SEMTEX Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Isn't he also in Mr H's bad books, given his refusal to be standby for EURO2012? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Tony Hibbert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 G.Johnson is much better than Walker. Under-rated by fans at large imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Hart, Walker, Smalling, Lescott, Baines, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lampard, Cleverley, Young, Rooney, Defoe. Dreadful that like, looks more like it should be our B-team. There doesn't even seem like any form of optimism developing from anyone coming through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Is Richards knackered? Haven't seen him for ages. Reckon my preferred England (all fit) team would be: Hart Richards Smalling Cahill Cole/Baines* Wilshere Carrick Chamberlain Rooney Young Welbeck *dependent on attacking threat of opponent It's not that good but it should qualify at least. The paucity of quality players in numerous positions is startling. The spine of that is pretty good but the wings and fullbacks leave a lot to be desired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Would it be fair to say that Glen Johnson's best form was when he played right wing? I remember that being when he was shit hot at Portsmouth and then getting the move to Liverpool, who then played him at right back. That's how I remember it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 What's more important for you: England or Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 What's more important for you: England or Newcastle? Newcastle all day long, always has been always will be i can't speak for everyone though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 What's more important for you: England or Newcastle? Put it this way. I'd rather Newcastle won the League Cup, than England won the World Cup. It's probably even more extreme than that as well, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 What's more important for you: England or Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 f*** you guys are even worse than portuguese fans! :mike: Here there's always the idea that the national team serves the interest of the most influent teams/business man, in order to promote the players they want to make business with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Not sure folks from Newcastle are going to give you much of a balanced view on how the English support England vs their club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Not sure folks from Newcastle are going to give you much of a balanced view on how the English support England vs their club. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'm always behind England and it does piss me off when I see them inevitably get cheated out of a competition or fail to turn up like they did last year. However if it came down to a choice of seeing England win the World Cup or Newcastle winning the League Cup in my lifetime it would be the League Cup for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 The England squad tends to be a club for media darling players, if a player isn't from london or from man united or city then they have to be exceptional to force their way into the team at all (see Baines). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 There's definitely a lack of belonging or pride with England. I haven't felt it at all probably since 2004. Even then it was just at the Euros. Probably 1999 onwards I've barely been arsed about England at all. Most of the squad are arse holes. I'm not going back them for being English arse holes. They're arse holes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Baines/cole leaves a lot to be desired? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Baines/cole leaves a lot to be desired? Was talking about in the main.... they are very good but Young, Chamberlain and any RB you want to pick do leave a lot to be desired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I look at the countries around us, including France and think that generally we're better off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Not sure folks from Newcastle are going to give you much of a balanced view on how the English support England vs their club. Why? Most people from Newcastle tend to care a lot more about being Geordie than being English. A lot of separation the from London-based national team, and we tend to have pretty different personality traits from your standard Londonite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I see. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I look at the countries around us, including France and think that generally we're better off. TBF you've got a point. Spain, Germany and Italy are a fair way ahead of the rest in Europe currently. England, France, whoever are all much of a muchness and would probably get turned over by any of the above more often than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Baines/cole leaves a lot to be desired? Remember when left wing was the only 'problem position?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 What's more important for you: England or Newcastle? Newcastle, every single time it would be Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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