Guest johnson293 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'd take just about anyone right now. We need someone and we need someone fast. ^ This TBH! The team needs some sort of guidance - but still not sure a short-term manager is the answer, as the players will still know theres the air of uncertainty around the club while its still up for sale, and any manager who comes in could be replaced at (pretty much) any time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Want-away Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is lining up a sensational return for former manager Kenny Dalglish. The ex-Scotland and Liverpool striker took charge at St James's Park after Kevin Keegan left the club back in 1997. (Daily Star) Almost makes sense. He's going to get a decent amount of respect from the press & players (fans might be another matter though). And he'd probably be able to work with the whole DoF malarkey we have going on. As a short-term appointment I could see it working. He did that DOF crap at Celtic didn't he? With John Barnes as the manager, around the time that Inver Cally Thistle whacked Celtic in the cup, and we had the best ever back page headline "SUPER CALLY GO BALLISTIC, CELTIC ARE ATROCIOUS!" As I remember Barnes did almost everything (badly) at Celtic whilst Kenny spent his time on the golf course. I seem to remember that there were later rumours that Barnes never (or at least very rarely) asked for advice on the team and ended up running the team in much the same manner that Gullit ran us in that he couldn't really understand why other players weren't as good as he was. Ironically, Dalglish's "5 year plan" for us revolved around us bringing in a lot of youngsters for little money and bringing them through the ranks in much the same way that Ashley wanted/wants to do with us so bringing in Dalglish on a short-term contract to turn things around may work in the long run should he be able to get the team winning again and if Ashley can't find a satisfactory buyer. Yes, but he DID spend big bucks when he could at NUFC - brought in Hamann for 5m(sold for 7m by Gullit), Solano for about 3m I think, Tomasson was about 6m(went on to be a great player for AC Milan), Given too(can't remember the fee)....I am sure he would have done OK if Shearer hadn't got injured at Everton or the club hadn't agreed to sell Ferdinand ; Dalglish was under pressure to agree to the sale because of Sir Les' age and the 6m fee Spurs had agreed to pay...it turned out to be the worst 6m we ever got, because it cost us a whole season of progress. The players apparently liked KD, it was the Press who had it in for him because he was dour with them. The trouble now is that he is getting on a bit & doesn't need the money OR the hassle - however, these are desperate times and desperate times need desperate measures...who knows ? Stranger things have happened.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I personally have a lot of time for Dalglish the manager. I'd have him here at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Is this really a possibility or are the press just throwing names out there as there is no information coming from the club. I just dont see why Dalglish would a) want to come back and b) come back at this time. Had him as having more sense than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Yes, but he DID spend big bucks when he could at NUFC - brought in Hamann for 5m(sold for 7m by Gullit), Solano for about 3m I think, Tomasson was about 6m(went on to be a great player for AC Milan), Given too(can't remember the fee)....I am sure he would have done OK if Shearer hadn't got injured at Everton or the club hadn't agreed to sell Ferdinand ; Dalglish was under pressure to agree to the sale because of Sir Les' age and the 6m fee Spurs had agreed to pay...it turned out to be the worst 6m we ever got, because it cost us a whole season of progress. The players apparently liked KD, it was the Press who had it in for him because he was dour with them. The trouble now is that he is getting on a bit & doesn't need the money OR the hassle - however, these are desperate times and desperate times need desperate measures...who knows ? Stranger things have happened.. Tomasson was 2.5m I think, was a pretty low amount & he was a very highly rated player when we bought him. Hamann may or may not have been bought by Dalglish, I'm certain that there was some talk about him being bought by the board with Dalglish's later OK. Dalglish did start out playing some very nice football, but with the sale of Ferdinand & Shearer's injury he gradually went back to safety first football that was pretty ineffective & crap to watch. That season could have been very different if Shearer hadn't been injured. He was certainly slaughtered by the press who couldn't quite work out why a guy who was with Liverpool for Heysel & Hillsborough might have a problem with the temporary stands at Stevenage. Things went downhill from there. Didn't he call Anal Oliver a fat cunt during a press conference? If he was to take charge again he'd need good a PR person to do his talking, in fact it wouldn't be a bad thing for the club to hire a decent PR person no matter who takes over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Kenny's transfers, in & out... http://nufc.com/2008-09html/transfers-dalglish.html Given was a free transfer, and his most expensive signing was Gary Speed @ £5.5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Couldn't think of many I would want less than Daglish. I'll never forgive him for butchering the original KK side. My worst nightmare seeing him in the home dug out at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 If that fails will we get Gullit in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 If I was able to rewind time (in case things go badly wrong), I'd love to give the job to Ketsbaia and see how that panned out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thinking about it, this guy would make a brilliant manager: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf3cMPCSB5U Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thinking about it, this guy would make a brilliant manager: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf3cMPCSB5U The expression pulled by that kid at the end of the clip makes me want to cover him in napalm and throw into a towering inferno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Just think at how he would solve all our defensive problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The thought of Dalglish back in charge chills my spine. He is the Anti-Keegan. His sides were always set out with fear of the opposition the biggest factor. