Ketsbaia Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Micah Richards will be chuffed at this news. Whoever is in charge for the Euros needs to be brave enough to pick players that end the season strongly instead of sticking with Downing, Glen Johnson, Barry and possibly Ferdinand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Arry will be in by the Euro's we all know that. Then it's......Hart, Walker, Dawson, Ferdinand, Cole, Walcott, Parker ©, Milner, Lennon, Rooney, Crouch/Defoe Got to make space for Joe Cole and Carrick, proper players they are, Harry's known them since they were 12. Also, tough call between Walker and Glen Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Arry will be in by the Euro's we all know that. Then it's......Hart, Walker, Dawson, Ferdinand, Cole, Walcott, Parker ©, Milner, Lennon, Rooney, Crouch/Defoe Got to make space for Joe Cole and Carrick, proper players they are, Harry's known them since they were 12. Also, tough call between Walker and Glen Johnson. 'Triffic lads and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Infact we've only ever beaten 5 teams at the knockout stages abroad: Paraguay, Belgium (a.e.t), Cameroon (a.e.t), Denmark and Ecuador. Being knocked out twice in games where ManUre players were sent off for petty retaliation doesn't help. When it comes to big games, the margins are fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Just found this whilst job hunting: http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSeeking/England-Football-Manager---London-Wembley-Travel-Required_job52827388 Location: Wembley (HA9) , Wembley Salary: Above market + Performance Bonuses + Travel Date posted: 09/02/2012 09:24 Job type:Permanent Company: Guru Resourcing Contact: Guru Careers Ref: Totaljobs/RH\000EFM Job ID: 52827388 ENGLAND FOOTBALL MANAGER - LONDON (WEMBLEY – TRAVEL REQUIRED) We are seeking a proven Club Manager / International Manager / Head Coach possessing that win-at-all-costs mentality to take up a high profile, public facing Football Management role with the national team. Read on... Founded in 1863 this award winning (Jules Rimet – 1966) football association head up all regulatory aspects of the game of football in England. Their aim is to deliver an effective and professional organisation for the greater good of English football. A rare opportunity has now arisen to lead the national playing team on the eve of a major international tournament. Reporting directly to the Senior Management team the England Football Manager will be at the very forefront of football decision making, whether it be selecting the first team for match day, performing team reviews (including disciplinary actions) or managing the expectations of a nation. In more detail you will... Succeed in a major international tournament (quarter finals or above). Beat Germany. Find a way of integrating experienced midfielders so they can perform together. Implement a plan A playing formation (4-4-2, although others will be considered). Implement a plan B playing formation (this should include penalties). Work closely with Journalists to ensure brilliant positive PR is achieved. To qualify… We want to hear from highly organised, energetic and motivated football people with a distinct ability to get make the most of the playing resources available. It is not essential that you possess previous international management experience as on the job training is offered, however, you must demonstrate a background of achieving at club level as a Manager, Translator, Caretaker, Director of Football or similar. Understanding the beautiful game from grass roots level upwards, you should be the type of person who thrives under pressure and is totally at home in the public eye, whether this is at an official interview or street heckling. Joining a high pressured yet rewarding working environment, our client invests heavily in staff development with great benefits to match, including: Extensive “paid for” travel (wags included); expansive, state-of-the-art, new office location; excellent holiday entitlement; free entry to all football games (and some concerts) and a globally competitive salary. Please note: We are particularly interested in hearing from English Club Managers with exemplary tax histories currently occupying a top 3 Premier League position. Previous applicants need not apply. Get in touch... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Infact we've only ever beaten 5 teams at the knockout stages abroad: Paraguay, Belgium (a.e.t), Cameroon (a.e.t), Denmark and Ecuador. Being knocked out twice in games where ManUre players were sent off for petty retaliation doesn't help. When it comes to big games, the margins are fine. The margins are fine in games, but not over a 62 year period. The fact that we've lost to every top tier team we've come up against on neutral territory in the latter stages is pretty conclusive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Infact we've only ever beaten 5 teams at the knockout stages abroad: Paraguay, Belgium (a.e.t), Cameroon (a.e.t), Denmark and Ecuador. Being knocked out twice in games where ManUre players were sent off for petty retaliation doesn't help. When