ponsaelius Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Well I think you all should cut the guy some slack. He’s the greatest threat we have at the minute. He’s dominated most centrebacks he’s faced this year, he’s really good in the air, has a good left peg (let’s not mention his right), for his age leads the line well (when he’s not left too isolated), he’s a Geordie (a plus) and he scares the s*** out of most of the defenders he faces. He’s not perfect, far from it but he’s a hell of a weapon in this division, give him a year or two, watch him grow. Of course, he has to learn to screw his head on ……. That goes without saying He has a removable head? That's cool as fuck tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 He seems to be, yes. Still terrible with his feet but a geniune threat in the air with 2 wingers and our most creative CM on the pitch. That was almost a compliment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 He seems to be, yes. Still terrible with his feet but a geniune threat in the air with 2 wingers and our most creative CM on the pitch. That was almost a compliment. Grudging praise tbh. Otherwise he'd have mentioned he's good in the air when we are defending set pieces as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Glad he is amongst the goals, he is far from perfect but fans (of all clubs) can be far too quick to write off their own youngsters whilst giving youngsters of other sides much more lenience towards their failings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Glad he is amongst the goals, he is far from perfect but fans (of all clubs) can be far too quick to write off their own youngsters whilst giving youngsters of other sides much more lenience towards their failings. Or maybe they just call it as it is? He's dangerous in the air, but pretty mediocre at bringing team mates into play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 He's much better at bringing team mates into play than most give him credit for. I see that mainly as a strange myth which hes disproven every single time ive watched him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I think he is doing OK. It is his first season really as a first team regular and he has had good and poor games. He has been playing against some experienced players and given them a hard game and often has 2 or 3 men on him in the box. He is starting to get goals now so that will give him some confidence. I think he has the potential to be a good player but it depends on how hard he is prepared to work and if he gets some decent coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's much better at bringing team mates into play than most give him credit for. I see that mainly as a strange myth which hes disproven every single time ive watched him play. I take it you haven't watched many games this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Glad he is amongst the goals, he is far from perfect but fans (of all clubs) can be far too quick to write off their own youngsters whilst giving youngsters of other sides much more lenience towards their failings. Or maybe they just call it as it is? He's dangerous in the air, but pretty mediocre at bringing team mates into play. No fans make judgements far too early on their own young players or fail to see their strengths while going over the top when talking about the negative aspects of their game. There is every chance Carroll will fall down the divisions but he is still a bairn and has already been written off by some sections. There are plenty of strikers out there that looked just as rough around the edge as Carroll when they were 20 but have gone on to be decent players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's much better at bringing team mates into play than most give him credit for. I see that mainly as a strange myth which hes disproven every single time ive watched him play. Ranger is much better at bringing others into the game than Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Rangers a bit better yeah & Carroll does go down easily at times or get muscled out of it. But the Swansea game was a good example of a match where Carroll knocked on quite a few balls to one of our players when he actually had support & was still called rubbish at doing it afterwards. I think people are just noticing when he doesnt do it moreso than when he does because it fits with the idea that he cant do it well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Well I think you all should cut the guy some slack. He’s the greatest threat we have at the minute. He’s dominated most centrebacks he’s faced this year, he’s really good in the air, has a good left peg (let’s not mention his right), for his age leads the line well (when he’s not left too isolated), he’s a Geordie (a plus) and he scares the s*** out of most of the defenders he faces. He’s not perfect, far from it but he’s a hell of a weapon in this division, give him a year or two, watch him grow. Of course, he has to learn to screw his head on ……. That goes without saying Dominating centre-backs? He spends the majority of the game on the floor man. He was outfought all first half against Cov. That said, he was much better second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Whilst I like the look of what we've seen so far from Ranger, he does seem to have a bad habit of snatching at chances. Whilst he may go on to be a better player than Carroll, at the moment AC offers a bigger goal threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's not strong enough to hold the ball up so we need to get out of this mindset that he's a good option as a lone striker. If we're going one up top I'd argue Ranger is a better option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's not strong enough to hold the ball up so we need to get out of this mindset that he's a good option as a lone striker. If we're going one up top I'd argue Ranger is a better option. I just don't like to see a lone striker at all in this division, there's no call for us to play that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca888 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 For mthose on here who