Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJQwVuBfcVc&feature=player_embedded# :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: No better than Scousers now, well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://i55.tinypic.com/1z2otbt.jpg That just made me feel sad. Look how heartbroken Nolan is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 No better than Scousers now, well done. Oh no. I saw the scousers doing that and felt relieved that I hadn't seen any of our lot doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Nice picture that, canny colours. Racist. Dave, you cunt, why didn't you stop this transfer? You have the power. Black power? You're getting worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Nice picture that, canny colours. Racist. Dave, you cunt, why didn't you stop this transfer? You have the power. Black power? You're getting worse! Surely a ban for the C word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He doesn't even set it on fire ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm surprisingly not bothered, probably because I've just come to accept that this sort of thing happens when you support NUFC. It seems like a pretty shit deal for both Newcastle and Liverpool. Us for obvious emotional reasons and them because they've just spunked 35~40 million on a young player who may or may not retain his current form over the long term. In some ways I think both sets of fans could be less than happy about this. Actually, I should probably rephrase and say that it's a pretty shit deal for both Newcastle and Chelsea, given where the money's actually come from. As for the cash itself, 40 million pounds is a ridiculously large amount of money. It's the kind of lump sum that could completely revolutionize a team and its league position if spread around wisely. It's a shame that I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the capabilities of the people who are tasked with spending it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJQwVuBfcVc&feature=player_embedded# :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: No better than Scousers now, well done. Embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://i55.tinypic.com/1z2otbt.jpg That just made me feel sad. Look how heartbroken Nolan is. The crazy shit is that that's probably a picture of Nolan celebrating a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'll wait to hear what Carroll says before having an opinion. At this stage I know that something is very dodgy with the way the events unfolded, and with Ashley at the helm I'm 100% suspicious of absolutely everything that he does, and don't believe a word of anything that comes out of the club's grief-hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'll wait to hear what Carroll says before having an opinion. At this stage I know that something is very dodgy with the way the events unfolded, and with Ashley at the helm I'm 100% suspicious of absolutely everything that he does, and don't believe a word of anything that comes out of the club's grief-hole. Probably signed an NDA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm surprisingly not bothered, probably because I've just come to accept that this sort of thing happens when you support NUFC. It seems like a pretty shit deal for both Newcastle and Liverpool. Us for obvious emotional reasons and them because they've just spunked 35~40 million on a young player who may or may not retain his current form over the long term. In some ways I think both sets of fans could be less than happy about this. Actually, I should probably rephrase and say that it's a pretty shit deal for both Newcastle and Chelsea, given where the money's actually come from. As for the cash itself, 40 million pounds is a ridiculously large amount of money. It's the kind of lump sum that could completely revolutionize a team and its league position if spread around wisely. It's a shame that I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the capabilities of the people who are tasked with spending it. Who says we are spending it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm surprisingly not bothered, probably because I've just come to accept that this sort of thing happens when you support NUFC. It seems like a pretty s*** deal for both Newcastle and Liverpool. Us for obvious emotional reasons and them because they've just spunked 35~40 million on a young player who may or may not retain his current form over the long term. In some ways I think both sets of fans could be less than happy about this. Actually, I should probably rephrase and say that it's a pretty s*** deal for both Newcastle and Chelsea, given where the money's actually come from. As for the cash itself, 40 million pounds is a ridiculously large amount of money. It's the kind of lump sum that could completely revolutionize a team and its league position if spread around wisely. It's a shame that I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the capabilities of the people who are tasked with spending it. Who says we are spending it? and there is the crux of the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeta87 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJQwVuBfcVc&feature=player_embedded# :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: No better than Scousers now, well done. Embarrassing Disgrace.. and can't even burn it properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm surprisingly not bothered, probably because I've just come to accept that this sort of thing happens when you support NUFC. It seems like a pretty s*** deal for both Newcastle and Liverpool. Us for obvious emotional reasons and them because they've just spunked 35~40 million on a young player who may or may not retain his current form over the long term. In some ways