half of Oba's goals last season came against paper mache teams and cardboard cut-out defences. In the Premier League where it really matterred it was, as Bobyule says, Dyer was the man who really made the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I just hope he keeps Smith out of the team today. Though I think that if he plays, Smith will take either Butt or Bartons role in CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 People forget that over half of Oba's goals last season came against paper mache teams and cardboard cut-out defences. In the Premier League where it really matterred it was, as Bobyule says, Dyer was the man who really made the difference. I agree about Dyer and I said it when he used to get crucified here. But I think Martins pace was instrumental as well. Even if he only scores against the weaker teams in the run in, it could keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 People forget that over half of Oba's goals last season came against paper mache teams and cardboard cut-out defences. In the Premier League where it really matterred it was, as Bobyule says, Dyer was the man who really made the difference. Not true tbh, he only scored 4 of his 17 against shit teams in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Replacing Dyer with Alan Smith was an awful decision, you could see the team struggling for pace and cutting edge coming a mile off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Erich von Manstein Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 People forget that over half of Oba's goals last season came against paper mache teams and cardboard cut-out defences. Fuck it then, we should ignore the fact he scored 19 goals last season for us because we played against 'paper-mache teams'. Idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 People forget that over half of Oba's goals last season came against paper mache teams and cardboard cut-out defences. Fuck it then, we should ignore the fact he scored 19 goals last season for us because we played against 'paper-mache teams'. Idiot Like I said he scored 4 against shit European teams, the rest were against Premiership sides and AZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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