Dave Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 So we've fallen to 20th in the world rankings, behind Bosnia-Herzegovina, Costa Rica and the yanks. Well done guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Can't work out whether its a shame or a good thing England's EC group is unbelievably shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I'd guess not many tabloid hacks would argue Gerrard and Upson wouldn't make those mistakes half a dozen times in their career. I'm a fan of Wilson but that bit did make me laugh, albeit I see his point about it being a random mistake rather than a tactical error. He does correctly point to gerrard not being very good as a defensive midfielder as to why england were shit which is accurate. Mind Wilson's best talking about some odd bulgarian tactical innovation in 1972 that changed the face of european football or something, he's not the best writer in the world and when writing about boring subjects that are written about to death like England it shows a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Gerrard announces his retirement. Fair play. Right time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Sensible decision. 3rd most capped player too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Slightly late imo, but I'm probably nitpicking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thank fuck for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thank fuck for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Think Cahill should get the captaincy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Farewell Hollywood ball man, wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Rooney new captain. Right choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Gerrard announces his retirement. Fair play. Right time. Atleast 2 years too late. As much as 4 years imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So who are England's two central midfielders now? Henderson and Wilshere?! Yikes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lallana, Barkley..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 England needs someone physically imposing, athletic with a good passing range to partner any of those players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So who are England's two central midfielders now? Henderson and Wilshere?! Yikes. We'll qualify for the Euros regardless now the whole of Europe basically gets to join in. They need international experience. All the young lads do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 We need a 3 man midfield, that doesn't involve Wilshere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Gerrard announces his retirement. Fair play. Right time. Atleast 2 years too late. As much as 4 years imo. I never understand such comments about international retirement. He is a once great and still very good player that made himself available for selection. There was no contractual obligation to pick and start him continuously. Lallana, Barkley..... I'm interested to see what sort of player Barkley will be molded into, someone more attacking, or one dictating from further back. He's a rough, uncut diamond and an extraordinary talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I hope Barkley becomes a proper midfielder, rather than one that is best behind the striker scoring goals, I think the latter will happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Yeah well said Baba. Gerrard was still England's best performer up to quite recently and only a poor World Cup has tainted that. He's going to look back at his International career on the whole and think that he's been an ok England player but could've been better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I hope Barkley becomes a proper midfielder, rather than one that is best behind the striker scoring goals, I think the latter will happen though. What's a proper midfielder though? We suffered for years trying to fit too many proper midfielders into the side. Barkley is exactly the sort of player England have been missing, I would put him in the side first and let the proper midfielders fight it out for the remaining spots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Gerrard announces his retirement. Fair play. Right time. Atleast 2 years too late. As much as 4 years imo. I never understand such comments about international retirement. He is a once great and still very good player that made himself available for selection. There was no contractual obligation to pick and start him continuously. Lallana, Barkley..... I'm interested to see what sort of player Barkley will be molded into, someone more attacking, or one dictating from further back. He's a rough, uncut diamond and an extraordinary talent. I said this after WC10 - we needed to move on from the likes of Gerrard. In the last 4 years we haven't really done anything that has justified having Gerrard and the like consistently starting for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 England needs someone physically imposing, athletic with a good passing range to partner any of those players. ie Barkley in 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I hope Barkley becomes a proper midfielder, rather than one that is best behind the striker scoring goals, I think the latter will happen though. What's a proper midfielder though? We suffered for years trying to fit too many proper midfielders into the side. Barkley is exactly the sort of player England have been missing, I would put him in the side first and let the proper midfielders fight it out for the remaining spots. I don't agree, we were trying to fit Gerrard and Lampard into the side, both are far better as goalscoring midfielders than as CM's that can read the game and control the midfield. I see England having similar problems in the future, we seem to like having a striker and 3 behind him, but too many of them play in the same area's. We want Sturridge as striker, though he drifts around too much for my liking(and not in the clever sense like Muller), then is it Rooney behind, or Sterling, or Barkley? I think it's going to get messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Biggest problem is young English players don't play enough in the PL, CL and now in the national team. Forget Germany & Spain, we won't even get to the level we where at in the 90's / 00's. Daniel Sturridge is 24 - only had 1 full season of first team action and has just the 15 caps. I don't think he's significantly less talented than a Muller. But his opportunities have been far less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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