Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 i am quitely confident this has got legs same, since im pretty sure a double loan signing from man u fell through for no reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I will wait and see would love to believe it but lets be honest its been "done" for the last month and going to be announced every friday only for nothing to happen. Fingers Crossed though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 i am quitely confident this has got legs same, since im pretty sure a double loan signing from man u fell through for no reason Don't we already have Simpson on loan? So we couldn't have loaned more than one more player from Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Official site now back up running & with an all new look & no new owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 all i know is cathcart was looked at, and macheda was also being talked about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 The deal is done with Sheards 'group'. It will be announced tomorrow morning. I believe ya, I believe ya, I surely do . . . B E E E L I E V E . . . !!!! (ya). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 The yanks hav employed a top communication firm as part of their bid according to the chronicle. Surely the best way to communicate is through the website. I reckon they are updating it as we speak Some of the comments are real funny. No one develop a site to announce the take over so chill out. They are saying we are sold by X mas that c*** Harris. He said by the end of the month in June nothing happen end of the month for Agust as well. I hate those liers about everything...... Annoucing a takeover via website redesign, genius marketing. Ethi, man fix your quotes - you must have jumbled stuff together b/c I never said that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pont-toon Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 David your normally quite credible i hope you havnt ruined your reputation! he hasn't aha Redheugh there you are whats the latest crack in your world then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 all i know is cathcart was looked at, and macheda was also being talked about Don't believe Ferguson would have even considered loaning out Macheda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 "By the way...It was a complete lie about the takeover" http://i29.tinypic.com/s45jec.jpg It was on my part anyway. Why? Whey, i'm a cunt. It's okay though. Our favourite ITK has assured us that while bullshitting I actually stumbled across the truth. Funny that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I've read most of the 547 pages of shite in this thread and i have no idea what any of that post means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 All we're banking on is the club becoming attractive enough to become a rich man's plaything and him having more money than sense. We are currently wanting rid of one... Way more money than sense, we need a wealthy man/group with a level head and an fantastic brain for business. No one with a fantastic brain for business would pay £100m for NUFC, therein lies the problem. Don't agree, as long as its £100m all in its a good deal for anyone with a decent head for business and an idea about Football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 My supply of hope of a sale has been completely ran dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 My supply of hope of a sale has been completely ran dry. No problem, just go and buy another bottle of hope, or as I call it Jack Daniels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 "By the way...It was a complete lie about the takeover" http://i29.tinypic.com/s45jec.jpg It was on my part anyway. Why? Whey, i'm a c***. It's okay though. Our favourite ITK has assured us that while bullshitting I actually stumbled across the truth. Funny that. Mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 "By the way...It was a complete lie about the takeover" http://i29.tinypic.com/s45jec.jpg It was on my part anyway. Why? Whey, i'm a cunt. It's okay though. Our favourite ITK has assured us that while bullshitting I actually stumbled across the truth. Funny that. Fucking hell. The craic on here is normally class but this thread is shite. Loser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wish we could just lock this and forbid any mention of the word "takeover" anywhere on this forum. Here's my bit of ITK information: We're never going to be taken over. Ever. Ashley will be here until he dies of old age, after which he'll rise again as an undead lord and rule over us until the sun burns out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wish we could just lock this and forbid any mention of the word "takeover" anywhere on this forum. Here's my bit of ITK information: We're never going to be taken over. Ever. Ashley will be here until he dies of old age, after which he'll rise again as an undead lord and rule over us until the sun burns out. Source?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wish we could just lock this and forbid any mention of the word "takeover" anywhere on this forum. Here's my bit of ITK information: We're never going to be taken over. Ever. Ashley will be here until he dies of old age, after which he'll rise again as an undead lord and rule over us until the sun burns out. Source?? I can't reveal it, let's just say i have friends in really high places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I think a major difficulty is it's hard to put a value on our club at the moment. If we'd reached rock bottom and the only way was up, or if we were in a healthy, stable position in the Premiership, it'd be easier to set a price. As it is, no-one can be sure if there's not further decline ahead which will prove a financial drain on a new owner. Particularly in the current financial climate, caution is the byword. Obviously if we do get promoted, £100 million will be a ridiculous bargain for a debt-free Premiership club with the third largest ground in the country. If we get promoted £100m price tags will be a distant memory On what basis though? What is a football club worth? As a business it's worth nothing if it doesn't make any money and very few clubs can do that on a sustainable basis. All we're banking on is the club becoming attractive enough to become a rich man's plaything and him having more money than sense. You are joking right? If we got promoted income would almost double for a start, Ashley would point to lower costs with wages etc and the club has a reasonable base to start again. If you put your house up for £100k and the property market boomed by 30% would you ignore it and let someone else get the benefit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You are joking right? If we got promoted income would almost double for a start, Ashley would point to lower costs with wages etc and the club has a reasonable base to start again. If you put your house up for £100k and the property market boomed by 30% would you ignore it and let someone else get the benefit? If your house was worth £50k and you wanted £100k, then the market went up 30%, it would still be overpriced. I'm failing to see the justification for the price- so what if revenue doubles? The club has had huge inflows for years, and managed to spend even more. If we went up, we'd need investment to survive. If you want to be getting decent results and not just scraping then this will require further investment. There's your base. How would an investor get his money back? Where is the decent return on what would likely be £150m+ to buy a stable Premiership club? We make a loss and have done for years. A lot of this is down to mismanagement, but a lot is simply down to the fact that football is a rotten investment. To sustainably generate £10-15m of profit to