Vinny Green Balls Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 If he went on to score 5-9 more goals, we would likely get as much. We are in a worse position without him, and still 15 games to go. Teams have gone on worse runs than picking up less than 10 points out of the last 15 matches. I don't see it happening. But as I said before, I don't like some asshole putting the supporter in this uncomfortable position, just wondering if we will drop like a stone now. How will Carroll's leaving affect the morale of the players? Who knows? But I am a lot more worried now than I was on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Thinking about it, this might disrupt our group of lads more than first thought if they feel the club forced out their mate, no? Don't be daft. I'm sure they'd all also hand in a transfer request if they thought they could triple their wages elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He barely smiles in that whole thing TBF... he doesn't look 100% happy. I hope he hates it there. Looks very nervous. Is that his first ever proper tv interview? Can't remember him doing one when he was with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Soiling their pants? Come on man! Have a bit of faith in the rest of the team. We've been desperately close to three wins out of three since Carroll's been out of the side. I appreciate that with him in it, we probably would have won the games - or had a significantly greater chance. But we're not in any way likely to go down. A bigger risk would have been keeping him... the risk being we don't get as much money for him in the summer. Personally, the fact that we should be safe without him is little compensation. So we do stay up, we've lost our best striker and one of the biggest prospects in the English game. £35m, are we going to spend it? Are we fuck. As usual, the actual result of this sorry saga is that NUFC have taken a step back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He barely smiles in that whole thing TBF... he doesn't look 100% happy. I hope he hates it there. Looks very nervous. Is that his first ever proper tv interview? Can't remember him doing one when he was with us. Never seen one. Didn't even watch that one, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 i see our captain Nolan is now on lfctv banging on about what a great signing carroll will be for liverpool, f*** me. wonder when we can expect gerrard to wax lyrical over torres on chelsea tv. un f***ing believable just a little disclaimer i dont know if its a new interview or old one but as i dont have lfctv however it looks like its new looking at description Fuck me if that's true. What's the fucking world coming to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He barely smiles in that whole thing TBF... he doesn't look 100% happy. I hope he hates it there. Looks very nervous. Is that his first ever proper tv interview? Can't remember him doing one when he was with us. Never seen one. Didn't even watch that one, tbh. Did one pre-Chelsea game on Sky. All about how much he loved the club and his only aim was to finish his career at the club, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Nolan can go and do one the fat prick It wouldnt suprise me if Nolan was in Carrolls ear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Soiling their pants? Come on man! Have a bit of faith in the rest of the team. We've been desperately close to three wins out of three since Carroll's been out of the side. I appreciate that with him in it, we probably would have won the games - or had a significantly greater chance. But we're not in any way likely to go down. A bigger risk would have been keeping him... the risk being we don't get as much money for him in the summer. Personally, the fact that we should be safe without him is little compensation. So we do stay up, we've lost our best striker and one of the biggest prospects in the English game. £35m, are we going to spend it? Are we fuck. As usual, the actual result of this sorry saga is that NUFC have taken a step back. Not debating that, it's absolutely gutting, and i can never forgive the lad for turning his back on us simply for a greater wedge. My only point is that i think the board have gone about the situation correctly and as well as they could've done. I do think we'll spend it n'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 People really shouldn't make their minds up on Carroll based on his interviews at Liverpool - he's hardly going to say "Feels a bit shit tbh, didn't really want to come but decided to cos they didn't want me" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 People really shouldn't make their minds up on Carroll based on his interviews at Liverpool - he's hardly going to say "Feels a bit s*** tbh, didn't really want to come but decided to cos they didn't want me" It's not that. Just he could pretend to be a bit enthusiastic at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Soiling their pants? Come on man! Have a bit of faith in the rest of the team. We've been desperately close to three wins out of three since Carroll's been out of the side. I appreciate that with him in it, we probably would have won the games - or had a significantly greater chance. But we're not in any way likely to go down. A bigger risk would have been keeping him... the risk being we don't get as much money for him in the summer. Personally, the fact that we should be safe without him is little compensation. So we do stay up, we've lost our best striker and one of the biggest prospects in the English game. £35m, are we going to spend it? Are we fuck. As usual, the actual result of this sorry saga is that NUFC have taken a step back. Not debating that, it's absolutely gutting, and i can never forgive the lad for turning his back on us simply for a greater wedge. My only point is that i think the board have gone about the situation correctly and as well as they could've done. I do think we'll spend it n'all. Perhaps they have in this instance, wish I was as confident as you that we'll spend the dollar though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Shellsuits, Le Coq Sportif, Lonsdale and Andy Carroll - Mike Ashley has been selling overpriced shite to the scousers for years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 That video makes me so livid. He is a grade A cunt. The way he turned his back on everything he said about NUFC will probably live on for longer than his actual career. "Remember Andy Carroll" people will say when any local player shows some promise. I hope he not only fails but embarrasses himself