it comes to big games, the margins are fine. that stat right? that can't be fucking right surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If Sven was a failure we've only had one manager who wasn't. Sir Bobby and Venables got the semis, but Euro 88 was a farce and Venables had the advantage of playing every game at Wembley. We've only won 3 knockout games in normal time since the 60's, against Denmark, Paraguay and Ecuador, two of those were under Sven. We're no footballing power, getting to the quarters consistently away from home is well above our average. Was gonna say, fucking hell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Just found this whilst job hunting: http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSeeking/England-Football-Manager---London-Wembley-Travel-Required_job52827388 Location: Wembley (HA9) , Wembley Salary: Above market + Performance Bonuses + Travel Date posted: 09/02/2012 09:24 Job type:Permanent Company: Guru Resourcing Contact: Guru Careers Ref: Totaljobs/RH\000EFM Job ID: 52827388 ENGLAND FOOTBALL MANAGER - LONDON (WEMBLEY – TRAVEL REQUIRED) We are seeking a proven Club Manager / International Manager / Head Coach possessing that win-at-all-costs mentality to take up a high profile, public facing Football Management role with the national team. Read on... Founded in 1863 this award winning (Jules Rimet – 1966) football association head up all regulatory aspects of the game of football in England. Their aim is to deliver an effective and professional organisation for the greater good of English football. A rare opportunity has now arisen to lead the national playing team on the eve of a major international tournament. Reporting directly to the Senior Management team the England Football Manager will be at the very forefront of football decision making, whether it be selecting the first team for match day, performing team reviews (including disciplinary actions) or managing the expectations of a nation. In more detail you will... Succeed in a major international tournament (quarter finals or above). Beat Germany. Find a way of integrating experienced midfielders so they can perform together. Implement a plan A playing formation (4-4-2, although others will be considered). Implement a plan B playing formation (this should include penalties). Work closely with Journalists to ensure brilliant positive PR is achieved. To qualify… We want to hear from highly organised, energetic and motivated football people with a distinct ability to get make the most of the playing resources available. It is not essential that you possess previous international management experience as on the job training is offered, however, you must demonstrate a background of achieving at club level as a Manager, Translator, Caretaker, Director of Football or similar. Understanding the beautiful game from grass roots level upwards, you should be the type of person who thrives under pressure and is totally at home in the public eye, whether this is at an official interview or street heckling. Joining a high pressured yet rewarding working environment, our client invests heavily in staff development with great benefits to match, including: Extensive “paid for” travel (wags included); expansive, state-of-the-art, new office location; excellent holiday entitlement; free entry to all football games (and some concerts) and a globally competitive salary. Please note: We are particularly interested in hearing from English Club Managers with exemplary tax histories currently occupying a top 3 Premier League position. Previous applicants need not apply. Get in touch... Nice Good effort from whoever wrote that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Just found this whilst job hunting: http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSeeking/England-Football-Manager---London-Wembley-Travel-Required_job52827388 Location: Wembley (HA9) , Wembley Salary: Above market + Performance Bonuses + Travel Date posted: 09/02/2012 09:24 Job type:Permanent Company: Guru Resourcing Contact: Guru Careers Ref: Totaljobs/RH\000EFM Job ID: 52827388 ENGLAND FOOTBALL MANAGER - LONDON (WEMBLEY – TRAVEL REQUIRED) We are seeking a proven Club Manager / International Manager / Head Coach possessing that win-at-all-costs mentality to take up a high profile, public facing Football Management role with the national team. Read on... Founded in 1863 this award winning (Jules Rimet – 1966) football association head up all regulatory aspects of the game of football in England. Their aim is to deliver an effective and professional organisation for the greater good of English football. A rare opportunity has now arisen to lead the national playing team on the eve of a major international tournament. Reporting directly to the Senior Management team the England Football Manager will be at the very forefront of football decision making, whether it be selecting the first team for match day, performing team reviews (including disciplinary actions) or managing the expectations of a nation. In more detail you will... Succeed in a major international tournament (quarter finals or above). Beat Germany. Find a way of integrating experienced midfielders so they