Dave Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? Not at all, but I thought it was worth floating the idea to get people thinking and possibly debating. I just have a funny feeling in the meeting that Shearer went in with some ideas, Ashley said "here's what I've been told by my financial people" and Shearer said "well here are my ideas, take it or leave it" and it kind of went downhill from there. If Shearer's "demands" were anywhere near what Ashley's restraints were I think Shearer would be our boss right now, simple as. I don't buy all of that not being able to appoint a manager before the club was sold - because Ashley knew how long it was going to take to sell the club and we could be a much more ideal club to be taken over right now if we had a proper manager in place with at least some proper direction on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" He has said a lot of things to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" He has said a lot of things to be fair I wish he fucking had, then we wouldn't be in this situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! If Shearer doesn't fancy the job under the current circumstances, then either he or Ashley should come out and say so. I don't think that to be true though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? "Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made" He has said a lot of things to be fair I wish he fucking had, then we wouldn't be in this situation Oh please explain. How him feeding us more lies would have got us out of this mess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! You don't seriously expect folks on here to say anything bad about Wor Al, do you? Or more to the point, for anyone (other than indi, perhaps) to be bold enough to suggest that maybe Ashley could see Shearer was clueless how to sort things out? fuck me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Put your handbag down, dear. I was merely following cubaricho's line of being Devil's Advocate in this instance. I blame the boredom of not knowing where the fuck we are with this whole sorry saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Put your handbag down, dear. I was merely following cubaricho's line of being Devil's Advocate in this instance. I blame the boredom of not knowing where the fuck we are with this whole sorry saga. Fair enough, I blame the anger of wanting to stove Mike Ashley's head in with a rusty claw hammer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Pity your argument falls down over the fact that what Mike Ashley knows about football wouldn't cover a postage stamp. "Ashley could see he was clueless" ffs. Have a word. Put your handbag down, dear. I was merely following cubaricho's line of being Devil's Advocate in this instance. I blame the boredom of not knowing where the fuck we are with this whole sorry saga. Fair enough, I blame the anger of wanting to stove Mike Ashley's head in with a rusty claw hammer. An anvil would be more effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 ah fuck it. I'm going to the bank for a £100,000,025.00 loan with an extremely high interest so I can secure it. a) Go to a DIY store and purchase a sturdy £25 hammer b) Approach Mike Ashley and/or Seymour Pierce and give them £100m to take the club off their hands. c) Sell the club for 60/70m to Barry Moat/whoever the fuck actually wants it and cares about rebuilding d) Track down Mike Ashley and bludgen him to death with a hammer I reckon it's definitely worth the person £40m crippling debt and 25 year prison stretch like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TêteDeMaure Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 ah f*** it. I'm going to the bank for a £100,000,025.00 loan with an extremely high interest so I can secure it. a) Go to a DIY store and purchase a sturdy £25 hammer b) Approach Mike Ashley and/or Seymour Pierce and give them £100m to take the club off their hands. c) Sell the club for 60/70m to Barry Moat/whoever the f*** actually wants it and cares about rebuilding d) Track down Mike Ashley and bludgen him to death with a hammer I reckon it's definitely worth the person £40m crippling debt and 25 year prison stretch like. You'll get 12 years and probably serve around 8. You'll have plenty of life left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 ah f*** it. I'm going to the bank for a £100,000,025.00 loan with an extremely high interest so I can secure it. a) Go to a DIY store and purchase a sturdy £25 hammer b) Approach Mike Ashley and/or Seymour Pierce and give them £100m to take the club off their hands. c) Sell the club for 60/70m to Barry Moat/whoever the f*** actually wants it and cares about rebuilding d) Track down Mike Ashley and bludgen him to death with a hammer I reckon it's definitely worth the person £40m crippling debt and 25 year prison stretch like. You'll get 12 years and probably serve around 8. You'll have plenty of life left. Tried in a Newcastle Court with a Geordie Judge, I reckon you'd get off scott free! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 ah f*** it. I'm going to the bank for a £100,000,025.00 loan with an extremely high interest so I can secure it. a) Go to a DIY store and purchase a sturdy £25 hammer b) Approach Mike Ashley and/or Seymour Pierce and give them £100m to take the club off their hands. c) Sell the club for 60/70m to Barry Moat/whoever the f*** actually wants it and cares about rebuilding d) Track down Mike Ashley and bludgen him to death with a hammer I reckon it's definitely worth the person £40m crippling debt and 25 year prison stretch like. You'll get 12 years and probably serve around 8. You'll have plenty of life left. Tried in a Newcastle Court with a Geordie Judge, I reckon you'd get off scott free! It would get put down as either self-defence or a suicide. Howay, if someone is actually looking to buy, fucking do it now while we are still capable of putting a fucking team on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 ah f*** it. I'm going to the bank for a £100,000,025.00 loan with an extremely high interest so I can secure it. a) Go to a DIY store and purchase a sturdy £25 hammer b) Approach Mike Ashley and/or Seymour Pierce and give them £100m to take the club off their hands. c) Sell the club for 60/70m to Barry Moat/whoever the f*** actually wants it and cares about rebuilding d) Track down Mike Ashley and bludgen him to death with a hammer I reckon it's definitely worth the person £40m crippling debt and 25 year prison stretch like. You'll get 12 years and probably serve around 8. You'll have plenty of life left. Tried in a Newcastle Court with a Geordie Judge, I reckon you'd get off scott free! It would get put down as either self-defence or a suicide. Howay, if someone is actually looking to buy, fucking do it now while we are still capable of putting a fucking team on the pitch. As Ashley gives a shit, he wants the £££££. Fkn prick... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Just listened to his interview. 'Its very difficult to get money in the bank at the moment' was his excuse for the reason the club hasnt been sold. I really dont understand that he said we are more or less at the signing stage. If this is true why the fuck isnt he getting someone to sign This all stinks to high heaven So far DL has said 2 bids of more than 100mil Moat is bidding but 2 further down the line He is full of shit. I cannot believe the people in the executive suite are letting this cockney prick get away with this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Has anyone ever floated the idea that maybe Shearer himself didn't fancy the rebuilding here he'd have to do? I know this is blasphemy but I am just brain-storming out-loud here. Maybe the ideas he went to Ashley with were unrealistic for a Championship level. I don't have the exact quote but I remember in an interview Shearer did he said the ideas he brought to Ashley were if we were in the Prem or not. Maybe Shearer didn't want to have to lose all of these people that we almost have to lose to balance the wage bill. Maybe he didn't want to have to do it with a bunch of loanees and youngsters and that's why him and Ashley never came to an agreement? Rip away! If Ashley manages to appoint a reputable manager under his contsraints I suppose you'll have a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I left for Cyprus 2 weeks ago and having arrived back with no further developments I am resigned the future just being about Ashley selling off every possible asset until.... well who knows what happens at the end but I am convinved a sale isnt going to happen Oh and Llambias is a cunt and should just shut the fuck up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 i'm struggling to see anything positive in this at the moment.... here's hoping we can keep performing on the pitch.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If Taylor goes, injuries to Jose and Shola and we are in a huge mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 i'm struggling to see anything positive in this at the moment.... here's hoping we can keep performing on the pitch.. The pitch performances can easily deteriorate when the players realise the squad is diminishing rapidly in quality (and quantity) and there is no prospect of constructive direction from above. Over the years the club has developed the most amazing ability to shoot itself in the foot when it sniffs anything like a hint of a positive situation. And Ashley is more than capable of carrying that legacy on and screwing up a decent chance to bounce back to the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The pitch performances can easily deteriorate when the players realise the squad is diminishing rapidly in quality (and quantity) and there is no prospect of constructive direction from above. The pitch performances WILL deteriorate when the players realise the squad is diminishing rapidly in quality (and quantity) and there is no prospect of constructive direction from above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_5503819,00.html New bid for Magpies launched Fans could run club in proposed new deal Last updated: 20th August 2009 Former professional footballer Graham Roberts is at the forefront of a project that could see Newcastle United run by its own fans. Current owner Mike Ashley is looking to sell, with Tyneside-based business man Barry Moat the most likely candidate to buy the Magpies. But Roberts, along with a group called Fanbase 410, has launched a rival bid which will involve Newcastle fans making a personal investment in the club. The consortium recently met with Newcastle directors as well as prominent members of the supporters' trust and Roberts has been encouraged by the talks. He said: "It was a positive meeting. Now we will sit down with the supporters. They want to run their own football club, and why not? "I just work for the company that is putting this together. Newcastle supporters will pick their own president and the manager. "It's the same at Barcelona and Real Madrid. You never know, they could end up buying £60 million or £70 million players. It works for Barcelona, why not Newcastle United?" Barcelona is owned by its 108,000 club members while Real Madrid are polled every four years on the club's direction. Although Roberts was reluctant to reveal exactly how the proposed system at Newcastle would work, it is thought Fanbase will pay their members annual dividends. A spokesperson for the Newcastle United Supporters Trust says that further talks with Fanbase 410 will take place. "The principle of the Trust is to give the fans an active and real say in the running of their club," the spokesperson said. "We have met with Fanbase and we are in initial discussions about how their model works and discussions will continue." Fucking hell. And people wonder why we're an utter laughing stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 even llambias doesnt take them credibly they are obviously a bunch of attention seekers and what does sky do, give them exactly what they want, attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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