badly and they turn on him quicker than they did for Hodgson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Can we lock this thread The twat has gone, he is chuffed from the looks of things on the video. Forget and move on Prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Shellsuits, Le Coq Sportif, Lonsdale and Andy Carroll - Mike Ashley has been selling overpriced s**** to the scousers for years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thump 1892 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFB_A5aUsto Ugh, I'm going to be sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 "He's got a bit of a knock and is probably a few weeks away," said Reds boss Kenny Dalglish. That 'bit of a knock' would be the thigh tear that has kept him out of action since mid-December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Shellsuits, Le Coq Sportif, Lonsdale and Andy Carroll - Mike Ashley has been selling overpriced shite to the scousers for years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Chicken Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Sat 30th April @ Anfield - Destroy & Rebuild Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris P Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFB_A5aUsto Ugh, I'm going to be sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Whats all this 'big opportunity', 'Kev is delighted for me', 'big club' bullshit. I dont just mean from Carroll, but the guy interviewing him too? Are we a fucking Championship club again like? We are 2 bastard points behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 p.s Carroll sounds like a gay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFB_A5aUsto Ugh, I'm going to be sick. They are easily going to get the best out of him, he's even washed his fuking hair! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thump 1892 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Anybody read this? http://soccerlens.com/lies-what-andy-carroll-and-newcastle-arent-telling-the-fans/64987/ “Despite getting the best financial deal of the day you suspect Newcastle will end up being the window’s biggest losers.” – Adrian Clarke. In a nutshell, that’s what Liverpool’s record £35m signing of Andy Carroll from Newcastle United boils down to – they got silly money that they couldn’t refuse, but with no time to reinforce the squad, they now face 4 months without one of their best players and might as well be dragged into a relegation battle given the tight nature of the bottom half of the table. Andy Carroll has said that he didn’t want to leave Newcastle, and that the board asked him to sign a transfer request and basically ‘backed him into a corner’. Adrian (see his twitter stream from the link above) argues that clubs force players out all the time, and objectively speaking if Newcastle had received the £35m bid at any other point in the transfer window (or indeed the next summer) it would have been madness not to sell – £35m could easily be spent on much-needed strengthening of the playing squad. Andy Carroll: “[Managing director] Derek [Llambias] asked me to hand in a transfer request, so I was pushed into a corner and had no choice. I wasn’t wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money. Then I flew down in (owner Mike Ashley’s) helicopter. I didn’t want to leave. I’m gutted that I wasn’t wanted at my home team after everything I have done and the progress I have made. I didn’t want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn’t want to leave.” Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has hit back at Carroll’s claims of being ‘forced out’, saying that in light of Liverpool’s offer he had asked for a new contract (after recently signing a long-term deal) and that once that request was turned down, asked to leave. Alan Pardew: “I went to see Andy, and face to face we had a conversation about him wanting a new contract, even though he signed on in October, and (he said) if he didn’t get that contract, he wanted to go.” So what really happened? Firstly, I don’t think Carroll wanted to go. He (or his agent) knew about the Liverpool offer, knew the wages that were on offer, and probably decided to use that as leverage to get an improved contract. Problem was, the money on the table was too high to be dismissed out of hand, and the wages on offer were too high to match for a club that has been desperately trying to curtail expenses / wages in the last two years. Secondly, did the Newcastle ownership think it was a good deal to cash in on Andy Carroll when the first offer came in? Probably. You’d consider it, even if you knew that the club needed to keep the player to re-establish themselves in the Premier League, and that keeping Carroll in the face of bigger clubs making silly bids would bring them some much-needed credibility after the Hughton decision. “Sounds like Carroll and his agent had their bluff called by Ashley. One push too far, owner cracks, game changes and Carroll’s in a corner.” – Iain Macintosh It seems like Carroll went ahead and asked for a raise, and if so, it was rightly rejected by the Newcastle board for being too soon after his previous contract signing. And it also seems likely that Newcastle were aware that a big-money, last-minute move for the player was due to come in, and they had at least entertained the idea of Newcastle say Carroll asked for a raise, and asked to leave if he didn’t get it. Carroll says he didn’t want to go. You can’t have both, so while it’s likely that Carroll did push for an improved contract, it also seems like Newcastle were less inclined to keep him than he (or anyone else) thought, and when they saw the money and Carroll’s strategy on the last day, they pushed the deal through. Carroll, for what it’s worth, gets a bumper wage hike, a nice signing-on bonus while his agent gets a good deal too. He’s going to play in a bigger club with bigger aspirations, although the move is probably an year too soon for him and it remains to be seen if Liverpool can properly manage him. Newcastle will suffer, although if Pardew can keep the team in the Premier League and is given the 35m to spend on rebuilding the squad this summer, they might come out of it all right. Regardless of what fans may feel about agents, Mike Ashley and Alan Pardew (or young footballers), this is what happens when there’s a lot of money involved. Loyalties are cast aside, and only the ugly truth remains. The thing with football is, we spend so much time pretending this isn’t true that we get surprised every time it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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