I think both sets of fans could be less than happy about this. Actually, I should probably rephrase and say that it's a pretty s*** deal for both Newcastle and Chelsea, given where the money's actually come from. As for the cash itself, 40 million pounds is a ridiculously large amount of money. It's the kind of lump sum that could completely revolutionize a team and its league position if spread around wisely. It's a shame that I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the capabilities of the people who are tasked with spending it. Who says we are spending it? It's going to be spent on something, obviously. It might not necessarily be players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'll wait to hear what Carroll says before having an opinion. At this stage I know that something is very dodgy with the way the events unfolded, and with Ashley at the helm I'm 100% suspicious of absolutely everything that he does, and don't believe a word of anything that comes out of the club's grief-hole. Probably signed an NDA. So how is he allowing the release of transcripts regarding his feelings over the transfer allegedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeta87 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm surprisingly not bothered, probably because I've just come to accept that this sort of thing happens when you support NUFC. It seems like a pretty s*** deal for both Newcastle and Liverpool. Us for obvious emotional reasons and them because they've just spunked 35~40 million on a young player who may or may not retain his current form over the long term. In some ways I think both sets of fans could be less than happy about this. Actually, I should probably rephrase and say that it's a pretty s*** deal for both Newcastle and Chelsea, given where the money's actually come from. As for the cash itself, 40 million pounds is a ridiculously large amount of money. It's the kind of lump sum that could completely revolutionize a team and its league position if spread around wisely. It's a shame that I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the capabilities of the people who are tasked with spending it. Who says we are spending it? It's going to be spent on something, obviously. It might not necessarily be players. They are for Ashley's 2nd casino trip i tell you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJQwVuBfcVc&feature=player_embedded# :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: No better than Scousers now, well done. Embarrassing Disgrace.. and can't even burn it properly Most clothes are non flammable now anycase. They probably should have put some bloody petrol on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybread Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 re; transcripts. it really is very simple. andy carroll recently signed a new contract, the manager has continually said in interviews if we are to challenge again at the top we need to keep our best players carroll included. carroll has previously said in interviews hes no interest in leaving now unless ive totally missed it the football world/premier league does not have an nfl/nhl type player collective bargaining agreement detailing situations where trades can happen without the players authority unless they have e.g "no trade clauses" etc.. if carroll really wanted to stay he would have. which leaves a possibility that he's got whiff of wages on offer at l'pool and asked for increase ashley says no you've only recently got an increase on new contract, transfer request goes in to call ashleys bluff its accepted. oh fuck..... ive put myself in a pickle here and the rest is history my take on situation. zero sources of info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'll wait to hear what Carroll says before having an opinion. At this stage I know that something is very dodgy with the way the events unfolded, and with Ashley at the helm I'm 100% suspicious of absolutely everything that he does, and don't believe a word of anything that comes out of the club's grief-hole. Probably signed an NDA. So how is he allowing the release of transcripts regarding his feelings over the transfer allegedly. Damage limitation. There might be footage of him saying women can't fight for toffee and other such sexist nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 This has been a wake-up call for many younger fans - esp on this forum. Newcastle United's place in the scheme of things has been well and truly shown for what it is - a middle-ranking football club with an interesting history and a larger than average set of fans. Those of us who have seen this kind of thing many times before will not be surprised - disappointed that the club have no ambition, but we all knew the policies Ashley has brought to the club. Those blaming Carroll ought to get their heads out of their backsides - does anyone seriously think that he put in a transfer request without the knowledge of both NUFC and Liverpool ? If so, there must be fairies at the bottom of your garden, visible to only you....the transfer request was made so that it looked as if NUFC had made a serious effort not to sell. I am not saying the player didn't want to go - would YOU turn down the chance of instant millions and to be signed by a famous club who have just been taken over and demonstrated(by signing Suarez AND Carroll) that they want success..?? Or would you stay at a club where you don't know what's going to happen from day to day and where the owner has made so many bad decisions that you know there is little chance of success ?? Had it been NUFC trying to sign Suarez or Torres, do you seriously think that Carroll would have 'put in a transfer request'..? The lad is not blameless but he knows full well that the club is going NOWHERE, and now, so do the fans. The list of outgoings