AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Uruguay are a different proposition with Suarez, ridiculous how people could think otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Uruguay are a different proposition with Suarez, ridiculous how people could think otherwise. Tbh neesy I was thinking and hoping it would be the typical case of a player being rushed back and not looking the same. Unfortunately not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Uruguay are a different proposition with Suarez, ridiculous how people could think otherwise. Tbh neesy I was thinking and hoping it would be the typical case of a player being rushed back and not looking the same. Unfortunately not. Come on man, he got two chances on a fucking plate! We didn't see anywhere near 40% of the real Suarez! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Uruguay are a different proposition with Suarez, ridiculous how people could think otherwise. Tbh neesy I was thinking and hoping it would be the typical case of a player being rushed back and not looking the same. Unfortunately not. Come on man, he got two chances on a fucking plate! We didn't see anywhere near 40% of the real Suarez! Thats bad if thats the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Uruguay are a different proposition with Suarez, ridiculous how people could think otherwise. Tbh neesy I was thinking and hoping it would be the typical case of a player being rushed back and not looking the same. Unfortunately not. Come on man, he got two chances on a fucking plate! We didn't see anywhere near 40% of the real Suarez! Come on man yourself, he put himself in those positions and was lethal in his finishing. His all-round game wasn't the same but we still had to deal with world class movement / finishing for the goals. If Suarez wasn't playing we'd have won a thoroughly shite game IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Hodgson gets sacked, the FA take Pardew off our hands and some Arab billionaire who likes shiny trophies buys NUFC. Decent summer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rent-A-Quote Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Once again DJ Puncher goes missing for England as captain when it's on the line. Hopefully he never plays for them again, Henderson was unlucky to get the hook instead of slippy G. As said, Terry would've had us better organised too. Cahill and Terry were best defensive pairing in the league last year AND they are both English! Absolute madness by Roy playing Jagielka who barely played for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Neither goal was "on a plate" in the slightest, the first in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought we would beat Uruguay and Costa Rica and lose to Italy. Especially after seeing Uruguay's first game. Uruguay are a different proposition with Suarez, ridiculous how people could think otherwise. Tbh neesy I was thinking and hoping it would be the typical case of a player being rushed back and not looking the same. Unfortunately not. Come on man, he got two chances on a f***ing plate! We didn't see anywhere near 40% of the real Suarez! Come on man yourself, he put himself in those positions and was lethal in his finishing. His all-round game wasn't the same but we still had to deal with world class movement / finishing for the goals. If Suarez wasn't playing we'd have won a thoroughly s**** game IMO. Was a reply to the "not looking the same" comment. That wasn't the same Suarez. England bottled it big time. There's no spinning it any other way. This Uruguay side was very beatable. Half the English team are his teammates, and the rest have played against him several times. If anything, England had the upper hand, with him coming back from injury on top of all that. It was a bottle job that stank of fear and shirking of responsibility by the likes of Gerrard, Baines, Jagielka, and Glen fucking Johnson who couldn;t be arsed to take a step forward to close down an advancing Cavani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Neither goal was "on a plate" in the slightest, the first in particular. Seriously? Obviously he made a great run to ghost past the defence, but the pass was so perfectly weighted and flighted all he had to do was give it direction! The second goal? latching on to a defensive error, clear of any defenders, one on one with Joe Hart? Sorry like but any top division striker worth his salt should be converting these two chances 9 times out of 10. Edit: Put it this way, if he had missed those two chances, we'd be talking about how a top striker like him should be putting those away for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Honestly think we will look back at Jagielka as one of the worst CBs to play for England on such a regular basis. Gerrard should be dropped now and should have been dropped a while ago has one good game every five and has done most his England career! I also don't think Hodgson is good enough to incorporate an attacking style into his teams that he would have you so readily believe, his teams are usually reasonably well organised but not very creative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Were we as woeful as Five Live made us out to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 i understand he played rooney central and sterling out wide? what the fuck was he thinking man... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Were we as woeful as Five Live made us out to be? Probably. On another day we'd have taken a point as Uruguay did little aside from their two gifted goals but England aside from the 10mins before we scored looked ponderous and predictable. Same shit, different tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 just seen some highlights of that, hodgson needs firing, though i suppose qualification for euro 2016 is more or less a given these days it'll be another tournament wasted with him at the helm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Same s***, different tournament. http://replygif.net/i/701.gif http://d1mxyp5ceukbya.cloudfront.net/images/sad-jon-snow.gif http://www.somegif.com/gifs/1388217133662722523.GIF http://sadgirlsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tumblr_mnsrc5y4dd1qbvihuo1_500.gif http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1402435164289295_animate.gif http://geeksout.org/sites/default/files/blog-images/crying%20sansa.gif http://24.media.tumblr.com/b07e723f518417ef9da80499cf9ff3da/tumblr_mnsy6ebR1e1r3losno2_500.gif cowie jaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Here's one to ponder: if your players were born Germans and vice versa, would Germany be as good as a major tournament competitor, and England be as shit? I'm afraid so personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Here's one to ponder: if your players were born Germans and vice versa, would Germany be as good as a major tournament competitor, and England be as s***? I'm afraid so personally. There's nothing inherently "wrong" with the English players on a phyiscal/technical level. The main issues preventing England from doing well are all mental, strategic and tactical. The role that the media plays is also unjustifiably huge. Team England should take a leaf out of MA and ban most if not all English media from the squad starting from 2 months before a major tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Here's one to ponder: if your players were born Germans and vice versa, would Germany be as good as a major tournament competitor, and England be as s***? I'm afraid so personally. There's nothing inherently "wrong" with the English players on a phyiscal/technical level. The main issues preventing England from doing well are all mental, strategic and tactical. The role that the media plays is also unjustifiably huge. Team England should take a leaf out of MA and ban most if not all English media from the squad starting from 2 months before a major tournament. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Supporting Newcastle and England ffs - at least we're used to the disappointment I guess. To think there's people out there who support teams like Barcelona and Brazil - their lives must be so different to mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 RH as England manager is almost as bad as pardew as Nufc manager! If FA appoints pardew it would be the biggest joke ever. (won't happen...unfortuneately) Henderson and welbeck in the starting line up disappointed me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Here's one to ponder: if your players were born Germans and vice versa, would Germany be as good as a major tournament competitor, and England be as s***? I'm afraid so personally. There's nothing inherently "wrong" with the English players on a phyiscal/technical level. The main issues preventing England from doing well are all mental, strategic and tactical. The role that the media plays is also unjustifiably huge. Team England should take a leaf out of MA and ban most if not all English media from the squad starting from 2 months before a major tournament. Agree with that. All this pressure & performance isolation of Rooney, Sterling was far better in that role & we suffered as a side due to the focus of changing it for Rooney. Add on top some " So you realise x is a Top Top player how will you ever cope with him" asked 20 times. The players can talk the talk about oh we're focusing on ourselves blah, but realistically they s*** the bed. Our media creates narratives about what we fail at & we all buy into it. No one expects to win penalties ever again man. The pressure created to break that narrative does us in. We'd be in shock if we even made a semi final. We bill ourselves as failures & you get what you expect in life. Germany expect to succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Need to be more of a unit, closing down, attacking with intensity and movement and tactically aware. We take our eye off the ball so much and seem slow to get at teams when they have the ball. When we have the ball the play is so slow and predictable. We need to replicate the Germans and be efficient and a unit with no 1 stand out star Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Blaming the media is the easy way out, we just don't have good enough players for the big stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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