Guest thenorthumbrian Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Security? If he cannot make the multiple millions he's already made last his lifetime then he is a bigger mug than I ever thought possible. This. It's hard to weep for the uncertain financial future of poor racehorse-owning Joey Barton. I'm extremely good at what I do and get a reasonable wedge for doing it, but it would take me decades to earn what Joey has trousered from just one season at NUFC. Yes but the going rate for a footballer is a lot more than people get for what society would deen more important jobs whether it is a bricklayer, a nurse, or your avarage office worker or factory line worker at Nissan. Footballers at the top level get ridiculous wages but only in comparison to most of the population. Rightly or wrongly the pay is onlty realistically compared with what other premiership clubs' players are earning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Maybe it isn't some evil machination and quite simply that Ashley and co don't value him as much Barton values himself. Seems that way to me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. In this instance I'm annoyed about the lack of compromise in the deal. We've got a good player on a good wage (willing to take a pay cut by all accounts) who wants to stay and the club still can't thrash a deal out which suits both parties. I'm not expecting the club to offer him £55k a week for 5 years because that would be lunacy but the contract petulantly being withdrawn and throwing him on the transfer list for nothing has meant the club has lost out again. I've carefully considered the potential thought process behind a decision whereby you effectively allow one of your best players of last season to leave on a free and now arrive at the conclusion that Mike Ashley is a rotund, quixotic, weeping clunge of a fat, spazzy, blubbery bastard cry-baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better. Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. This is true but tbf he has brought that all on himself, as Super Dave Osborne used to say "Mike your a putz" I don't think it is true. If he buys a LB, CB, midfielder and striker next week and they strengthen our first team and squad then many including me will shut the fuck up and get on with the season. People keep treating these things as isolated incidents which is completely mind-blowing - it's been bad decision after bad decision, with too few good ones and too much fucking around in the transfer market when we should have money in our pocket from all of the players we've sold. The one consistent theme is a lack of ambition and doing things on the cheap above all else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better. Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwantcurlyhair2 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 My biggest concern is the lack of an English core. When things are not going to plan Joey always came up with an answer even if it was not within the rules. The last 2 home games with Arsenal are a prime example. I dont see Cabaye, no matter how high I rate him, being to affect the opposition quite like Joey can. Both games could easily have been losses. Joey does a great job for us and long may it continue. To let him go for nothing is totally inept. Keep Joey here and start negotiating. Nothing to lose but 5 months wages. Its not as though hes not playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Shame to lose a very good player but as said earlier, his whinging about ambition now makes him look like a massive hypocrite. The 'footballer of the people" had done the very thing he slags off. Enjoy the extra money Joey, at least this time next season you will get a proper crack at the championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Ashley proves yet again what a useless cunt he is. Would not be in the least bit suprise if another good player (Tiote/Krul/Colo) went this window too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better. Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind. How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm going to miss the little rascal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. This is true but tbf he has brought that all on himself, as Super Dave Osborne used to say "Mike your a putz" I don't think it is true. If he buys a LB, CB, midfielder and striker next week and they strengthen our first team and squad then many including me will shut the fuck up and get on with the season. People keep treating these things as isolated incidents which is completely mind-blowing - it's been bad decision after bad decision, with too few good ones and too much fucking around in the transfer market when we should have money in our pocket from all of the players we've sold. The one consistent theme is a lack of ambition and doing things on the cheap above all else. Yup. It's an attempt to do business on the cheap, and if anyone says anything bad about the way NUFC is being run, they're shipped out. Especially if their wage is more than 2 farthings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better. Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Played what, 20 mins in 2 seasons? And we want to rely on him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
powellnufc Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Time for Sammy to step up, im sure he could play right wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Hoser Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'd genuinely love to come from whatever planet on which this is considered a good move by the club. Another vocal leader, and driving force behind our resurgence being shown the door. f***ing unreal. I think the bit in bold is just about the only level on which I'm bothered about his departure. Where's our much needed nasty streak going to come from without Barton? Ban Sammy from eating KFC before match days and he'll turn into the Incredible Hulk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 We relied on Barton last season despite being out for the best part of 3 years so why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Security? If he cannot make the multiple millions he's already made last his lifetime then he is a bigger mug than I ever thought possible. This. It's hard to weep for the uncertain financial future of poor racehorse-owning Joey Barton. I'm extremely good at what