can perform together. Implement a plan A playing formation (4-4-2, although others will be considered). Implement a plan B playing formation (this should include penalties). Work closely with Journalists to ensure brilliant positive PR is achieved. To qualify… We want to hear from highly organised, energetic and motivated football people with a distinct ability to get make the most of the playing resources available. It is not essential that you possess previous international management experience as on the job training is offered, however, you must demonstrate a background of achieving at club level as a Manager, Translator, Caretaker, Director of Football or similar. Understanding the beautiful game from grass roots level upwards, you should be the type of person who thrives under pressure and is totally at home in the public eye, whether this is at an official interview or street heckling. Joining a high pressured yet rewarding working environment, our client invests heavily in staff development with great benefits to match, including: Extensive “paid for” travel (wags included); expansive, state-of-the-art, new office location; excellent holiday entitlement; free entry to all football games (and some concerts) and a globally competitive salary. Please note: We are particularly interested in hearing from English Club Managers with exemplary tax histories currently occupying a top 3 Premier League position. Previous applicants need not apply. Get in touch... good thing I've been touching up my CV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hart, Richards, Jones, Smalling, Cole, Parker, Wilshere, Ox, Rooney, Sturridge, Bent. Would be the way forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Darren Bent Such a paucity of genuine quality forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 He scores goals, its that simple. I'm not his biggest fan but if you want a goalscorer, I don't think there is anyone better. The only other person I would have up there is Welbeck because he plays with Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Bent is a great goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I just want a manager who will come in, pretty much write of the Euro's, take a team that will be going to the World Cup and stick with a squad of youth up until 2014 bar any injuries or dramatic dips in form/class. Something along the lines of: Hart, Richards, Cahill, Jones, Cole, Oxo, Wilshere, Cleverley, Walcott, Rooney Sturridge. Jones has looked poor at CB whenever i've seen him. Would have Smalling ahead of him. Cole is the only "Oldie" i'd take too. The drop off in quality in LB is stark imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 England need a better team player playing upfront than Darren Bent. He's not as good at this level to compensate his lack of overall quality. Even as a sub, i'd have Defoe ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Bent is a great goalscorer. Goalscorers are pointless at international level because they dont participate in the build up and you just get outmatched in midfield. Not all goalscorers but the one likes Bent and Hernandez are pointless. I'd go with Hart Richards Smalling Jones Cole Wilshere Parker Cleverly Sturridge Rooney Ox Form and fitness permitting ofcourse, btw dont rate Cahill and Cole will be very difficult to replace long term; quite frankly dont see anyone ready to step into his rather large shoes. BTW Jones hasnt impressed me that much either but i dont rate anyone below Smalling and Jones, the quality of CB's are poor imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 He's not even a great goalscorer. Misses loads of chances and needs pens to boost himself up to the 15 goal mark every season. England have had plenty of great goalscorers over the years who have struggled to forge careers at international level, the fact somebody as poor as Bent is a shoe in for squads is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Wolves v West Brom (1330 GMT) This is an interesting one - Wolves had a good result last week at long last when they beat QPR, while West Brom seem to pick up the majority of their points on the road. Wolves had to wait a long time to return to winning ways in the Premier League and maybe the ball will start to run for them a little bit now. They have had some bad news that Emmanuel Frimpong is out for so long with a knee ligament injury but I think having Kevin Doyle back scoring goals is very important for their survival. The thing with Wolves boss Mick Mcarthy last week was that he gambled. When he made his substitution to bring Doyle on at half-time against QPR, it was an attacking change and it gave them more of a cutting edge. Maybe he will be thinking about doing that more often now. It is going to be Wolves' home form that keeps them up and this is definitely a home game they would look at as a must-win. Prediction: 2-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I may be seeing something no one else has but I've think Jones has been bloody brilliant when at centre back this season for Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Bent is a great goalscorer. Goalscorers are pointless at international level