David Icke - Son of God Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The club has made a series of blunders with Owen. We shouldn't have bought him in the first place when he'd made it publicly clear he didn't want to come except on loan. He shouldn't have been made Captain when he wasn't committed long-term to the club. He should have been sold and replaced at the start of the season when he didn't sign a new deal. However, there's nothing we can do about that now. We just have to wait to see whether he gets what he considers a better offer at the end of the season. I very much doubt whether he'd get more money. He may get an offer from the likes of Villa or Man City, but I think they're both after Bellamy. We may well end up with him again, but I'd much rather have players who see us as a good opportunity, rather than as a club that they have to settle for. Bollocks. Owen is a class player and we were right in doing everything in our power to get him. The bloke has been a stand up professional who, despite his supposed lack of commitment, has given 110% in everything he has did for Newcastle United. We'll not see someone of his type at this for a long, long time if we keep going on the way we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Didn't Liverpool sell him because they felt he was trying to run his contract out? Not 100% sure of that but Liverpool didn't want another Macca situation on there hands were they ended up getting nothing. thats what Benitez said http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3567702.stm Cheers, saved me looking for it. aye, he clearly says they didn't want another McManaman situation, although there is no suggestion that Owen was going to leave. Note that it was the managers decision, not Owens, or a DOF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 To me it just seems like he's decided that waiting to see what state the club is in is the best option. Can't say I blame him. More likely he's waiting to see what wages he can get out of a club in the North West, but who? Not Everton because their ceiling is something like 50k a week, Liverpool aren't interested, Man U not interested, Wigan can't afford his wages, surely to God he wouldn't go to Bolton or Blackburn, Man City seem to be his only option, but if and when Hughes is sacked they'll bring in a foreign manager and they aren't interested in his type of player either. So he might stay? Honestly I can't see anyone else wanting him, Spurs maybe? Villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 He said it isnt about the money and will accept a cut in wages, so i wouldnt rule out Everton. I think he is destined for Villa if he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Man U not interested I think that could be where he ends up as I think them signing Tevez is very unlikely & Owen for a free would be nice deal for Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 To me it just seems like he's decided that waiting to see what state the club is in is the best option. Can't say I blame him. More likely he's waiting to see what wages he can get out of a club in the North West, but who? Not Everton because their ceiling is something like 50k a week, Liverpool aren't interested, Man U not interested, Wigan can't afford his wages, surely to God he wouldn't go to Bolton or Blackburn, Man City seem to be his only option, but if and when Hughes is sacked they'll bring in a foreign manager and they aren't interested in his type of player either. So he might stay? Honestly I can't see anyone else wanting him, Spurs maybe? Villa? I don't think there is any doubt that we'll be the only club offering him first team football and the most financially rewarding contract, but i've no doubt he's completely fed up of the situation behind the scenes and would probably like to play for a team which isn't constantly battling relegation. Will he stay? Who knows. But I think a lot of it depends on the transfer window in January, where we finish and the other offers on the table. Now is the time to show ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Didn't Liverpool sell him because they felt he was trying to run his contract out? Not 100% sure of that but Liverpool didn't want another Macca situation on there hands were they ended up getting nothing. thats what Benitez said http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3567702.stm Cheers, saved me looking for it. aye, he clearly says they didn't want another McManaman situation, although there is no suggestion that Owen was going to leave. Note that it was the managers decision, not Owens, or a DOF They must of felt there was a chance he was going to leave otherwise they wouldn't have sold him for £8 million. The article says it was the clubs decision btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Struggling to see what people are up in arms about tbh. He's doing nothing wrong and if I were him, I'd be making a decision in May -certainly not December or January. I think the vibes are quite good actually and if they're both prepared to sit down and haggle it out then there should be an agreement. If, on the other hand, he walks away then we've got to accept it. If he's not interested in being here then I don't particularly want him to sign. Seems like he's jus letting a few people know he won't be rushed into signing the first thing that's put in front of him. Nothing wrong with what he's come out with today at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 All he wants is to wait and see where we finish this season and how stable the club will be ownership wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I can't blame him, at least that means he's staying untill the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Didn't Liverpool sell him because they felt he was trying to run his contract out? Not 100% sure of that but Liverpool didn't want another