Frazzle Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 we turned down robbie keane for 8 million because souness said he wasn't a proper footballer since then robbie keane has scored around 4x as many goals as owen and we would of had 8 million spare + the extra wages on strengthening another part of the squad to me michael owen is the worst signing in the clubs history and the sooner he leave's the sooner the club can move forward Turning down Keane was a mistake but 4x as many goals? He hasn't even scored twice as many. 49 league goals for Keane (since Owen joined) 26 for Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 When did we "turn down" Keane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Can't really blame Souness for Owen when he didn't want him, Anelka for the same price we sold Bellamy for would have been an adequate replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 we turned down robbie keane for 8 million because souness said he wasn't a proper footballer since then robbie keane has scored around 4x as many goals as owen and we would of had 8 million spare + the extra wages on strengthening another part of the squad to me michael owen is the worst signing in the clubs history and the sooner he leave's the sooner the club can move forward When did we turn down Robbie Keane? Not doubting you I just don't actually remember. Pretty sure Roeder had a shot at him at about £4m. Think that was the case anyway cos i specifically remember being royally pissed off that Roeder had "turned down Campbell and Keane" that summer. We ended up, of course, with Olivier Bernard as our only defensive import. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I still wish we'd have signed Anelka instead of Owen as do most. However him under Souness would have been a nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Say what you want about the Owen purchase but buying him is buying guaranteed goals. It's also guaranteed injuries, with his history of strains, sprains and brittle bones. I believe his goal away at Birmingham last season was our turning point to survival personally and I'd pay it all again if he can bag enough goals to keep us up this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Did anyone else have an encompassing feeling that it was too good to be true, even when we'd just signed him? It's unbelievable, and i forget sometimes, that he played nine games for us - then spent the next one and a half years injured. I even sometimes struggle to comprehend that Michael Owen is actually a Newcastle player, and it's been a 'reality' for four years. I've just got no affiliation for the bloke. Undeniable quality, with a thoroughly shite injury record, and we'll his erratic bursts of goals that come around now and again when he's fit... but i don't think i'll feel anything when he does go. His departure has felt like an inevitability from the moment he held his kid infront of the Leazes, with a forced smile on his face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 guranteed goals, take out the penalty's this season his goal record is very very average he's not scored against a top 4 club since he's been at the club ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 guranteed goals, take out the penalty's this season his goal record is very very average 1 pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 guranteed goals, take out the penalty's this season his goal record is very very average he's not scored against a top 4 club since he's been at the club ffs How many has he played against? And in how many of those games was he fully fit? I'm not being an Owen apologist here but fuck me you'll all be singing his praises if he scores 6 goals between now and the end of the season. Incidentally, do you think he's happy with how his career has panned out? From best player in Europe to endless injuries, a club unlikely to achieve anything in his career and out of the England squad? A real shame if you ask me. Now, Viduka on the other hand.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Still better value than Luque. For better or worse, under the Ashley regime the days of buying the likes of Owen and paying those sort of wages are over. as will the days of top flight football for better or worse, as you say In the long run healthy financial status is way much important than big money buys! Fat Fred is one of the main reasons why we're fighting against the relegation every season now and the current global financial crisis haven't helped us one bit. No, the reason we're fighting relegation is because of this current regime. They have had 4 transfer windows to improve us and are now on their 3rd manager who they have driven to another triple heart bypass. We may have been on the edge near the end of the last board, but it's this one that's deciding to push us over the edge. pathetic. point scoring to the extreme. Fine, take that part out but the point still stands. If we get relegated you can hardly blame it on the old regime. To do so would be stupid. There are a multitude of reasons why we're fighting relegation. A lot of those reasons lie with the new board, but possibly even more of them with the old one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I still wish we'd have signed Anelka instead of Owen as do most. However him under Souness would have been a nightmare. Was it Luque or Owen signed instead of Anelka? If it was Luque then Imo, we could have got Owen for cheaper. Madrid only bought him got around 8 or 9m! He was surplus to requirements and I'd say if we had clever people running the club he couldve been ours for around 13 or 14m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Summer 2004, 4 point between us. We got Rafa, you got Souness. Blame the World's Worst Manager and the idiots that hired him despite his constant, repeated failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Summer 2004, 4 point between us. We got Rafa, you got Souness. Blame the World's Worst Manager and the idiots that hired him despite his constant, repeated failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Blame the World's Worst Manager and the idiots that hired him despite his constant, repeated failure. Harsh on Rafa like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Blame the World's Worst Manager and the idiots that hired him despite his constant, repeated failure. Harsh on Rafa like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I still wish we'd have signed Anelka instead of Owen as do most. However him under Souness would have been a nightmare. Was it Luque or Owen signed instead of Anelka? If it was Luque then Imo, we could have got Owen for cheaper. Madrid only bought him got around 8 or 9m! He was surplus to requirements and I'd say if we had clever people running the club he couldve been ours for around 13 or 14m. real only got him for that price as he was coming to the last year on his contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm still yet to be convinced we didn't offer £16m just so we could say it was our record transfer taking over from Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 more down to injury than anything else,most of which could hardly have been foresaw. most of the dislike for owen comes from the fact we weren't his first choice....well heres news for you. NONE of our present squad would be here had man utd,chelsea or arsenal came a calling when they signed for us. ...which is why it's better to sign players who are hungry and on their way up, rather than players who see us as a step down but don't have any better alternatives at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 should have never brought him, we had bellamy at the time we farmed him out to celtic and then wasted 16 million this chap, all the whilst we needed strengthening in defence. oh yeah we got boumsong. up yours Souey, worst manager ever who had the best squad we ever had. We'd already sold Bellamy by the time Owen came in, and he went to Blackburn after he'd been at Celtic. Plus Owen was a replacement for Shearer not Bellamy. Owen was only a replacement for Shearer in Shepherd's eyes, i.e., one big name for another. On the pitch Owen is a totally different type of player, more suited to replacing a Bellamy type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I'm still yet to be convinced we didn't offer £16m just so we could say it was our record transfer taking over from Shearer. never thought of it like that actually, but i reckon that's probably about right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 No doubt he'll come back from his injury, score the goals to keep us up and we'll all be kissing his ass again, waiting for the next 3 games he goes without a goal to have a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I still wish we'd have signed Anelka instead of Owen as do most. However him under Souness would have been a nightmare. Was it Luque or Owen signed instead of Anelka? If it was Luque then Imo, we could have got Owen for cheaper. Madrid only bought him got around 8 or 9m! He was surplus to requirements and I'd say if we had clever people running the club he couldve been ours for around 13 or 14m. i'm sure owen was bellamy's replacement luque was robert's replacement both turned out into shocking signings and provided us with nothing compared to their replacements Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I love how people act all upset about how much money Owen has earned since being here in wages and what not as if it's coming out of their own back pocket, when in reality they couldn't give a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I still wish we'd have signed Anelka instead of Owen as do most. However him under Souness would have been a nightmare. Was it Luque or Owen signed instead of Anelka? If it was Luque then Imo, we could have got Owen for cheaper. Madrid only bought him got around 8 or 9m! He was surplus to requirements and I'd say if we had clever people running the club he couldve been ours for around 13 or 14m. i'm sure owen was bellamy's replacement luque was robert's replacement both turned out into shocking signings and provided us with nothing compared to their replacements Owen certainly wasn't Bellamy's replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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