Guest Heneage Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Not a chance, most of our fans dont think with their head, and if the crowds outside SJP the other night proved anything it is that given power a lot of those would potentially destroy us. IT would be the same with nigh any club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon Argy Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 What a shit and stupid idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Not a chance, most of our fans dont think with their head, and if the crowds outside SJP the other night proved anything it is that given power a lot of those would potentially destroy us. IT would be the same with nigh any club. [/quote I think people are confusing ownership, with management, fans could own the club, but elect a Chairman... every 4 years or so... then the forum style bickering wouldnt get in the way. Confusing ownership, with management... let me think where ive seen that before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Im not confusing the two at all, I said they had power. Which they would do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 it seems like some people assume fan ownership means 10,000 fans turning up having a riot with each other. er no one said the club was going to be ran by Harry Norway. look at HTT's post for his ideas of what fan ownership constitues - ie a barca type system. sadly it seems neither possible or, in this age of megarich owners, pragmatic, to take this approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 PS those that vote no, any reason/s? I gave my reasons in the other thread you raised suggesting the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 it seems like some people assume fan ownership means 10,000 fans turning up having a riot with each other. er no one said the club was going to be ran by Harry Norway. look at HTT's post for his ideas of what fan ownership constitues - ie a barca type system. sadly it seems neither possible or, in this age of megarich owners, pragmatic, to take this approach. Ok even if you did, imagine you put a man in some billionaire and he invests say £200m in us, he has the horrible risk of being let go in a few years time becaues fans just dont like him, or he makes a bad decision. Its too much power for too many uneducated in the business of Football. Similarly if you went and said "Ok You have been chosen for your investment we will reconsider your position in 5-7 years time, for 5-7 years he could be a total bell end and invest nowt, then come the protests and we are back to square one, fans are called fans for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 PS those that vote no, any reason/s? No I see nothing wrong with the current set up apart from those living in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 PS those that vote no, any reason/s? I think it's an overly romanticized idea that works for Barca out of sheer inertia but would fail for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Like communism. Sounds good in theory but is almost unworkable in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 PS those that vote no, any reason/s? Among other reasons, because we'd not be able to compete financially with the big boys any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 There is one good point made on the Liverpool share dealings site (http://www.shareliverpoolfc.co.uk if you've not seen it before). Many people have asked about debts and how we will make money if the fans own the club. The fact is the club gets us the fans pay so surely it makes sense that we own the club outright since we're paying for all the debts and transfers anyway ? http://www.shareliverpoolfc.co.uk/index.php/faqs this might answer a lot of the problems people are putting forward. Sounds very good to me the more I read about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 PS those that vote no, any reason/s? Among other reasons, because we'd not be able to compete financially with the big boys any more. Why ? Not as if any of our past 2 chairman have put their hands in their pockets to help us compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Yes. It will happen sooner or later one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Nipple Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 What a s*** and stupid idea. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Would it mean that more money was available to allow us to compete with other clubs? - No Would it mean that more sensible decisions were made, on footballing and other matters? - No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Would it mean that more money was available to allow us to compete with other clubs? - No Would it mean that more sensible decisions were made, on footballing and other matters? - No Why is that fella? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chriswhite32 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hi, don't often post but found this new site: http://www.savenewcastle.com/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 No. It could happen, but I doubt a football club could exist as a democracy, beyond five-a-side level anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 After reading that Duncan Bannatyne (sp?) could not get cash off the bank to expand his businesses & he has a personal wealth of £200 million, I feel at this moment in time it is not right for me to launch a takeover of Newcastle United Football Club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Would it mean that more money was available to allow us to compete with other clubs? - No Would it mean that more sensible decisions were made, on footballing and other matters? - No Why is that fella? Corporate finance, top level professional sport, marketing - professionals don't always get things right, but you'd back them to do so more often than inexperienced amateurs. Also, the way you approach decisions when you're on the inside and your job and livelihood depends on it is a bit different from how you see things from the luxury of an outside position. The club can't be run by a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks. To turn it round, I'd be interested to know why people think we'd generate more income and produce better decisions with a fans' collective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hi, don't often post but found this new site: http://www.savenewcastle.com/index.html 3 million shares at 200 pounds in a month. Am i missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hi, don't often post but found this new site: http://www.savenewcastle.com/index.html 3 million shares at 200 pounds in a month. Am i missing something? And when they sell the club they give all of the money to charity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Would it mean that more money was available to allow us to compete with other clubs? - No Would it mean that more sensible decisions were made, on footballing and other matters? - No Why is that fella? Corporate finance, top level professional sport, marketing - professionals don't always get things right, but you'd back them to do so more often than inexperienced amateurs. Also, the way you approach decisions when you're on the inside and your job and livelihood depends on it is a bit different from how you see things from the luxury of an outside position. The club can't be run by a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks. To turn it round, I'd be interested to know why people think we'd generate more income and produce better decisions with a fans' collective. The amaeturs own the club Bobby they don't run it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Would be disastrous for the club. We'd be relegated within 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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