from SJP - esp to Liverpool - over the years reads like an International 11 ; Albert Stubbins(1940s), Terry McDermott(1974), Alan Kennedy(1978), Peter Beardsley(1987) and now, Andy Carroll, 2011. We have also had Pop Robson(Transfer Req)1971, Malcolm Macdonald, 1976, Tommy Craig/Irving Nattrass,1978,Chris Waddle, 1985 and Paul Gascoigne, 1988. The only period that NUFC DIDN'T have to sell its best players(and indeed, was one of the main buyers in the market)was between 1993 and 1997...even the likes of Hamman wanted away in 98 after Gullit took over. All the players named above were at their peak or still to reach it with the exception of Nattrass who had taken several major injuries - and most of them were 'Geordies' who, according to the starry-eyed on here would never leave the club...FAT CHANCE. Football is a dirty business - even more so today. Money has ruined it and unless you have rich benefactors who are willing to invest and compete, you are going nowhere. Its not a happy scenario, but that's what you have. As far as we can see, there has been no replacement or any other major signing - the club is not out of the woods yet, and even if we stay up, I wonder how they think they are going to be able to attract decent forwards with Ashley's wage structure etc. Welcome to the world of NUFC - those of us long in the tooth have seen it all before ; sell your best players and you are mediocre and, worse than that, SEEN to be by the football world. We had our chance in the 90s and blew it. Carroll won't be the last...watch this space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Merlin, that's a really interesting post. Can I ask then, why do you still support NUFC and do you get any enjoyment out of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Everyone won...except the actual club. I am sure that Carroll is ecstatic with his new wages. I am sure that Ashley is ecstatic that he squeezed 35 million out of a prospect who has had one good half season in the top flight. In truth, that prospect would probably have been better off if he stayed. 35 million price tag and the Scousers wont be very forgiving if he starts off slow. He left a fanbase that was beginning to adore him to one that may just hang him out to dry if he doesn't set Anfield alight. This is how promising careers can be smashed into dust. Francis Jeffers comes to mind (although I never rated him much whenever I saw him play for Everton). And if it happens to Carroll, fuck him. Worrying about his development is no longer my problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 merlin...where does andy cole fit into that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 This has been a wake-up call for many younger fans - esp on this forum. Newcastle United's place in the scheme of things has been well and truly shown for what it is - a middle-ranking football club with an interesting history and a larger than average set of fans. Those of us who have seen this kind of thing many times before will not be surprised - disappointed that the club have no ambition, but we all knew the policies Ashley has brought to the club. Those blaming Carroll ought to get their heads out of their backsides - does anyone seriously think that he put in a transfer request without the knowledge of both NUFC and Liverpool ? If so, there must be fairies at the bottom of your garden, visible to only you....the transfer request was made so that it looked as if NUFC had made a serious effort not to sell. I am not saying the player didn't want to go - would YOU turn down the chance of instant millions and to be signed by a famous club who have just been taken over and demonstrated(by signing Suarez AND Carroll) that they want success..?? Or would you stay at a club where you don't know what's going to happen from day to day and where the owner has made so many bad decisions that you know there is little chance of success ?? Had it been NUFC trying to sign Suarez or Torres, do you seriously think that Carroll would have 'put in a transfer request'..? The lad is not blameless but he knows full well that the club is going NOWHERE, and now, so do the fans. The list of outgoings from SJP - esp to Liverpool - over the years reads like an International 11 ; Albert Stubbins(1940s), Terry McDermott(1974), Alan Kennedy(1978), Peter Beardsley(1987) and now, Andy Carroll, 2011. We have also had Pop Robson(Transfer Req)1971, Malcolm Macdonald, 1976, Tommy Craig/Irving Nattrass,1978,Chris Waddle, 1985 and Paul Gascoigne, 1988. The only period that NUFC DIDN'T have to sell its best players(and indeed, was one of the main buyers in the market)was between 1993 and 1997...even the likes of Hamman wanted away in 98 after Gullit took over. All the players named above were at their peak or still to reach it with the exception of Nattrass who had taken several major injuries - and most of them were 'Geordies' who, according to the starry-eyed on here would never leave the club...FAT CHANCE. Football is a dirty business - even more so today. Money has ruined it and unless you have rich benefactors who are willing to invest and compete, you are going nowhere. Its not a happy scenario, but that's what you have. As far as we can see, there has been no replacement or any other major signing - the club is not out of the woods yet, and even if we stay up, I wonder how they think they are going to be able to attract decent forwards with Ashley's wage structure etc. Welcome to the world of NUFC - those of us long in the tooth have seen it all before ; sell your best players and you are mediocre and, worse than that, SEEN to be by the football world. We had our chance in the 90s and blew it. Carroll won't be the last...watch this space. Best post in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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