Groundhog63 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Tbf to Joey, he's got company ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I don't think female ex-footballers have any weight at all in dealing with men's football, be that punditry or co-commentating. But a professional journalist / commentator / presenter can of course fulfill the same role as a male in the studio. However, females need to be picked on merit, not because of box-ticking. It's the box-ticking by filling programs with sub-standard female journalists, commentators and presenters that harms the reputation of and creates a negative slant against all female workers in the industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I do find the irony delicious that as soon as women are a factor - these roles in football are all of a sudden about meritocracy in the biggest boys club of chancers ever. Of the men, some of them can hardly speak and have achieved nowt. Barton amongst them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Hope you’re not talking about such luminaries as Robbie Savage and Gabby Agbonlahor. Two of the greatest minds and voices football has seen both on and off the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Tbf to Joey, he's got company ? What has he said that's wrong here? He's literally said he loves the rise of the women's game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 this on the other hand is touched.... It reminds me of Harry Enfield "know your limits". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Darth Crooks said: I do find the irony delicious that as soon as women are a factor - these roles in football are all of a sudden about meritocracy in the biggest boys club of chancers ever. Of the men, some of them can hardly speak and have achieved nowt. Barton amongst them. This is true too mind. Some of the best presenters in the game are women too. Gabby Logan, Laura Woods etc. It'd almost offensive that they need to wheel out fucking Robbie Savage alongside these morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Think Joey has gone full on Trump now. Give it a week and he will being interviewed by Piers Morgan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Let's be honest, he's just a typical scouser. Total gobshite thinks he's hard as fuck and got a gigantic chip on his shoulder Pretty much like all of them I've ever met Nothing is ever his fault either, quite clearly got anger issues that he can't get hold of. Again like a lot of scousers I've met Edited December 7, 2023 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Fart parcel https://x.com/joey7barton/status/1732692973052154130?s=46&t=FsEm6VC2ijNnTjHjyXU7DA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I have no issue with a women commentator on mens matches - the one who does the matches on BT sport is about as enthusiastic as a funeral though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I don’t want to sound woke but isn’t this idea that female pundits are out of their depth in the men’s game complete nonsense? Lads, if you’ve got some extra level of expertise please don’t keep hiding it away. We’d all love to hear it. The pros get very touchy when they feel they are being lectured or questioned by an amateur like a journo or a fan. Especially if the amateur happens to be in the right. I think the same defensiveness is happening here with women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Generally speaking, women presenters are amongst the best in the business. Women pundits are on the whole below average (specifically Leanne Sanderson and Sue Smith). Women commentators in football are on the whole, dreadful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cronky said: I don’t want to sound woke but isn’t this idea that female pundits are out of their depth in the men’s game complete nonsense? Lads, if you’ve got some extra level of expertise please don’t keep hiding it away. We’d all love to hear it. The pros get very touchy when they feel they are being lectured or questioned by an amateur like a journo or a fan. Especially if the amateur happens to be in the right. I think the same defensiveness is happening here with women. Yep, I was listening to an "ex pro" talking about Brailsford potentially going into Man United as director and they referred to him as not a "footballing person", as if you need to be an ex footballer to have a decent grasp on the game. Give me an Allcott over a shite ex footballer every day of the week. Absolutely no issue with women commentators, so long as they know their onions and as has been mentioned, loads of blokes who know fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 We really shouldn’t even be humouring this with a debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Andymc1 said: Generally speaking, women presenters are amongst the best in the business. Women pundits are on the whole below average (specifically Leanne Sanderson and Sue Smith). Women commentators in football are on the whole, dreadful. Sue Smith is really decent. Not sure I can stomach Sanderson. There was a women commentator/analyst's the other day saying the men's game should subsidise the women's game mind. I draw the line there. It also doesn't do them any favours to go down that route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We really shouldn’t even be humouring this with a debate. Don't think anyone is debating to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, STM said: Yep, I was listening to an "ex pro" talking about Brailsford potentially going into Man United as director and they referred to him as not a "footballing person", as if you need to be an ex footballer to have a decent grasp on the game. Give me an Allcott over a shite ex footballer every day of the week. Absolutely no issue with women commentators, so long as they know their onions and as has been mentioned, loads of blokes who know fuck all. I guess it depends in what capacity he's going into the club. If it's head of performance it makes perfect sense. He's probably as good as anyone in sport at squeezing more performance out of athletes, using data. If it's chief goalkeeping coach, they're absolutely right, but which club is stupid enough to do that?! There are certain areas where I agree a background in the game is essential - case in point, these fucking morons who have never played the game systematically ruining it by implementing refereeing systems and rules that don't work, to justify their existence. As for pundits, i'd far rather watch some of the women than the likes of Merson, Clinton Morrison or God forbid, Bruce - a proven failure with no tactical knowledge at all, giving his opinion on Pep's team setup. Fucking chancers! Edited December 7, 2023 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cort Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Clown's still going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmATree Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 He is one fucking clown that bloke. No wonder even his own city hates him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I am ashamed to say I once had a Barton shirt I was only 20-21. But still no excuse. What an absolute disgrace of a human being he is. Can't stand the cunt these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) What's he trying to prove with that completely innocuous clip? Has anyone hired this woman or is she just someone on social media? Does anyone want to start sending him clips of some of the absolute dipshit men that are trying to make a living from football on social media, too? So funny how many men get up in arms about how women aren't 'qualified' to talk about men's football as if 90% of men 'analysing' the game have fuck all insightful to say. Edited December 7, 2023 by wormy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wormy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: I am ashamed to say I once had a Barton shirt I was only 20-21. But still no excuse. What an absolute disgrace of a human being he is. Can't stand the cunt these days. Definitely no excuse. I'm still disgusted at 16 year old me getting Owen on the gold shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, wormy said: What's he trying to prove with that completely innocuous clip? Has anyone hired this woman or is she just someone on social media? Does anyone want to start sending him clips of some of the absolute dipshit men that are tying to make a living from football on social media, too? So funny how many men get up in arms about women aren't 'qualified' to talk about men's football as if 90% of men 'analysing' the game have fuck all insightful to say. This was what I was saying the other day to someone. When they were moaning about a particular female pundit/commentator. It seems too easy to single them out. When you can basically count on one hand the amount of decent male pundits we regularly see on the likes of Sky, BBC and BT/TNT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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