Joey Barton

[Razor]

Absoluletely gutted  

[Dave]

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Barton - Left for a much bigger wage than he merits

Keegan - The club were proven wrong here

Shearer - Contract was up, he hadn't exactly shown signs of being much of a manager to get us up, don't see an issue here.

Nolan - Left for a much bigger wage and length contract than he merits.

Carroll - We got a lot more than his market value, he got a massive payrise, joined a bigger club.

Enrique - Wouldn't sign new contract, joined a bigger club.

 

Nothing to do with the complete and utter lack of ambition at the club then? Thought not...

 

The Alan Carr and McDermott fetus show in effect, ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

 

 

Complete and utter lack of ambition?

 

 

 

Sign for less ambitious club.

 

 

 

 

 

Who?

[Rich]

Dnt shot the messanga

 

[OzzieMandias]

These players (Barton and Nolan) left because we wouldn't give them contracts. What were they supposed to do? Make their own on Publisher and sign it themselves? Where they've gone and what they were on is irrelevant to me.

 

They were good enough for us and I don't think it'd have taken 60k and 80k wage rises to convince them to stay.

 

They were both offered contracts.

[MW]

I dont understand why the conversation even gets swayed towards whether the players are right or wrong, or whether we should have matched the wages another silly club is willing to offer.

 

The issues are:

 

We are letting go of our key proven players with no solid replacements firmly lined up

Barton did not need to be made available for free a year early when having him would likely have helped both our level of success/turnover this season in all competitions

 

Barton didn't have to reject a 3-year contract at the club and publicly criticise his bosses.

 

its the bosses fault for being absolute twats

[GM]

I like him, but he can fuck off.

 

Your wish came true.

[Cajun]

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Barton - Left for a much bigger wage than he merits

Keegan - The club were proven wrong here

Shearer - Contract was up, he hadn't exactly shown signs of being much of a manager to get us up, don't see an issue here.

Nolan - Left for a much bigger wage and length contract than he merits.

Carroll - We got a lot more than his market value, he got a massive payrise, joined a bigger club.

Enrique - Wouldn't sign new contract, joined a bigger club.

 

Nothing to do with the complete and utter lack of ambition at the club then? Thought not...

 

The Alan Carr and McDermott fetus show in effect, ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

 

 

Complete and utter lack of ambition?

 

 

 

Sign for less ambitious club.

 

 

 

 

 

Who?

 

Nolan and Barton.

[Guest palnese]

I like him, but he can fuck off.

 

Your wish came true.

 

[JH]

These players (Barton and Nolan) left because we wouldn't give them contracts. What were they supposed to do? Make their own on Publisher and sign it themselves? Where they've gone and what they were on is irrelevant to me.

 

They were good enough for us and I don't think it'd have taken 60k and 80k wage rises to convince them to stay.

 

They were both offered contracts.

 

Nolan agreed a deal which was subsequently withdrawn.

 

Barton is a little more complicated. But we didn't negotiate. We stuck a contract on the table and when Barton didn't like it, we removed it and walked away. What kind of negotiation is that?!

[MW]

For those thinking its not the boards fault, look at everyone who's fkn left, all saying/criticizing the board. llambiarse is fucking twat man

[Guest bimpy474]

I dont think we actually need to replace Joey, number wise anyhoo, ability wise thats another matter, times going to tell if Gosling, Marveaux, Obertan, Haris and Abeid are going to fill the void between them.

[Cajun]

I don't for one second think this board is a complete joke, however the players aren't blameless either.

[Dave]

These players (Barton and Nolan) left because we wouldn't give them contracts. What were they supposed to do? Make their own on Publisher and sign it themselves? Where they've gone and what they were on is irrelevant to me.

 

They were good enough for us and I don't think it'd have taken 60k and 80k wage rises to convince them to stay.

 

They were both offered contracts.

 

When's all this money going to be spent as you said it would be, out of interest? Just wondering like, given that there's a week to go, prices are going up daily and we're on -£4m.

[GM]

On the upside, it's clearly just a matter of waiting for Jonas to be sold now. Every other Barton prophecy has come to fruition.

[Guest Mantis]

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Yup. They are all greedy, never put any effort into the club and fat Mike is a football genius with the clubs future at heart.

