Dave Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Tbh IF that story is true (and I doubt it is - reads like more column-filling to explain the lack of official news), it can only be a good thing. If it is true (as if) it’s a long winded way of saying the parties can’t agree a price. If they want it and Ashley wants to sell then a compromise will be found, it's just a matter of time. The worry is how long that will be, but there's a trade off for the buyer between the club's value depreciating over time and the amount of work being too much. Again, if there is a serious buyer that is close to meeting the asking price I remain pretty positive about it all for now. Time is running out though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fading star Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Like the time Ashley wanted Keegan to come back, and Keegan wanted to return, so a compromise was inevitably reached. Does Ashey do compromise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Er, I already qualified my statement. If Ashley is serious about selling (and you apparently don't believe he is?) then he'll have to. Nobody is going to pitch up and say 'here's your £100m, no questions asked'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fading star Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Er, I already qualified my statement. If Ashley is serious about selling (and you apparently don't believe he is?) then he'll have to. Nobody is going to pitch up and say 'here's your £100m, no questions asked'. Ashley wants to sell, but I fear he lacks the rationality to accept a realistic price. The obsessive level of confidentiality concerns me as well, as does this line about Ashley not knowing who the bidders are. Bit odd all round, the sale of the club is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Er, I already qualified my statement. If Ashley is serious about selling (and you apparently don't believe he is?) then he'll have to. Nobody is going to pitch up and say 'here's your £100m, no questions asked'. Yup dam true, as I don't have £100mill to give the cunt to fk off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Er, I already qualified my statement. If Ashley is serious about selling (and you apparently don't believe he is?) then he'll have to. Nobody is going to pitch up and say 'here's your £100m, no questions asked'. Yup dam true, as I don't have £100mill to give the cunt to fk off. Plus you're not as thick as Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If they are a financial investment firm every penny musy be scrutnize and it makes sense why the deal is very slow.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Er, I already qualified my statement. If Ashley is serious about selling (and you apparently don't believe he is?) then he'll have to. Nobody is going to pitch up and say 'here's your £100m, no questions asked'. Yup dam true, as I don't have £100mill to give the c*** to fk off. Plus you're not as thick as Mike Ashley. Well thats not hard though really. But I swaer to god if I had it I would pay him it to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Even if someone goes through every single detail, there's always going to be a high element of risk in buying a football club. The income is to a large part determined by results on the pitch, and that will always be uncertain. It's why I'm a little unsure about these so-called consortiums, especially if finance companies are involved. An owner of a football club can never rely on getting a return on their investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Someone please wake me up when the club is sold. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Has anyone got examples of when a consortium has worked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Someone please wake me up when the club is sold. Thanks. The way things are going you could fall into a coma and wake up 3 years later, finding that the club still hasn't been sold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Has anyone got examples of when a consortium has worked? That Only Fools & Horses "Chaingang" episode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Has anyone got examples of when a consortium has worked? Sunderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Has anyone got examples of when a consortium has worked? Sunderland? I suppose, in terms of championship success, but they have one owner now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Could this be the hold up http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2009/07/12/owen-still-costing-magpies-50-000-per-week-79310-24131441/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Has anyone got examples of when a consortium has worked? Sunderland? I suppose, in terms of championship success, but they have one owner now Because the members of the consortium had a deal that they would sell the club after 3 or 5 years, cant remember.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 And Shearer is now hopeful of decisive movement this week on the Toon’s tortuous takeover saga. At least three of the four groups in the running to buy United would want Shearer as manager. One bidder, former Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd, flies back to Tyneside from Mallorca today also expecting developments before next weekend. Having gone public with their bid, the Singapore-based Profitable Group also await a firm response from Seymour Pierce, the investment bank overseeing the sale process. And although the identity of the supposedly Malaysian consortium in the running remains uncertain, it is not the first time Newcastle have attracted buy-out interest from that corner of South East Asia. Malaysia’s former Minister of Finance, Tun Daim Zainuddin, looked into the prospect of buying United several years ago. Known simply as Daim, the 70-year-old – estimated to be worth around £6.3 billion – spends much of the year in London and has a confirmed interest in English football. Sunday sun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Could this be the hold up http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2009/07/12/owen-still-costing-magpies-50-000-per-week-79310-24131441/ And some people want the person who sorted all these contracts out back in charge of the club. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Could this be the hold up http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2009/07/12/owen-still-costing-magpies-50-000-per-week-79310-24131441/ And some people want the person who sorted all these contracts out back in charge of the club. Jesus. Its a rule man, and not in his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Has anyone got examples of when a consortium has worked? Sunderland? I suppose, in terms of championship success, but they have one owner now I think there's something about football clubs which lends itself to individual rather than collective ownership or control. Even in situations where there is joint ownership (eg the Shepherd era) one leader tends to emerge, with the rest taking a back seat. It's not just the financial aspect, but the speed with which decisions have to be made and large amounts of money spent. Liverpool is a prime example where joint leadership has been a bit of a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Could this be the hold up http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2009/07/12/owen-still-costing-magpies-50-000-per-week-79310-24131441/ And some people want the person who sorted all these contracts out back in charge of the club. Jesus. Its a rule man, and not in his contract. Do we know that as fact though, that it is a Premier League rule? Not sure myself. Sunday Sun is hardly a paragon of truth is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordie Boyo Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 ...depressing...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Could this be the hold up http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2009/07/12/owen-still-costing-magpies-50-000-per-week-79310-24131441/ And some people want the person who sorted all these contracts out back in charge of the club. Jesus. Its a rule man, and not in his contract. There's no rule to say you continue to pay some part of a players wages when they leave the club. Sounds to me like yet another fantasy story from the sunday rags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sid1984 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I hate quoting Football Manager but if you have a player whose contract expires, you get a choice to release him on a free or keep them on a month to month contract. If you do nothing on the game they automatically stay on a month to month contract. With the farce that is going on at the club, if our 'Football Secretary' has not relinquished Owen's registration he would still be classed as our player to pay for a further month. So unless we officially released him and Cacapa and Viduka at the end of the season we might have to keep paying them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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