because they dont participate in the build up and you just get outmatched in midfield. Not all goalscorers but the one likes Bent and Hernandez are pointless. I'd go with Hart Richards Smalling Jones Cole Wilshere Parker Cleverly Sturridge Rooney Ox Form and fitness permitting ofcourse, btw dont rate Cahill and Cole will be very difficult to replace long term; quite frankly dont see anyone ready to step into his rather large shoes. BTW Jones hasnt impressed me that much either but i dont rate anyone below Smalling and Jones, the quality of CB's are poor imo. That's a nice team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I may be seeing something no one else has but I've think Jones has been bloody brilliant when at centre back this season for Man Utd yes I think your on your own there because whenever I've seen him he's been a big liability at cb for Man U Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Jones has been, at best, average at CB this season. He's still young though so has plenty of time to learn and develop. Smalling has been somewhat better but he's also far from the finished article. I'm pretty sure that in the future, the first choice CB partnership for England will be Jones-Smalling but think the Euros will be too soon for them (I reckon the time to implement such a partnership should be after the Euros actually). Having said that, doesn't look like we have many options at CB. Perhaps give the likes of Dawson, King (unlikely due to his knee), Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka runouts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Jones has been, at best, average at CB this season. He's still young though so has plenty of time to learn and develop. Smalling has been somewhat better but he's also far from the finished article. I'm pretty sure that in the future, the first choice CB partnership for England will be Jones-Smalling but think the Euros will be too soon for them (I reckon the time to implement such a partnership should be after the Euros actually). Having said that, doesn't look like we have many options at CB. Perhaps give the likes of Dawson, King (unlikely due to his knee), Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka runouts? I probably agree, my post was mainly seen as the long term but not necessarily on just the Euros but having said that Cole would'nt be there but quite frankly i cant think of any LB...... Infact id put Cole in a wheelchair over the likes of Baines and Gibbs, hoping for the countries sake that someone comes along and proves the likes of me wrong...... As the Euro's go i question who from that team would be ready..... Jones and Smalling are not ready imo and neither is Ox as great as he's done so far i question whether he's ready for the very top level..... Obviously there are question marks of Wilshere and Cleverly's fitness. I personally would right off the Euro's totally, and just build for 2014 and beyond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Jones has been, at best, average at CB this season. He's still young though so has plenty of time to learn and develop. Smalling has been somewhat better but he's also far from the finished article. I'm pretty sure that in the future, the first choice CB partnership for England will be Jones-Smalling but think the Euros will be too soon for them (I reckon the time to implement such a partnership should be after the Euros actually). Having said that, doesn't look like we have many options at CB. Perhaps give the likes of Dawson, King (unlikely due to his knee), Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka runouts? I probably agree, my post was mainly seen as the long term but not necessarily on just the Euros but having said that Cole would'nt be there but quite frankly i cant think of any LB...... Infact id put Cole in a wheelchair over the likes of Baines and Gibbs, hoping for the countries sake that someone comes along and proves the likes of me wrong...... As the Euro's go i question who from that team would be ready..... Jones and Smalling are not ready imo and neither is Ox as great as he's done so far i question whether he's ready for the very top level..... Obviously there are question marks of Wilshere and Cleverly's fitness. I personally would right off the Euro's totally, and just build for 2014 and beyond. I'd definitely have Cole at LB for the Euros and beyond too. Not only is he England's best option for LB these days, he has also been England's most consistent performer for the last 10 years or so (still a c*** though). The likes of Baines and others are decent enough backups but they're simply up to Cole's level (yet). If Oxlade-Chamberlain continues to perform well for Arsenal (he has looked really promising from what I've seen), can definitely see him being picked for this summer's squad. Might even have a chance of starting imo, could even take Walcott's place - Theo's career/development has somewhat stalled. Hmmm. Mind you, I'm foolishly holding out hope that all is not lost with the Euros for us this summer Btw, I do like the look of your long-term line up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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