maze Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Rejected? Wat? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500473/Andy-Carroll-transfer-Newcastle-loan-bid-slammed-by-Brendan-Rodgers.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Rejected? Wat? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500473/Andy-Carroll-transfer-Newcastle-loan-bid-slammed-by-Brendan-Rodgers.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'd love a Bellamy type upfront, would be my preferred option for a new striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 "Hamstring injury" My thoughts too. Just doesn't want to be cup tied. Wouldn't be anyway. Not having a go at Chris_R with this but this must be the 50th time i've seen that statement and your correct answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Haven't caught up with the thread as such but I assume Luke Edwards is talking bollocks as always? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. Yup, totally agree, whether it's the right way to go about more or less all signing is a different argument though. I'm anti-Carroll btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 "Hamstring injury" My thoughts too. Just doesn't want to be cup tied. Wouldn't be anyway. Not having a go at Chris_R with this but this must be the 50th time i've seen that statement and your correct answer. Now I could well be wrong here but I was under the impression we could only re-register one player who'd played for another team in Europe already this season? Of course that could be Carroll, but we're also in for Debuchy who could end up in a similar predicament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Don't get this. We've got Cisse (poss ACN), Ba (poss ACN), Shola (injury prone) and Sammy (injured) to my knowledge. This lot would be lucky to last a full PL season, nevermind UEFA and the others on top. If Carroll regains his form - and there's no reason to doubt that under Pardew- then he gives us another dimension. Who gives a f*** if it means we lump it to the forwards now and again. Pardew has clearly shown he'll play the team that enables us to defeat the opposition in the most effective way. Some teams this will mean route one, others our 4-3-3. I just don't think we need to go big on a 3rd striker, it almost seems a bit egocentric, showing we can get one over on Liverpool again. It's not like we are loaded, I just find it a bit queer. Strange that most people didn't have that opinion about De Jong. Not far off the same money. Seems fairly sensible to me. What are the other options? I'm not a scout, options are probably limited at this point as we seem to have waited around all summer to see what happens with Carroll. I expect Carr had a list of possible Ba replacements/3rd strikers/whatever with De Jong at the top, but I think that list was abandoned when it became clear Carroll was available, if so then i'm not sure that was wise. The De Jong one surprised me because of the money, but at that point I thought Ba was a goner so I was in favour, plus De Jong can play in a more withdrawn role which appeals to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 West Ham United manager Sam Allardyce has not ended his interest in Liverpool striker Andy Carroll but fears he would not have the money for a permanent deal. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8012934/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 "Hamstring injury" My thoughts too. Just doesn't want to be cup tied. Wouldn't be anyway. Not having a go at Chris_R with this but this must be the 50th time i've seen that statement and your correct answer. Now I could well be wrong here but I was under the impression we could only re-register one player who'd played for another team in Europe already this season? Of course that could be Carroll, but we're also in for Debuchy who could end up in a similar predicament. You get to re pick your squad once the qualifying rounds are finished. Anyone who played in he quali rounds are no longer cup tied. Been like it a while now mate, Douglas from Twente has played for them already but if we did sign him he wouldn't be cup tied. I maybe be wrong about this but i think as long ago as Laurent Robert this was in, he played in the quali rounds before Sir Bob signed him, he was still allowed to play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Rejected? Wat? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500473/Andy-Carroll-transfer-Newcastle-loan-bid-slammed-by-Brendan-Rodgers.html @shaun-uk - A club dont just offer 35 million. They make an enquiry first and was probably told, 35M for Andy Carroll. Deal went through. Now they are saying, we will take him back for 12 million. That is disgusting because they are basically making money without taking any risk. For all we know Newcastle may have said, go for 35M, play really badly and we will buy you again for cheap. Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500473/Andy-Carroll-transfer-Newcastle-loan-bid-slammed-by-Brendan-Rodgers.html#ixzz24Q47sUgk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Realist Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Occam's razorburn - the stupidest explanation is the most likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 You get to re pick your squad once the qualifying rounds are finished. Anyone who played in he quali rounds are no longer cup tied. Been like it a while now mate, Douglas from Twente has played for them already but if we did sign him he wouldn't be cup tied. I maybe be wrong about this but i think as long ago as Laurent Robert this was in, he played in the quali rounds before Sir Bob signed him, he was still allowed to play for us. You got that bit right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 No doubt we'll keep sniffing about so he knows we are interested and then try and pick him up for peanuts in January if the Demba's go to Africa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 No doubt we'll keep sniffing about so he knows we are interested and then try and pick him up for peanuts in January if the Demba's go to Africa Yep, won't budge for their demands but rather wait for the situation to spiral out of control for Liverpool. He'll definately come back eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 You get to re pick your squad once the qualifying rounds are finished. Anyone who played in he quali rounds are no longer cup tied. Been like it a while now mate, Douglas from Twente has played for them already but if we did sign him he wouldn't be cup tied. I maybe be wrong about this but i think as long ago as Laurent Robert this was in, he played in the quali rounds before Sir Bob signed him, he was still allowed to play for us. You got that bit right. I did but I know why now. We signed Robert after he played in the Intertoto but he was still allowed to play for us in Europe that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 You get to re pick your squad once the qualifying rounds are finished. Anyone who played in he quali rounds are no longer cup tied. Been like it a while now mate, Douglas from Twente has played for them already but if we did sign him he wouldn't be cup tied. I maybe be wrong about this but i think as long ago as Laurent Robert this was in, he played in the quali rounds before Sir Bob signed him, he was still allowed to play for us. You got that bit right. I did but I know why now. We signed Robert after he played in the Intertoto but he was still allowed to play for us in Europe that season. But we didn't play in Europe that season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Got knocked out of the Intertoto 4-4 off Troyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 You get to re pick your squad once the qualifying rounds are finished. Anyone who played in he quali rounds are no longer cup tied. Been like it a while now mate, Douglas from Twente has played for them already but if we did sign him he wouldn't be cup tied. I maybe be wrong about this but i think as long ago as Laurent Robert this was in, he played in the quali rounds before Sir Bob signed him, he was still allowed to play for us. You got that bit right. I did but I know why now. We signed Robert after he played in the Intertoto but he was still allowed to play for us in Europe that season. But we didn't play in Europe that season... We went out to Troyes before he signed iirc Edit: Damn you otter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Got knocked out of the Intertoto 4-4 off Troyes. But if we had beat Troyes he would have been allowed to appear in the UEFA Cup for us. Just pointing out that there has been something in place about not cup tying players if they played in qualifying rounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I'm anti-Carroll btw. I've actually got an Auntie Carol. True story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 You get to re pick your squad once the qualifying rounds are finished. Anyone who played in he quali rounds are no longer cup tied. Been like it a while now mate, Douglas from Twente has played for them already but if we did sign him he wouldn't be cup tied. I maybe be wrong about this but i think as long ago as Laurent Robert this was in, he played in the quali rounds before Sir Bob signed him, he was still allowed to play for us. You got that bit right. I did but I know why now. We signed Robert after he played in the Intertoto but he was still allowed to play for us in Europe that season. But we didn't play in Europe that season... We went out to Troyes before he signed iirc Edit: Damn you otter He was signed way before the Troyes game, he played in Rob Lee's testimonial. Just couldn't play in Inter Toto as PSG had been in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Heard a couple of rumours now saying he's at the ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Heard a couple of rumours now saying he's at the ground @cwarr07 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Heard a couple of rumours now saying he's at the ground on the ground mebee, pissed again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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