Macca situation on there hands were they ended up getting nothing. thats what Benitez said http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3567702.stm Cheers, saved me looking for it. aye, he clearly says they didn't want another McManaman situation, although there is no suggestion that Owen was going to leave. Note that it was the managers decision, not Owens, or a DOF They must of felt there was a chance he was going to leave otherwise they wouldn't have sold him for £8 million. The article says it was the clubs decision btw. Somehow I don't think people would tell Benitez what to do, but I expect you know better you might even think they have a closet DOF they aren't telling us about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The best thing the club could do now is respect his decision and give him the time he wants without putting any pressure on him, while getting a back up plan ready in case he does leave. Not go down the road of questioning his loyalty or demanding he commits to the club like we've done in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I still don't get why people automatically assume this means he'll leave by the way. He could easily have said something like, "It's a good offer, but I'm going to look to pursue my career elsewhere and talk to other clubs in January". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The best thing the club could do now is respect his decision and give him the time he wants without putting any pressure on him, while getting a back up plan ready in case he does leave. Not go down the road of questioning his loyalty or demanding he commits to the club like we've done in the past. I'd say the fans should take that bit in bold more importantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I still don't get why people automatically assume this means he'll leave by the way. He could easily have said something like, "It's a good offer, but I'm going to look to pursue my career elsewhere and talk to other clubs in January". That's exactly how his comments today have been interpreted by some on here already though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I still don't get why people automatically assume this means he'll leave by the way. He could easily have said something like, "It's a good offer, but I'm going to look to pursue my career elsewhere and talk to other clubs in January". That's exactly how his comments today have been interpreted by some on here already though... That's what I mean. He's said nowt of the sort. If he wanted to do that, he'd have just said that. There's nothing we could have done about it because it's well within his rights to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I still don't get why people automatically assume this means he'll leave by the way. He could easily have said something like, "It's a good offer, but I'm going to look to pursue my career elsewhere and talk to other clubs in January". That's exactly how his comments today have been interpreted by some on here already though... That's what I mean. He's said nowt of the sort. If he wanted to do that, he'd have just said that. There's nothing we could have done about it because it's well within his rights to do so. The best thing the club could do now is respect his decision and give him the time he wants without putting any pressure on him, while getting a back up plan ready in case he does leave. Not go down the road of questioning his loyalty or demanding he commits to the club like we've done in the past. Agree 100% on both points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Praying NE5 puts it in his sig for life. On a serious note, agreed with both fellas on this one, he's got a huge decision to make, and the club need to show its ready to put itself back where it was the 1st time he signed on, that position being what Villa are doing now. We'll have to finish 3 places lower than out current position to be where we were when he first signed, we'd just finished 14th. I was more on about the seasons beforehand, the seasons where we were finishing UEFA spots with no bother, the 14th was then seen as a blip rather than the norm its become, you could say almost Tottenham like now, without the trophy of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 aslong as he scores the goals to keep us up i have no problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If people want him to stay next time he scores start chanting his name & show him some love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If people want him to stay next time he scores start chanting his name & show him some love. :clap: :clap: :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If people want him to stay next time he scores start chanting his name & show him some love. This is so the right thing to do, but at the moment couldnt bring myself to write it or agree with it Boo the disloyal twirp!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It's a good point mind. Throughout his career, he's never been "loved" as the main man, even when he has been the main man. At Liverpool, the fans always loved Fowler more, at Real Madrid, obviously the likes of Raul were more loved, with England, it's always been about Shearer, Beckham & Rooney in his time, and here, Shearer & Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I am in the camp that this is Owen leaving but he does not have the bottle to go in front of us for 90 minutes us knowing that. He will disappear in the summer somewhere. He has a hell of lot more confidence in his fitness than I do. He is taking one hell of a gamble that one of his old injuries does not take him out the game for a while last game of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Well I am happy that he has committed to the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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