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Guest Sam

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Sorry, but he's an absolute legend. Anyone who says otherwise is just bitter.

 

Nice to see him admit to being wrong about some things aswell, notably selling Stam to Lazio.

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Porridge mouthed tw@

 

Nice. Have him over Keegan any day myself.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he is a cunt though. Complete hypocracy for him to berate Madrid for trying to get Ronaldo when he/Man Utd has done that so many times. Hargreaves from Bayern being the latest case (before Bayern finally agreed to sell him). Same old, same old Fergie, rules and principles that he wants other clubs to adhere to apparently do not apply to Man Utd. Top coach but still a cunt of the highest order.   

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Porridge mouthed tw@

 

Nice. Have him over Keegan any day myself.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he is a c*** though. Complete hypocracy for him to berate Madrid for trying to get Ronaldo when he/Man Utd has done that so many times. Hargreaves from Bayern being the latest case (before Bayern finally agreed to sell him). Same old, same old Fergie, rules and principles that he wants other clubs to adhere to apparently do not apply to Man Utd. Top coach but still a c*** of the highest order.  

 

To right

 

Put simply, if Madrid were to ask FIFA to turn the same spotlight on Fergie it would open up a can of worms big enough for Bob Nudd to empty every river in the land of its pike population. The only question to be asked about Ferguson and tapping-up is where do you begin?

 

Let's stick with the last decade and start with the most publicised example: Jaap Stam detailing in his autobiography the precise methods employed by Fergie in 1998 to tap him up when he was still at PSV Eindhoven.

 

Ferguson wasn't investigated but Stam was shipped out, according to the Dutchman, for spilling the beans.

 

Remember in 2003 when United tried to sign Ronaldinho from Paris St Germain? Here's what their president Francis Graille said: "Manchester have not played the game in line with FIFA regulations.

 

"They have negotiated directly with the player. Even if they have got agreement from the player, they haven't got agreement from his club."

 

In the January of that year Sunderland chairman Bob Murray described Fergie's approaches to David Bellion as "shabby, despicable, disrespectful, arrogant and unprofessional".

 

And the previous summer United were accused of tapping-up Rennes full-back Julien Escude, after the France Under-21 international player claimed Ferguson had spoken to him on his mobile phone.

 

Ask Leeds and Everton about the behind-the-scenes connivance with Rio Ferdinand's and Wayne Rooney's agents before they moved to Old Trafford. Ask Fulham's Mohammed Al Fayed why he raged about Fergie "constantly unsettling my players" as he pursued Luis Saha. Ask Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge why he said in 2006: "We have told Manchester United that they should stop trying to tempt Owen Hargreaves. If they don't, then we will have to turn to FIFA."

 

But best of all, ask PSV Eindhoven's chairman Harry van Raaij about Fergie's behaviour in courting Ruud van Nistelrooy in 2000. Specifically his quote "he has crossed the line of decency".

 

Then ask him why, in 2004, when Arjen Robben was given the red-carpet treatment at United's training ground while still a PSV player, van Raaij flew into a rage and said: "It is Ferguson's way of doing business. A leopard never changes his spots."

 

I could go on but you get the picture. Before Ferguson conjures up images of the Madrid dictator Franco he should look hard into his mirror. For him to question the morals of another club when it comes exerting psychological pressure on a player he's set his sights on, is laughable.

 

To think a FIFA inquiry into deals which haven't gone strictly by the book would put another club in a worse light than his own, is dangerously deluded.

 

It must be down to the ease with which he has run rings around the petrified English authorities (as currently exemplified by the FA appealing against themselves for bizarrely letting Fergie and his assistant Carlos Queiroz off an improper conduct charge after attacking referee Martin Atkinson and his boss Keith Hackett).

 

Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the major reasons for his phenomenal success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players.

 

Deals which, for every club in the world, often mean stretching the rule-book to the limits.

 

Hypocrisy, eh? Bloody hell.

 

"Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the reasons for his success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players"

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Martin Lol

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Porridge mouthed tw@

 

Nice. Have him over Keegan any day myself.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he is a c*** though. Complete hypocracy for him to berate Madrid for trying to get Ronaldo when he/Man Utd has done that so many times. Hargreaves from Bayern being the latest case (before Bayern finally agreed to sell him). Same old, same old Fergie, rules and principles that he wants other clubs to adhere to apparently do not apply to Man Utd. Top coach but still a c*** of the highest order.   

 

To right

 

Put simply, if Madrid were to ask FIFA to turn the same spotlight on Fergie it would open up a can of worms big enough for Bob Nudd to empty every river in the land of its pike population. The only question to be asked about Ferguson and tapping-up is where do you begin?