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The thought of Dalglish back in charge chills my spine. He is the Anti-Keegan. His sides were always set out with fear of the opposition the biggest factor. No thanks. shit scared of Barcelona we were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The thought of Dalglish back in charge chills my spine. He is the Anti-Keegan. His sides were always set out with fear of the opposition the biggest factor. No thanks. shit scared of Barcelona we were The exception that proves the rule unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The thought of Dalglish back in charge chills my spine. He is the Anti-Keegan. His sides were always set out with fear of the opposition the biggest factor. No thanks. shit scared of Barcelona we were Can you please remind me how we did overall that season and how good the rest of our performances were? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The thought of Dalglish back in charge chills my spine. He is the Anti-Keegan. His sides were always set out with fear of the opposition the biggest factor. No thanks. s*** scared of Barcelona we were Can you please remind me how we did overall that season and how good the rest of our performances were? We were exceptional. Won the league didn't we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Something daft like 8 wins from 18 games in 96/97, and in most games he played Les, Al and Tino upfront. Something happened to him in that summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 If we're looking for a short-term option until the club is sold, then we're not going to be spoilt for choice and KD might be a reasonable bet. I wouldn't go for him as a long-term option though. He actually took over from Keegan at a difficult time, I always thought. The team had already peaked and needed rebuilding, but the money was a lot more restricted. Expectations were still high though and I think the pressure got to him and the team, which began to look very inhibited. I don't know how to assess him as a manager, because at Liverpool he inherited a very good backroom staff who just kept the system going, and at Blackburn, Ray Harford did a lot of the work. I also seem to remember that first time round it all ended after a row with the Chief Exec, after which there was a dispute about whether he had quit or had been sacked. Spooky. Still, look on the bright side. Terry Mac could be back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Something daft like 8 wins from 18 games in 96/97, and in most games he played Les, Al and Tino upfront. Something happened to him in that summer He sold Keegan's players and brought in his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The Barcelona game was 97/98 was it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The Barcelona game was 97/98 was it not? Yep, September 1997 - I was at an Oasis Concert at the Arena that night But, yes - it was 'his' team that played that night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Just think at how he would solve all our defensive problems. yep, defensive negative football,sideways passing like in the old Dalglish days at NUFC.....we played some of the most boring negative football I`ve witnessed when that muppet was in charge (when he brought in his own players) Sigh..... he completely destroyed that team when all that was needed was 2 decent centre halves :'( If only Sir Bobby hadn`t turned us down that time for his loyalty to Barca how things might have turned out different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Just think at how he would solve all our defensive problems. yep, defensive negative football,sideways passing like in the old Dalglish days at NUFC.....we played some of the most boring negative football I`ve witnessed when that muppet was in charge (when he brought in his own players) Sigh..... he completely destroyed that team when all that was needed was 2 decent centre halves :'( If only Sir Bobby hadn`t turned us down that time for his loyalty to Barca how things might have turned out different i wonder if he will bring back rush and barnes to play up front again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Just think at how he would solve all our defensive problems. yep, defensive negative football,sideways passing like in the old Dalglish days at NUFC.....we played some of the most boring negative football I`ve witnessed when that muppet was in charge (when he brought in his own players) Sigh..... he completely destroyed that team when all that was needed was 2 decent centre halves :'( If only Sir Bobby hadn`t turned us down that time for his loyalty to Barca how things might have turned out different Aye, I remember when KD took over from KK - actually thought he would be the perfect man for the job - we were sitting there/thereabouts top of the Premiership (I think), and after KK losing it to Fergie at the end of the previous season, we now had a manager who had 'been there - done it' with Liverpool and Blackburn, and someone who wouldn't be phased by Fergies mindgames. But, it just didn't work out! His 'Dads Army' signings (Pearce, Barnes, Rush) didn't help much either! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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