I do and get a reasonable wedge for doing it, but it would take me decades to earn what Joey has trousered from just one season at NUFC. Yes but the going rate for a footballer is a lot more than people get for what society would deen more important jobs whether it is a bricklayer, a nurse, or your avarage office worker or factory line worker at Nissan. Footballers at the top level get ridiculous wages but only in comparison to most of the population. Rightly or wrongly the pay is onlty realistically compared with what other premiership clubs' players are earning. Missing the point by some distance. He doesn't have to think about security, he's sucure for life, so his kids and their kids and generations for a long time. Security has been mentioned more than a couple of times in here, which I find ridiculous. Mentioning security is comparing his situation to the average Joe, us who are struggling with bills, looking for work, losing their homes, their businesses, Barton will never understand that, so people mentioning security can lay off the dramatics IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Time for Sammy to step up, im sure he could play right wing Time for a new fucking signing or three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. This is true but tbf he has brought that all on himself, as Super Dave Osborne used to say "Mike your a putz" I don't think it is true. If he buys a LB, CB, midfielder and striker next week and they strengthen our first team and squad then many including me will shut the f*** up and get on with the season. People keep treating these things as isolated incidents which is completely mind-blowing - it's been bad decision after bad decision, with too few good ones and too much f***ing around in the transfer market when we should have money in our pocket from all of the players we've sold. The one consistent theme is a lack of ambition and doing things on the cheap above all else. Agreed, if he does sign 3 players, left back, Barton's replacement and a striker, fair do's but as with every window we seem to sell and not replace, got my fingers crossed on this though, we have never been in a better position transfer fund wise to get players in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better. Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind. How can you say that when we have barely had enough time to judge Cabaye? It's a major ask for these new signings to hit the ground running when they come from a different country/league. Taking to it like to a duck to water (as Robert did) is very rare. And if they fail because they have been thrown in the deep end then it's unforgivable on our part. Look at the way Man Utd bring in players through their team gradually keeping old heads but blooding youngsters where as with teams like us it's be a superstar or fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. This is true but tbf he has brought that all on himself, as Super Dave Osborne used to say "Mike your a putz" I don't think it is true. If he buys a LB, CB, midfielder and striker next week and they strengthen our first team and squad then many including me will shut the f*** up and get on with the season. People keep treating these things as isolated incidents which is completely mind-blowing - it's been bad decision after bad decision, with too few good ones and too much f***ing around in the transfer market when we should have money in our pocket from all of the players we've sold. The one consistent theme is a lack of ambition and doing things on the cheap above all else. Yup. It's an attempt to do business on the cheap, and if anyone says anything bad about the way NUFC is being run, they're shipped out. Especially if their wage is more than 2 farthings. And anyone who was in the group of players who confronted Ashley / Llambias after he fired Houghton also has a target on their backs. Harper has been pretty open about this in public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJM Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. Wtf kind of shit statement is this? Is giving Barton away for nowt a good decision? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Security? If he cannot make the multiple millions he's already made last his lifetime then he is a bigger mug than I ever thought possible. This. It's hard to weep for the uncertain financial future of poor racehorse-owning Joey Barton. I'm extremely good at what I do and get a reasonable wedge for doing it, but it would take me decades to earn what Joey has trousered from just one season at NUFC. Yes but the going rate for a footballer is a lot more than people get for what society would deen more important jobs whether it is a bricklayer, a nurse, or your avarage office worker or factory line worker at Nissan. Footballers at the top level get ridiculous wages but only in comparison to most of the population. Rightly or wrongly the pay is onlty realistically compared with what other premiership clubs' players are earning. Missing the point by some distance. He doesn't have to think about security, he's sucure for life, so his kids and their kids and generations for a long time. Security has been mentioned more than a couple of times in here, which I find ridiculous. Mentioning security is comparing his situation to the average Joe, us who are struggling with bills, looking for work, losing their homes, their businesses, Barton will never understand that, so people mentioning security can lay off the dramatics IMO. I disagree. It's all relative. If Barton lived in a 3 bed semi, and drove a 52 plate astra then yes, what he has in the bank would mean security for the rest of his life. But he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better. Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Played what, 20 mins in 2 seasons? And we want to rely on him? Got to play sometime, he's definitely talented and tbf to him he has missed less football here than Joey has in his time with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do. Wtf kind of shit statement is this? Is giving Barton away for nowt a good decision? If we could have got money for him I'm sure we would have took it, reason he's free is no one wants him, bar QPR, and he's jumped at the first chance to leave. Rest of the footballing community don't rate him as much as we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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