dont rate the lad, pull your heads in. His attributes for a lad so young far outweigh his faults at present. Yes, he is young, raw but he is causing opposing defences problems especially recently with his goals tally. God knows what you lot would be saying about him if he wasnt scoring. I remember a few weeks ago when he got slated for his performance againast Brnsley away and yet he set upo both our goals. You might lioke to remember that his recent goals tally includes strikes against teams in the top 5, being WBA (2), Cardiff (2) and the equaliser at Swansea from the only opportunity coming his way all day. He is never going to be a superstar but he has the ability to move to another level and has already proved an asset at England under 21 level too. I, for one, think he has the potential to cause havoc in the PL and would not be surprised to see one of the top 6 try to entice him away in the next couple of years. Good luck to the lad and keep on knocking them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 For mthose on here who dont rate the lad, pull your heads in. His attributes for a lad so young far outweigh his faults at present. Yes, he is young, raw but he is causing opposing defences problems especially recently with his goals tally. God knows what you lot would be saying about him if he wasnt scoring. I remember a few weeks ago when he got slated for his performance againast Brnsley away and yet he set upo both our goals. You might lioke to remember that his recent goals tally includes strikes against teams in the top 5, being WBA (2), Cardiff (2) and the equaliser at Swansea from the only opportunity coming his way all day. He is never going to be a superstar but he has the ability to move to another level and has already proved an asset at England under 21 level too. I, for one, think he has the potential to cause havoc in the PL and would not be surprised to see one of the top 6 try to entice him away in the next couple of years. Good luck to the lad and keep on knocking them in. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's not strong enough to hold the ball up so we need to get out of this mindset that he's a good option as a lone striker. If we're going one up top I'd argue Ranger is a better option. I just don't like to see a lone striker at all in this division, there's no call for us to play that way. Indeed, although Hughton is going to stick with it. If he is we need a player capable of bringing others into the game and not a lad who is primarily a big man winning flick ons to non-existant players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 For mthose on here who dont rate the lad, pull your heads in. His attributes for a lad so young far outweigh his faults at present. Yes, he is young, raw but he is causing opposing defences problems especially recently with his goals tally. God knows what you lot would be saying about him if he wasnt scoring. I remember a few weeks ago when he got slated for his performance againast Brnsley away and yet he set upo both our goals. You might lioke to remember that his recent goals tally includes strikes against teams in the top 5, being WBA (2), Cardiff (2) and the equaliser at Swansea from the only opportunity coming his way all day. He is never going to be a superstar but he has the ability to move to another level and has already proved an asset at England under 21 level too. I, for one, think he has the potential to cause havoc in the PL and would not be surprised to see one of the top 6 try to entice him away in the next couple of years. Good luck to the lad and keep on knocking them in. Wow. Shut it man, he's a coach you know! I'm sure I don't need to tell you who he's coached! Jeeeeeez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca888 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Inochi and your point is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Reminds me of Amauri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's much better at bringing team mates into play than most give him credit for. I see that mainly as a strange myth which hes disproven every single time ive watched him play. Ranger is much better at bringing others into the game than Carroll. He's evidently worse at scoring goals though which is a fair achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He'll be here for a long time I reckon. I'm not his biggest fan, but if he gets agressive and gets in defenders heads like he did to Morgan against Sheffield United then I reckon he'll be a decent asset in the PL should we go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 For mthose on here who dont rate the lad, pull your heads in. His attributes for a lad so young far outweigh his faults at present. Yes, he is young, raw but he is causing opposing defences problems especially recently with his goals tally. God knows what you lot would be saying about him if he wasnt scoring. I remember a few weeks ago when he got slated for his performance againast Brnsley away and yet he set upo both our goals. You might lioke to remember that his recent goals tally includes strikes against teams in the top 5, being WBA (2), Cardiff (2) and the equaliser at Swansea from the only opportunity coming his way all day. He is never going to be a superstar but he has the ability to move to another level and has already proved an asset at England under 21 level too. I, for one, think he has the potential to cause havoc in the PL and would not be surprised to see one of the top 6 try to entice him away in the next couple of years. Good luck to the lad and keep on knocking them in. Wow. Shut it man, he's a coach you know! I'm sure I don't need to tell you who he's coached! Jeeeeeez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 He's much better at bringing team mates into play than most give him credit for. I see that mainly as a strange myth which hes disproven every single time ive watched him play. Ranger is much better at bringing others into the game than Carroll. He's evidently worse at scoring goals though which is a fair achievement. I never said otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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