Turnbull2000 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 He's looking like the new Paul Robinson. Will be in the lower leagues at best in a few years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Most players who are going to make it are cutting the mustard at Nile's age. Yes people point to Carroll but his phenomenal progress was very much te exception rather than the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. So if Shol'as not fit, Best is out for the rest of the season, we sold Carroll and Kuqi can last about 20 mins.. who starts instead of Nile ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. So if Shol'as not fit, Best is out for the rest of the season, we sold Carroll and Kuqi can last about 20 mins.. who starts instead of Nile ? Who says Kuqi can only last 20 minutes? Start with Kuqi and then replace him with Ranger (as with hindsight we should have done today). If half our strikers are injured I'd rather we had a 5 man midfield (when they return from suspension) than start Ranger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. So if Shol'as not fit, Best is out for the rest of the season, we sold Carroll and Kuqi can last about 20 mins.. who starts instead of Nile ? Phil Airey, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. So if Shol'as not fit, Best is out for the rest of the season, we sold Carroll and Kuqi can last about 20 mins.. who starts instead of Nile ? Phil Airey, of course. And if he struggles with Guthrie and Colo as the CMs behind him that day, don't let him near the first team again for one calendar year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Because football demands a high level of positional intelligence, and not too many 19 or 20 year olds have that. There are sports which require far more stamina than football in which athletes at that age thrive. Name them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. So if Shol'as not fit, Best is out for the rest of the season, we sold Carroll and Kuqi can last about 20 mins.. who starts instead of Nile ? Phil Airey, of course. And if he struggles with Guthrie and Colo as the CMs behind him that day, don't let him near the first team again for one calendar year. Aye, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Of course he hadn't the best support from our midfield. But he failed in his attempt of keeping the ball. He lost the ball almost every time. But he's young. He should learn his trade in another league. Kuqi should start our next match.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Mick: He looked knackered to me second half, but for the sake of argument - Basketball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Tennis is another one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Most players who are going to make it are cutting the mustard at Nile's age. Yes people point to Carroll but his phenomenal progress was very much te exception rather than the rule. At this level, Peter Beardsley and Les Ferdinand weren't cutting the mustard as you put it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Mick: He looked knackered to me second half, but for the sake of argument - Basketball Yet from what I've read they peak at 27 or 28, I'm not saying it's all to do with Stamin but it will have a lot to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Stamina eh? now would you say more to do with physical fitness or mental attitude? Had we been winning and he had scored I think he would have kept going without any issues, but when things are not going your way, there is a lack of service its easy to start to get frustrated and become negative and give up. I thik that more what happened with Nile rather than him being physically shattered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Most players who are going to make it are cutting the mustard at Nile's age. Yes people point to Carroll but his phenomenal progress was very much te exception rather than the rule. At this level, Peter Beardsley and Les Ferdinand weren't cutting the mustard as you put it. Mick man, you know full well that the vast majority of top players showed quality at the age of 20. Perhaps not consistency, but real glimpses of their ability. Ranger hasn't I'm afraid. A couple of goals last year in a Championship winning side and nothing this season of note bar a few headless chicken appearances which to be fair, have ocassionally unsettled defences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Mick man, you know full well that the vast majority of top players showed quality at the age of 20. Perhaps not consistency, but real glimpses of their ability. Ranger hasn't I'm afraid. A couple of goals last year in a Championship winning side and nothing this season of note bar a few headless chicken appearances which to be fair, have ocassionally unsettled defences. Did Ranger not show something against Liverpool and Arsenal? Did he not show something when he scored againt a Chelsea team which included John Terry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I'm with Mick. It's far too early to write the lad off (after his first pl start). Loan him out next year for def. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Most players who are going to make it are cutting the mustard at Nile's age. Yes people point to Carroll but his phenomenal progress was very much te exception rather than the rule. At this level, Peter Beardsley and Les Ferdinand weren't cutting the mustard as you put it. Mick man, you know full well that the vast majority of top players showed quality at the age of 20. Perhaps not consistency, but real glimpses of their ability. Ranger hasn't I'm afraid. A couple of goals last year in a Championship winning side and nothing this season of note bar a few headless chicken appearances which to be fair, have ocassionally unsettled defences. Ian Wright turned professional 3 months short of his 22nd birthday so Ranger is still a pup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Mick man, you know full well that the vast majority of top players showed quality at the age of 20. Perhaps not consistency, but real glimpses of their ability. Ranger hasn't I'm afraid. A couple of goals last year in a Championship winning side and nothing this season of note bar a few headless chicken appearances which to be fair, have ocassionally unsettled defences. Did Ranger not show something against Liverpool and Arsenal? Did he not show something when he scored againt a Chelsea team which included John Terry? Him and Carroll against Liverpool were unplayable. Had a poor second half today but I can't help but think the fact lovenkrands is largely anonymous that it doesn't help matter either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Impact sub at the moment, but not writing him off by any stretch yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 He was severely out-muscled today and I hope he learned something from that. He had a reasonable first-half but struggled badly in the second. It's up to him really in his reaction to this. If he sticks at it and realises that against some centre-backs it's not enough to fall over and implore the referee to protect him then that's part of his education. Writing him off is a nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Nile ranger sh11111t like a turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 For the rest of the season he should be used as an impact sub and definitely not a starter. He must go out on loan next season. So if Shol'as not fit, Best is out for the rest of the season, we sold Carroll and Kuqi can last about 20 mins.. who starts instead of Nile ? Who says Kuqi can only last 20 minutes? Start with Kuqi and then replace him with Ranger (as with hindsight we should have done today). If half our strikers are injured I'd rather we had a 5 man midfield (when they return from suspension) than start Ranger. This for me. I'm not sure what his fitness levels are like, but with him being at a league club earlier in the season I imagine he's not that bad. Give him a half/60 minutes and replace him with Ranger. If he can't last that then fuck knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Needs a loan move with regular matching desperately, his positioning and vision can't improve without playing matches and we can't afford to let him learn playing for us. Soggy-face said something about Walker that rings true with Ranger as well (I paraphrase) “Kyle will be back here for sure, he’s still learning and got miles to learn but he is a talent, a real prospect but we loaned him out so he can learn somewhere else and make any beginner mistakes for someone else.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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