BrettNUFC Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 More down to Welbeck himself, does he want to go to somewhere like Everton, to play week in week out and develop his talent. Or is happy to be around Man Utd's first team being in and out of the side. He'll still be playing for England regardless of what he does but he'll have more club success at Man Utd but probably more personal success at somewhere like Everton. I think he'll be quite content at Man Utd as long as they are given him enough game time which last season they did, but that is about the best he will ever get there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I wouldn't be leaving Man Utd like, not with the amount of games they play and the players he gets to learn from. He's playing plenty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I wouldn't be leaving Man Utd like, not with the amount of games they play and the players he gets to learn from. He's playing plenty. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 He played in 39 games last season and that's more than any of our players managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Just got caught up on the thread ... Always fascinated by the Ferguson is coaching the striker out of Rooney comments. When is Rooney going to take responsibility for the failure to live up to his vast potential. Extraordinary that people still make excuses for him. Probably why he feels he can keep getting away with not putting in the necessary work to reach that potential. Ferguson didn't coach anything out of Ronaldo did he?! How about the likes of Cantona and Van Nistelrooy? Giggs? Maybe Rooney is just complacent. He's a good player, and maybe that's good enough for him. Maybe he just isn't interested in being great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Maybe Rooney isn't the player everyone thought he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Rooney is a fantastic player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Maybe he just isn't interested in being great. That's why he's on the edge of the box waiting for scraps instead of attacking crosses? Nowt wrong with Rooney's effort, he's just playing the game a totally different way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Saw on Match of the Day last night that Ross Barkley, Daniel Sturridge, and Danny Welbeck were all singled out for glowing assessments from the pundits. Both Oxelaide Chamberlain and Henderson appeared to have good games as well, judging by the coverage, and I do rate Wilshire and Sterling. Is the above evidence of the media's tendency to show bias towards English players, or is the immediate future not as bleak as some people tend to make out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Saw on Match of the Day last night that Ross Barkley, Daniel Sturridge, and Danny Welbeck were all singled out for glowing assessments from the pundits. Both Oxelaide Chamberlain and Henderson appeared to have good games as well, judging by the coverage, and I do rate Wilshire and Sterling. Is the above evidence of the media's tendency to show bias towards English players, or is the immediate future not as bleak as some people tend to make out? It's a predominantly English audience so there's always going to be bias. But it's a little of column B, too. England have some very good players coming through, imo. Not World Cup-winning good, by a long shot, but - on paper - the squad is good enough to smash qualifying rounds and put in a respectable performance at a tournament. I don't know why we look so shit these days. Manager/lack of passion/whatever. There are more significant reasons than 'the players aren't good enough' for why we're miles away from winning a major tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Saw on Match of the Day last night that Ross Barkley, Daniel Sturridge, and Danny Welbeck were all singled out for glowing assessments from the pundits. Both Oxelaide Chamberlain and Henderson appeared to have good games as well, judging by the coverage, and I do rate Wilshire and Sterling. Is the above evidence of the media's tendency to show bias towards English players, or is the immediate future not as bleak as some people tend to make out? I don't know why we look so s*** these days. Manager/lack of passion/whatever. There are more significant reasons than 'the players aren't good enough' for why we're miles away from winning a major tournament. Are there really other reasons other than not being good enough? How many English players were in last seasons team of the year for instance? Ye should be able to beat Ireland and Scotland easily I agree but ye don't have a better team than Italy, Spain, Germany, Holland, Brazil or Argentina anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Pretty much exactly what I said in the first paragraph, really! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Pretty much exactly what I said in the first paragraph, really! Having read that again it actually is what you said. Sorry about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 wow FA actually make a sensible decision... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23768854 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Saw on Match of the Day last night that Ross Barkley, Daniel Sturridge, and Danny Welbeck were all singled out for glowing assessments from the pundits. Both Oxelaide Chamberlain and Henderson appeared to have good games as well, judging by the coverage, and I do rate Wilshire and Sterling. Is the above evidence of the media's tendency to show bias towards English players, or is the immediate future not as bleak as some people tend to make out? Time for a bit of bias from myself, but Barkley was the best player on the pitch on Saturday. More impressive than Baines, Fellaini, Pienaar, Mirallas, or any Norwich player. Superb composure on the ball, played like a seasoned pro and a fucking class goal. Yeah, a few errors but they came through a drive and ambition to make things happen, and something he'll - at this rate - pick up very fast. Delighted he looks like he's finally getting a consistent chance. Something he didn't get under Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Saw on Match of the Day last night that Ross Barkley, Daniel Sturridge, and Danny Welbeck were all singled out for glowing assessments from the pundits. Both Oxelaide Chamberlain and Henderson appeared to have good games as well, judging by the coverage, and I do rate Wilshire and Sterling. Is the above evidence of the media's tendency to show bias towards English players, or is the immediate future not as bleak as some people tend to make out? Time for a bit of bias from myself, but Barkley was the best player on the pitch on Saturday. More impressive than Baines, Fellaini, Pienaar, Mirallas, or any Norwich player. Superb composure on the ball, played like a seasoned pro and a f***ing class goal. Yeah, a few errors but they came through a drive and ambition to make things happen, and something he'll - at this rate - pick up very fast. Delighted he looks like he's finally getting a consistent chance. Something he didn't get under Moyes. Wasn't he only playing becasue Gibsion was injured? Or is he now first choice pick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 From what i saw Martinez played him in the hole behind the striker and ahead of Fellaini in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Saw on Match of the Day last night that Ross Barkley, Daniel Sturridge, and Danny Welbeck were all singled out for glowing assessments from the pundits. Both Oxelaide Chamberlain and Henderson appeared to have good games as well, judging by the coverage, and I do rate Wilshire and Sterling. Is the above evidence of the media's tendency to show bias towards English players, or is the immediate future not as bleak as some people tend to make out? Time for a bit of bias from myself, but Barkley was the best player on the pitch on Saturday. More impressive than Baines, Fellaini, Pienaar, Mirallas, or any Norwich player. Superb composure on the ball, played like a seasoned pro and a f***ing class goal. Yeah, a few errors but they came through a drive and ambition to make things happen, and something he'll - at this rate - pick up very fast. Delighted he looks like he's finally getting a consistent chance. Something he didn't get under Moyes. Wasn't he only playing becasue Gibsion was injured? Or is he now first choice pick? That remains to be seen, but he surely impressed him immensely. This however led to Fellaini playing deeper, as TCD mentioned, which hampered us greatly. So there are some bits to fit in the jigsaw yet. But individually he looked a class above nearly everyone on the pitch. Not bad for 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Southgate is new U21 manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 a far better option for the role than mr passionate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 a far better option for the role than mr passionate Based on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Their respective performances in that pizza hut advert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 David Batty nailed on to be the next U21 manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 a far better option for the role than mr passionate Based on? Can't be any worse tbf and it means nothing tbh but he comes across as a bloke who knows what he's talking about ITV even if he is more wooden than Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 From hearing him speak on telly he at least has ideas about how we can move forward with development of young players in this country so I'm all for his appointment tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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