Sifu Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Carroll scored most of his goals from set plays, pretty sure Joey only supplied one of his goals with a cross in open play, against West Ham? could well be true but I’m not just talking about Carroll’s goals. He was a danger to most defences as Tron has indicated why. The only early balls he gets from LFC are from centre backs with his back to goal. £35m an not a clue what to do with him — hail ‘King Kenny’! Could be worse, they could have spent hundreds of billions on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mucky01 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 if you don’t want to play the ball out wide and hit an early ball for a centre forward to attack as your game plan, why buy Andy Carroll for all that dosh? madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 if you don’t want to play the ball out wide and hit an early ball for a centre forward to attack as your game plan, why buy Andy Carroll for all that dosh? madness. it was madness as big a piece of insanity as the transfer market has ever produced and it was down to simple desperation not even on the footballing front but the pr front, from their pov they needed to get someone in for big cash to prove yes Liverpool are still a big club and big players in the transfer market after the sale of Torres so they went for the flavour of the month without it seems much consideration of how would he fit in to whatever system they were trying to build. Notice Dalglish was getting narky about reporters asking questions about Carroll getting into the 1st team (which seems a reasonable thing to ask) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mucky01 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 yeh I’ve noticed his smug sarcasm is developing into a radgie glare! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 In the way that matters on a football field, he isn't quick. Put him in a quick team and he'll slow them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's all about his role. Shearer worked within our quick side of 2001-2003 by playing to his strengths and to some extent staying relatively static. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Liverpool don’t have anyone who can cross the ball the way that Joey Barton did for him, neither do we now. You don't think Cabaye, Marveaux and Ben Arfa can cross a ball? Or Adam, Downing, Enrique, Henderson, Johnson or Gerrard. There's plenty of crossing quality there. From one analysis I've seen, one of Liverpool's main problem is the lack of support from CM. Henderson and Downing are both left to themselves in creating chances for Suarez and Carroll, while Lucas and Adam sit deep. Second, Downing is often used on the right side. Consequently he tends to drift inside, instead of running down the touchline to deliver the crossers Carroll needs. Third, Adam is a class act when it comes to hitting the long passes, and set pieces, but he's not the kind of player who's capable of supplying Carroll with crossers from OPEN play. In sum, what LFC really lacks is a bit more movement in central midfield, and a Kenny who understand that Downing needs to play on the left with Enrique who must support him so he's able to hit the crossers from dangerous areas. Also they need a cultivated RM. Luckily Kenny is too stupid to understand this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Carroll could play on the deck but it is a big mistake to ask him to cover too much of the pitch. It almost as if it were to ask a child to eat an elephant's share of food. Even Shearer at him old age was a better outlet when he went to the wings to collect the ball. They will need to Isolate him in a attacking areas and ask him to focus his time there... If SWP could cover X% of the pitch Andy should cover X/2% but the workrate per Kilometer should still be close on average between the two. They indeed got good players that could cross a ball....but when it is to a single target ....IT is Bloody predictable. When Newcasstle crossed the ball ...Carroll had his mafia gang who were tall and big really to get ahead him or prepare to leech around.. Drogba while playing in his 1st year at Chelsea never really looked to score as well (Duff and Robben were banging them in)...he complained that it wasn.t his lack of quality but his contribution to the game else where... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's all about his role. Shearer worked within our quick side of 2001-2003 by playing to his strengths and to some extent staying relatively static. It actually gave Shearer a new lease of life having so many quick players around him but Carroll could never replicate that because even if Shearer didn't move as well as Carroll, his control, hold up play, and intelligence was far superior. Carroll has some great raw attributes but as a team player he's not in the same league as Shearer. Or Kuyt for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Carroll is going to succeed. This is something we are going to have to live with. The current period is the Andy cole phase at man utd when he suffered from shin splints and we were all smug thinking he'd never win fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Carroll is going to succeed. This is something we are going to have to live with. The current period is the Andy cole phase at man utd when he suffered from shin splints and we were all smug thinking he'd never win fuck all. Smugness has nowt to do with it. He might succeed, but to suggest it is certain is no more accurate than to write him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Andy Cole had already scored about 45 Premier League goals over an 18 month spell, Carroll scored 12 in 4 months. Massive difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pedro_de_geordieo Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Not having his best day today and struggling at Liverpool in general Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 did i see him get outmuscled by leon osman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pedro_de_geordieo Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Yep has been a few times today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Been turboshit so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Liverpool should bring him on in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 They amount of possession to the amount of service the strikers are getting is applauding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 He's shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Liverpool should bring him on in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 They amount of possession to the amount of service the strikers are getting is applauding Exactly. And that's why Carroll is shit..He needs crossers, preferably from the area around the corner flag. Those are easier to handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 He looks awful like, service shmervice - his movement is non-existant and I'm sure he was more mobile than that when he played for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Carroll has lost the ball every single time it's been given to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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