 

Let's stick with the last decade and start with the most publicised example: Jaap Stam detailing in his autobiography the precise methods employed by Fergie in 1998 to tap him up when he was still at PSV Eindhoven.

 

Ferguson wasn't investigated but Stam was shipped out, according to the Dutchman, for spilling the beans.

 

Remember in 2003 when United tried to sign Ronaldinho from Paris St Germain? Here's what their president Francis Graille said: "Manchester have not played the game in line with FIFA regulations.

 

"They have negotiated directly with the player. Even if they have got agreement from the player, they haven't got agreement from his club."

 

In the January of that year Sunderland chairman Bob Murray described Fergie's approaches to David Bellion as "shabby, despicable, disrespectful, arrogant and unprofessional".

 

And the previous summer United were accused of tapping-up Rennes full-back Julien Escude, after the France Under-21 international player claimed Ferguson had spoken to him on his mobile phone.

 

Ask Leeds and Everton about the behind-the-scenes connivance with Rio Ferdinand's and Wayne Rooney's agents before they moved to Old Trafford. Ask Fulham's Mohammed Al Fayed why he raged about Fergie "constantly unsettling my players" as he pursued Luis Saha. Ask Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge why he said in 2006: "We have told Manchester United that they should stop trying to tempt Owen Hargreaves. If they don't, then we will have to turn to FIFA."

 

But best of all, ask PSV Eindhoven's chairman Harry van Raaij about Fergie's behaviour in courting Ruud van Nistelrooy in 2000. Specifically his quote "he has crossed the line of decency".

 

Then ask him why, in 2004, when Arjen Robben was given the red-carpet treatment at United's training ground while still a PSV player, van Raaij flew into a rage and said: "It is Ferguson's way of doing business. A leopard never changes his spots."

 

I could go on but you get the picture. Before Ferguson conjures up images of the Madrid dictator Franco he should look hard into his mirror. For him to question the morals of another club when it comes exerting psychological pressure on a player he's set his sights on, is laughable.

 

To think a FIFA inquiry into deals which haven't gone strictly by the book would put another club in a worse light than his own, is dangerously deluded.

 

It must be down to the ease with which he has run rings around the petrified English authorities (as currently exemplified by the FA appealing against themselves for bizarrely letting Fergie and his assistant Carlos Queiroz off an improper conduct charge after attacking referee Martin Atkinson and his boss Keith Hackett).

 

Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the major reasons for his phenomenal success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players.

 

Deals which, for every club in the world, often mean stretching the rule-book to the limits.

 

Hypocrisy, eh? Bloody hell.

 

"Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the reasons for his success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players"

 

You could add to that the Man Utd shirt with Carrick's name on it that Neville presented to him in Germany during the World Cup, shipped over specially by Ferguson.  A truly great manager, yes, but he's no angel.  Fergie knows every dirty trick in the book and will use every one to get what he wants.

 

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He'll do whatever it takes to win, and that includes accusing other clubs of things where he knows he's been guilty himself.

 

I wouldn't say I like him, because he seems a bit scary. But I admire him. And compared with other managers, his comments on football can be quite interesting and intelligent.

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Respect for a cheat? some of you have gone mad or are really Man U supporters.

 

He's scum and typifies all that is wrong with football today!

 

He can't accept defeat, there is always someone else to blame and never his own collection of wankers who are playing for him.

 

Also having Ref's in your back pocket helps this illusion of greatness.  How many times they get crucial decisions their way is shocking! And I wonder how many points that totals to over the season?

 

I hate everything about Man U! The players the Manager and the jump on board tosser fans.

 

SCUM SCUM SCUM    Spit

 

 

 

 

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madras

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Porridge mouthed tw@

 

Nice. Have him over Keegan any day myself.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he is a c*** though. Complete hypocracy for him to berate Madrid for trying to get Ronaldo when he/Man Utd has done that so many times. Hargreaves from Bayern being the latest case (before Bayern finally agreed to sell him). Same old, same old Fergie, rules and principles that he wants other clubs to adhere to apparently do not apply to Man Utd. Top coach but still a c*** of the highest order.  

 

To right

 

Put simply, if Madrid were to ask FIFA to turn the same spotlight on Fergie it would open up a can of worms big enough for Bob Nudd to empty every river in the land of its pike population. The only question to be asked about Ferguson and tapping-up is where do you begin?

 

Let's stick with the last decade and start with the most publicised example: Jaap Stam detailing in his autobiography the precise methods employed by Fergie in 1998 to tap him up when he was still at PSV Eindhoven.

