The College Dropout Posted Monday at 09:16 Share Posted Monday at 09:16 Winning EL won't be transformational for Spurs. The Spurs "project" is not about winning trophies. It's not something they will consistently do. It's not important to Levy and the club embodies it. They only giving Europa a good shot because of CL qualification. Man U managers need to win trophies. Which is why they have won 3 different types, some of them multiple times, since Ferguson left. It's transformational for us because our "project" does require winning trophies. And we've only been trying to win trophies for the last 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Monday at 09:16 Share Posted Monday at 09:16 Hoping these clowns win their next two matches. I am ready for disappointment. Spurs winning the Europa is clearly better for us. Ange is shot and players will actively avoid spurs in the summer even with CL. If they win they might be daft enough to keep Ange for another season too. Man Utd with CL could manage a half decent rebuild, without it and with a manager who has lost the plot, losing the Europa probably leaves them drifting for another year. Amorim is going to walk away at some point. It’s not about financials with them, they’ll still throw money around most clubs can only dream of, it’s about who would say yes to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Monday at 09:24 Share Posted Monday at 09:24 12 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Given Ratcliffe’s pleading of poverty, onerous legacy contracts and £30m drop off in league position merit money this season, plus adidas being able to pay them less sponsorship money for failing to make the CL I’m all for seeing these arrogant dickheads brought down a peg or two and brought out of their media fluffing bubble into cold hard reality. Plus @leffe186 isn’t anywhere near the despicable wind up merchant as@Froggy is! Last season they made £37m in merit payments from U.K. and International. This season 16th would net them £14m and 17th £11.3m. By contrast we got £39.4m and could go up to either £53.5m for 2nd. No CL would see them drop the c.€50m they’ve earned in the EL for reaching the final with no European revenue coming in. That’s another chunky drop off. Then reduced payments from adidas - £10m a season deductible for not being in the CL. Brexit Jim will have to find a lot of dinner ladies and stewards to sack to make up that shortfall. Don't forget the 25% wage deduction for the players for no CL qualification, which is currently around £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Monday at 09:26 Share Posted Monday at 09:26 8 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Hoping these clowns win their next two matches. I am ready for disappointment. Sorry mate, but there is absolutely zero chance we take points off Chelsea. The final is five days after the game. Personally think you've already got CL qualification wrapped up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Monday at 09:32 Share Posted Monday at 09:32 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: Don't forget the 25% wage deduction for the players for no CL qualification, which is currently around £40m. So that just about offsets the adidas and merit money parts. Just the £45m loss of Europe money to save now. Presuming that’s Mainoo or Garnacho sold to cover the balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Monday at 09:33 Share Posted Monday at 09:33 Just now, Nucasol said: So that just about offsets the adidas and merit money parts. Just the £45m loss of Europe money to save now. Presuming that’s Mainoo or Garnacho sold to cover the balance. Rashford hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 11:00 Share Posted Monday at 11:00 Haven’t seen anything of their game against Palace, but just looking at the raw stats, they got absolutely annihilated. Appreciate the significant external factors at play, and the fact that the lineup in the final will bear little resemblance to the one put out yesterday, but feels to me like Man Utd would have to be really, really poor to get turned over by them at this moment in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted Wednesday at 16:55 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:55 Three back-to-back-to-back season-ending injuries in the same - critical - position. This season is bonkers. Man U are blessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Wednesday at 17:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:06 10 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Three back-to-back-to-back season-ending injuries in the same - critical - position. This season is bonkers. Man U are blessed. Four of our starting back five are injured Leffe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted Wednesday at 17:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:07 Just now, Froggy said: Four of our starting back five are injured Leffe. Martinez, Dalot and De Ligt? Dalot will be fine, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted Wednesday at 17:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:10 South Park cripple fight vibes this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Wednesday at 17:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:11 Just now, leffe186 said: Martinez, Dalot and De Ligt? Dalot will be fine, no? Licha, Dalot, De Ligt and Yoro. De Ligt and Yoro didn't train today. Highly unlikely Dalot will be fit. Definitely out for Chelsea. He'll maybe make the bench next week. Either way we both have serious problems. Nobody is blessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago On 14/05/2025 at 18:11, Froggy said: Licha, Dalot, De Ligt and Yoro. De Ligt and Yoro didn't train today. Highly unlikely Dalot will be fit. Definitely out for Chelsea. He'll maybe make the bench next week. Either way we both have serious problems. Nobody is blessed. They are missing both Maddison and Kulu. It's yours to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Roids said: They are missing both Maddison and Kulu. It's yours to lose. No loss, he’s weaker than water that absolute drip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: No loss, he’s weaker than water that absolute drip. 12 goals, 10 assists, not terrible stats for a weakling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Crimson Cardigan said: 12 goals, 10 assists, not terrible stats for a weakling. Against FC Agriculteur, AS Agricultor and Gårdbruker FC no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Nucasol said: No loss, he’s weaker than water that absolute drip. yet still miles better than who ever his backup will be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: 12 goals, 10 assists, not terrible stats for a weakling. He's a bag of piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago As a fan of the Europa League I'd prefer a Spurs win. As a Newcastle fan I'd prefer a Man Utd win (they'll never go away whilst Spurs might). As a neutral I want to die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Like picking throwing up or having diarrhoea really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: As a fan of the Europa League I'd prefer a Spurs win. As a Newcastle fan I'd prefer a Man Utd win (they'll never go away whilst Spurs might). As a neutral I want to die. Excellent summation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just hope it's a shit spectacle and everyone who goes has an absolutely shit time of it. Not that I'm bitter or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramirez Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I'm not hugely bothered but would lean towards Spurs, Man United would be pot 1 in CL and increase our chance of playing an English side, which would seem a waste, not sure where Spurs would end up. It would definitely seem like a bigger deal spurs winning whereas just another second rate (for them) trophy for Man u. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) I think Spurs winning is the obvious choice. Pros They might keep Postecoglou Man United are the bigger long-term threat and more likely to splurge - we don't want them in the CL and with more money to spend Man United losing to Spurs of all teams would be really funny and potentially knock their confidence Man United might have to sell some players they don't want to Spurs probably aren't ready for CL next season anyway Man United are more unlikeable During Man United's 'failure' era they've still won 5 trophies, I want them to actually fail Cons Spurs are still unlikeable and it would strengthen their hand Man United can concentrate on their league form Postecoglou gets to say he continued his second season trophy winning thing Edited 5 hours ago by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago don't want want to see that obnoxious, arrogant prick of a manager Ange win a trophy, he'd be unbearably smug and I hate the thought of MU winning yet another trophy in one of the worst seasons in their history there is no good outcome here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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