HawK Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 What about a revisit of what KK did, the 4-3-1-2? 2 pacey players up front in Martins and Lovenkrands and Owen just behind, he chipped in with a few goals from that position I recall. Stick Guthrie in the middle with Butt and Barton (when fit) or Jonas. Basically just cutting out our midfield that can't create and just let it be, and hopefully just pace up front will allow us to catch a few teams on the break. With the tactical masterminds we currently have directing our team I'm suprised they haven't at least tried this with the players they've got available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Jonas would be in whatever happens. His workrate would be much needed in a midfield 3 with our options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Are you forgetting the goons we have picking the team and tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Not in a million years with this management team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 http://thumbnails.hulu.com/14/95/63166_512x288_generated__wd+n4W+udE+KK2S7YKwKAg.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 You mean NOT play 4-4-2?? You're mental mate, mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 the 4-3-1-2 was a lot more dependant on Viduka than some seem to think. Without that type of player in the lineup there is very little point tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Nolan will be back for the next match (for what it's worth). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Whens Guthrie back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 There's really no point to this thread since you're trying to sell the idea to us as if we'd be able to implement it in some way. The fans have suggested this formation, the pundits have suggested this formation and even some of the players have suggested this formation. We're stuck with 4-4-2 and Shola Ameobi. For what it's worth I reckon a change of formation would help and could even ease the midfield problem if implemented correctly.. but it just won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 There's really no point to this thread since you're trying to sell the idea to us as if we'd be able to implement it in some way. The fans have suggested this formation, the pundits have suggested this formation and even some of the players have suggested this formation. We're stuck with 4-4-2 and Shola Ameobi. For what it's worth I reckon a change of formation would help and could even ease the midfield problem if implemented correctly.. but it just won't happen. Exactly, flogging a dead horse, everyone see's it but those who matter. surprising the amount of times that happens isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 the 4-3-1-2 was a lot more dependant on Viduka than some seem to think. Without that type of player in the lineup there is very little point tbh. I agree 100%. He was key for that to work. Ameobi can't do that job because his positional sense is schocking. Carroll is just poor and doesn't have any sort of ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 http://thumbnails.hulu.com/14/95/63166_512x288_generated__wd+n4W+udE+KK2S7YKwKAg.jpg Bet that's identical to the Kinnear/Hughton team talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 the 4-3-1-2 was a lot more dependant on Viduka than some seem to think. Without that type of player in the lineup there is very little point tbh. I agree 100%. He was key for that to work. Ameobi can't do that job because his positional sense is schocking. Carroll is just poor and doesn't have any sort of ability. Both are here for the next three years though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 http://thumbnails.hulu.com/14/95/63166_512x288_generated__wd+n4W+udE+KK2S7YKwKAg.jpg Bet that's identical to the Kinnear/Hughton team talks. It's possible. The cavemen have the same shaped forehead as Damien Duff after all.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Whether it's a three man midfield or four man, the only way it's going to work in my opinion is if you keep the pensioner count to one at most. If Butt plays, don't play Geremi and vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 What's the point in these threads? Kinnear and Hughton (now Kinnear has influenced him with his SHOLA IS KING crap) will never chop the 4-4-2, we saw that against Stoke at home when we fucked it up by putting players in the wrong position instead of simply removing a central midfielder and playing another striker. Hughton tried the KK 4-3-3 against Hull at home and it fucking stank, because Shola was in it. The closest I've seen to a tactical change this season was the 4-6-0 we adopted away at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 What's the point in these threads? Kinnear and Hughton (now Kinnear has influenced him with his SHOLA IS KING crap) will never chop the 4-4-2, we saw that against Stoke at home when we f***ed it up by putting players in the wrong position instead of simply removing a central midfielder and playing another striker. Hughton tried the KK 4-3-3 against Hull at home and it f***ing stank, because Shola was in it. The closest I've seen to a tactical change this season was the 4-6-0 we adopted away at Chelsea. Thought this was a forum ^ ^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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