 

Ferguson wasn't investigated but Stam was shipped out, according to the Dutchman, for spilling the beans.

 

Remember in 2003 when United tried to sign Ronaldinho from Paris St Germain? Here's what their president Francis Graille said: "Manchester have not played the game in line with FIFA regulations.

 

"They have negotiated directly with the player. Even if they have got agreement from the player, they haven't got agreement from his club."

 

In the January of that year Sunderland chairman Bob Murray described Fergie's approaches to David Bellion as "shabby, despicable, disrespectful, arrogant and unprofessional".

 

And the previous summer United were accused of tapping-up Rennes full-back Julien Escude, after the France Under-21 international player claimed Ferguson had spoken to him on his mobile phone.

 

Ask Leeds and Everton about the behind-the-scenes connivance with Rio Ferdinand's and Wayne Rooney's agents before they moved to Old Trafford. Ask Fulham's Mohammed Al Fayed why he raged about Fergie "constantly unsettling my players" as he pursued Luis Saha. Ask Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge why he said in 2006: "We have told Manchester United that they should stop trying to tempt Owen Hargreaves. If they don't, then we will have to turn to FIFA."

 

But best of all, ask PSV Eindhoven's chairman Harry van Raaij about Fergie's behaviour in courting Ruud van Nistelrooy in 2000. Specifically his quote "he has crossed the line of decency".

 

Then ask him why, in 2004, when Arjen Robben was given the red-carpet treatment at United's training ground while still a PSV player, van Raaij flew into a rage and said: "It is Ferguson's way of doing business. A leopard never changes his spots."

 

I could go on but you get the picture. Before Ferguson conjures up images of the Madrid dictator Franco he should look hard into his mirror. For him to question the morals of another club when it comes exerting psychological pressure on a player he's set his sights on, is laughable.

 

To think a FIFA inquiry into deals which haven't gone strictly by the book would put another club in a worse light than his own, is dangerously deluded.

 

It must be down to the ease with which he has run rings around the petrified English authorities (as currently exemplified by the FA appealing against themselves for bizarrely letting Fergie and his assistant Carlos Queiroz off an improper conduct charge after attacking referee Martin Atkinson and his boss Keith Hackett).

 

Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the major reasons for his phenomenal success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players.

 

Deals which, for every club in the world, often mean stretching the rule-book to the limits.

 

Hypocrisy, eh? Bloody hell.

 

"Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the reasons for his success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players"

 

You could add to that the Man Utd shirt with Carrick's name on it that Neville presented to him in Germany during the World Cup, shipped over specially by Ferguson.  A truly great manager, yes, but he's no angel.  Fergie knows every dirty trick in the book and will use every one to get what he wants.

 

add mexes to that list,and hofland
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Respect for a cheat? some of you have gone mad or are really Man U supporters.

 

He's scum and typifies all that is wrong with football today!

 

He can't accept defeat, there is always someone else to blame and never his own collection of wankers who are playing for him.

 

Also having Ref's in your back pocket helps this illusion of greatness.  How many times they get crucial decisions their way is shocking! And I wonder how many points that totals to over the season?

 

I hate everything about Man U! The players the Manager and the jump on board tosser fans.

 

SCUM SCUM SCUM     Spit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:clap:  :clap:  :clap:

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Sorry, but he's an absolute legend. Anyone who says otherwise is just bitter.

 

Nice to see him admit to being wrong about some things aswell, notably selling Stam to Lazio.

 

Likewise, and it took them/United time to rebuild the heart of their defence in the wake of his departure, which at the time was a reactionary/hot-headed decision on the part of the manager. IMO he learned from that, hence he handled the Rooney/Ronaldo World Cup flare-up differently.

 

Back to replacing Stam. Nearly 30m - ie. for Ferdinand - and the appointment, and of course the eventual re-appointment of Carlos Quieroz - ie. a noted coaching genius, as a defensive coach - turned out to be the requisites needed to the fill the void created by Stam's departure.

 

Roy Keane was spot-on in his assessment that the said player was treated like a piece of meat, so it's good to see the gaffer admit his error, although begrudgingly.

 

I wonder if one particular manager will eventually do likewise with respect to a certain Craig Bellamy, another player who within the team dynamic was just as influential as Stam was to United.

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madras

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He's a winner, I respect that.  Scum.. :lol:

 

Not bitter, are we?  I agree about his hyprocracy, but then everyone is guilty of it.  Everyone.

some more than others.....some to the point of being brazen .
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