justify that sort of investment seems very ambitious. Would fans be happy if transfers were modest while the shareholders took out that sort of cash on an annual basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You are joking right? If we got promoted income would almost double for a start, Ashley would point to lower costs with wages etc and the club has a reasonable base to start again. If you put your house up for £100k and the property market boomed by 30% would you ignore it and let someone else get the benefit? If your house was worth £50k and you wanted £100k, then the market went up 30%, it would still be overpriced. I'm failing to see the justification for the price- so what if revenue doubles? The club has had huge inflows for years, and managed to spend even more. If we went up, we'd need investment to survive. If you want to be getting decent results and not just scraping then this will require further investment. There's your base. How would an investor get his money back? Where is the decent return on what would likely be £150m+ to buy a stable Premiership club? We make a loss and have done for years. A lot of this is down to mismanagement, but a lot is simply down to the fact that football is a rotten investment. To sustainably generate £10-15m of profit to justify that sort of investment seems very ambitious. Would fans be happy if transfers were modest while the shareholders took out that sort of cash on an annual basis? Justification for the price? You think the stadium is worthless? Training ground/academy worthless? How many people have paid for players that we havent seen money for yet? What about goodwill, sure the club isnt looking too rosey financially but its repairable for anyone with real business acumen. Liverpool was bought for about £400m and they still need a further £400m for a ground, hence they are going to be in debt for decades. £100m for a club which in all honesty is only a bit of depth away from walking this league isnt too far a stretch given the obvious advantages should you regain promotion. The club debts are by and large a result of gross mismanagement and downright stupidity, any new buyer who sees this and makes the right decisions and appointments can change all that. We all hate Ashley here but if he sold for £50m can you justifiably say thats a fair price when promotion and limited spending would claw that fee back in 18 months even in a eventual relegation. We could well have ended up with another schmuck on for a quick profit at that price... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You are joking right? If we got promoted income would almost double for a start, Ashley would point to lower costs with wages etc and the club has a reasonable base to start again. If you put your house up for £100k and the property market boomed by 30% would you ignore it and let someone else get the benefit? If your house was worth £50k and you wanted £100k, then the market went up 30%, it would still be overpriced. I'm failing to see the justification for the price- so what if revenue doubles? The club has had huge inflows for years, and managed to spend even more. If we went up, we'd need investment to survive. If you want to be getting decent results and not just scraping then this will require further investment. There's your base. How would an investor get his money back? Where is the decent return on what would likely be £150m+ to buy a stable Premiership club? We make a loss and have done for years. A lot of this is down to mismanagement, but a lot is simply down to the fact that football is a rotten investment. To sustainably generate £10-15m of profit to justify that sort of investment seems very ambitious. Would fans be happy if transfers were modest while the shareholders took out that sort of cash on an annual basis? Justification for the price? You think the stadium is worthless? Training ground/academy worthless? How many people have paid for players that we havent seen money for yet? What about goodwill, sure the club isnt looking too rosey financially but its repairable for anyone with real business acumen. Liverpool was bought for about £400m and they still need a further £400m for a ground, hence they are going to be in debt for decades. £100m for a club which in all honesty is only a bit of depth away from walking this league isnt too far a stretch given the obvious advantages should you regain promotion. The club debts are by and large a result of gross mismanagement and downright stupidity, any new buyer who sees this and makes the right decisions and appointments can change all that. We all hate Ashley here but if he sold for £50m can you justifiably say thats a fair price when promotion and limited spending would claw that fee back in 18 months even in a eventual relegation. We could well have ended up with another schmuck on for a quick profit at that price... newcastle do not own their stadium, so to the club it is worthless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Dont own the land, the building on top we do. Unless the stadium fairies presented us with a 52k ground for free? Wouldnt have had £68m mortgage otherwise would we? Your point makes no sense, as the stadium is anything but worthless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You are joking right? If we got promoted income would almost double for a start, Ashley would point to lower costs with wages etc and the club has a reasonable base to start again. If you put your house up for £100k and the property market boomed by 30% would you ignore it and let someone else get the benefit? If your house was worth £50k and you wanted £100k, then the market went up 30%, it would still be overpriced. I'm failing to see the justification for the price- so what if revenue doubles? The club has had huge inflows for years, and managed to spend even more. If we went up, we'd need investment to survive. If you want to be getting decent results and not just scraping then this will require further investment. There's your base. How would an investor get his money back? Where is the decent return on what would likely be £150m+ to buy a stable Premiership club? We make a loss and have done for years. A lot of this is down to mismanagement, but a lot is simply down to the fact that football is a rotten investment. To sustainably generate £10-15m of profit to justify that sort of investment seems very ambitious. Would fans be happy if transfers were modest while the shareholders took out that sort of cash on an annual basis? Justification for the price? You think the stadium is worthless? Training ground/academy worthless? How many people have paid for players that we havent seen money for yet? What about goodwill, sure the club isnt looking too rosey financially but its repairable for anyone with real business acumen. Liverpool was bought for about £400m and they still need a further £400m for a ground, hence they are going to be in debt for decades. £100m for a club which in all honesty is only a bit of depth away from walking this league isnt too far a stretch given the obvious advantages should you regain promotion. The club debts are by and large a result of gross mismanagement and downright stupidity, any new buyer who sees this and makes the right decisions and appointments can change all that. We all hate Ashley here but if he sold for £50m can you justifiably say thats a fair price when promotion and limited spending would claw that fee back in 18 months even in a eventual relegation. We could well have ended up with another schmuck on for a quick profit at that price... newcastle do not own their stadium, so to the club it is worthless. We're paying for the stadium development at the moment, so we must own something. Its the land on which it is built that we dont own i believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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