Umer Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think Sunderland are in a bit of trouble actually. Bolton f*** me right off. Every week I hope for them to collapse but they have won 3 out of their last 4 or something equally annoying. Yeah was saying this the other day. Think Sunderland, Blackburn and west ham are in real trouble this season. They are all playing really poorly, and west ham a bit like us have an uncertain future with the owners wanting out (and saying they are not going to spend). Guess you can add us to that list as well, but we keep showing flashes of a half decent team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 West Ham completely outclassed us, which is more worrying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 West Ham completely outclassed us, which is more worrying And we outclassed Aston Villa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 West Ham completely outclassed us, which is more worrying And we outclassed Aston Villa... we could and probably should have been 2-0 down at HT. We defended very well from the front in the second half like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 West Ham completely outclassed us, which is more worrying And we outclassed Aston Villa... we could and probably should have been 2-0 down at HT. We defended very well from the front in the second half like As for West Ham, we played them at their highest (new manager syndrome), when we were at our lowest (no manager, first away game with Hughton "in charge"). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 we should have been at our highest against Fulham and Wigan, and look what happened there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 we should have been at our highest against Fulham and Wigan, and look what happened there That's the thing though. Everyone's been like that. Everton are the highest placed team of the pack, yet they've failed to win in 6 of their 7 home games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I agree with both sides of the argument here really. I think we've got a quality collection of players in our squad, and in any other season we'd be in with the best chance that we've had of automatic European qualification since SBR. But we've got the turmoil off the field and the horrendously shit manager turning the cogs, meaning we simply won't be anywhere near it this year, unless drastic changes occur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Couldn't give a fuck about Europe. Our only aim this season has to be staying up. We've yet to play anyone particularly good aside from Villa at home yet our home record is gashtastic and the bigger teams are generally a lot harder to beat in the second half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah on paper we are.. we've got some good players but we're no way near being a good team. Our midfield has no understanding and absolutely no depth. One injury throws us out of balance. Our midfield is quite poor I'd admit. Losing Gutierrez for 6 weeks and Barton to injury and suspension hasn't helped though. Guthrie & Butt isn't great, but it's still no better or worse than Cattermole & Brown at Wigan, Bowyer & Parker at West Ham, McCann & Nolan at Bolton, Whitehead & Reid at Sunderland, Andrews & Mokoena at Blackburn, etc. Well to be honest I think that any of the 5 teams you've named could possibly go down. You can say that injuries haven't helped us, but after that all we've got to come back is Barton who IS a step up, but not much of one.. and if you're going by that you could say that West Ham are missing Dyer etc. I just don't see any chance of Europe this season. It's impossible to tell if we'll go down and I don't think we will - more out of habit than anything, heh - but we've already screwed up 2 recent chances of getting a bit of space between us and the bottom feeders - Fulham and Wigan. Teams that go down lose these kind of matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Am I seeing things, or are Del Piero and a few other Juve players actually wearing scarves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Am I seeing things, or are Del Piero and a few other Juve players actually wearing scarves? Wearing turtle necks under their tops, however that thought did go through my mind. I can just imagine the young wanabees turning up on a sunday with their scarves packed in their bootbags, as if it's the new craze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 we should have been at our highest against Fulham and Wigan, and look what happened there Cacapa and Enrique happened there. Not outclassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Anyone watch our game last night? Bloody awful. Sick of seeing the most unbalanced midfield in world football trot out and be about as much use as a chocolate teapot every week while our £17m manager just sits there like an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 £17m manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 £17m manager? I think that's how much he's paid on his new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 £17m manager? I think that's how much he's paid on his new contract. Noooooooooo. Really ? Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Especially when King Kinnear's only on a meagre £50k a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yep, £17m over 5-years...so just over £65k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yep, £17m over 5-years...so just over £65k a week. Fuck me, no longer it took a while for Everton to agree to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 we should have been at our highest against Fulham and Wigan, and look what happened there Cacapa and Enrique happened there. Not outclassed. didn't say we were but we were absolutely shit going forward, got no shots on target till Shola's goal and only one after it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Our "performance" last night was a disgrace to the Premier League quite frankly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Our "performance" last night was a disgrace to the Premier League quite frankly. It was, i changed the channel and started watching the championship thanks to you guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Just seen that Wolves are 12 points clear of 3rd place. Already looking good for a return to the Premiership. Norwich only 4 points off the relegation zone too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Just seen that Wolves are 12 points clear of 3rd place. Already looking good for a return to the Premiership. Norwich only 4 points off the relegation zone too Wolves have scored a crazy amount of goals this season. Look like a good team to watch for the neutral. Absolute contrast to Birmingham in second place who constantly seem to be grinding out victories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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