[Jayson]

I dont understand why the conversation even gets swayed towards whether the players are right or wrong, or whether we should have matched the wages another silly club is willing to offer.

 

The issues are:

 

We are letting go of our key proven players with no solid replacements firmly lined up

Barton did not need to be made available for free a year early when having him would likely have helped both our level of success/turnover this season in all competitions

 

Barton didn't have to reject a 3-year contract at the club and publicly criticise his bosses.

 

Whats the relevance of that? I didnt say he didnt reject it, i said we didnt need to let him go a year early.

 

If you think theyve moved him on out of spite for what he said rather than the benefit of our club, im not sure how you can back that idea either.

[TRon]

These players (Barton and Nolan) left because we wouldn't give them contracts. What were they supposed to do? Make their own on Publisher and sign it themselves? Where they've gone and what they were on is irrelevant to me.

 

They were good enough for us and I don't think it'd have taken 60k and 80k wage rises to convince them to stay.

 

They were both offered contracts.

 

Nolan agreed a deal which was subsequently withdrawn.

 

Barton is a little more complicated. But we didn't negotiate. We stuck a contract on the table and when Barton didn't like it, we removed it and walked away. What kind of negotiation is that?!

 

One which has been proven correct in hindsight (and foresight for some). Both had limited value, realised it and went to smaller clubs for the pay day rather than compete and prove their worth with the new signings.

[PineBarrens]

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Barton - Left for a much bigger wage than he merits

Keegan - The club were proven wrong here

Shearer - Contract was up, he hadn't exactly shown signs of being much of a manager to get us up, don't see an issue here.

Nolan - Left for a much bigger wage and length contract than he merits.

Carroll - We got a lot more than his market value, he got a massive payrise, joined a bigger club.

Enrique - Wouldn't sign new contract, joined a bigger club.

 

Nothing to do with the club then? Thought not...

 

Your seeing it black and white, as many have said there is blame on all sides, your just ranting away, you have some valid points but they are being lost in your anger.

 

Okay, let's take Barton. The board in a fit of pique put a valuable member of the team on what is essentially a free transfer. Nolan I wouldn't have given the length of contract, but his comments about promises made sound depressingly familiar. Keegan was vindicated by an industrial injuries tribunal. Enrique may well have refused to sign a new contract but had made it abundantly clear that he believed the club lacked ambition. The Carroll deal moneywise was a very good deal, but is looking less like one every day without an adequate strikeforce. Shearer presumably wanted more than ju-ju beans and a curly-wurly as his transfer budget (or wanted £700 million for Messi et al depending who you believe).

 

So no, it's not black and white, but with every exit through the door the ringing chimes of 'mercenary' or 'greedy' is as disheartening as it is groundhog day-esque. Yes, everyone knows footballers can be greedy and arseholes to boot, but I'd wager that the underlying problem is more to do with Ashley's complete and utter lack of ambition. And again, although there's nothing you or I can do about that does not make it right or acceptable. The twat's making supporting this club a sufferance than a labour of love.

[Optimistic Nut]

I dont understand why the conversation even gets swayed towards whether the players are right or wrong, or whether we should have matched the wages another silly club is willing to offer.

 

The issues are:

 

We are letting go of our key proven players with no solid replacements firmly lined up

Barton did not need to be made available for free a year early when having him would likely have helped both our level of success/turnover this season in all competitions

 

Barton didn't have to reject a 3-year contract at the club and publicly criticise his bosses.

 

Whats the relevance of that? I didnt say he didnt reject it, i said we didnt need to let him go a year early.

 

If you think theyve moved him on out of spite for what he said rather than the benefit of our club, im not sure how you can back that idea either.

 

Barton didn't have to go. Pardew was happy to play him, the fans clearly loved him...why go?

[Interpolic]

FFS man, reading Stu's posts once is more than enough, can you fucking sort this out please?

[Optimistic Nut]

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Barton - Left for a much bigger wage than he merits

Keegan - The club were proven wrong here

Shearer - Contract was up, he hadn't exactly shown signs of being much of a manager to get us up, don't see an issue here.

Nolan - Left for a much bigger wage and length contract than he merits.

Carroll - We got a lot more than his market value, he got a massive payrise, joined a bigger club.

Enrique - Wouldn't sign new contract, joined a bigger club.

 

Nothing to do with the club then? Thought not...

 

Your seeing it black and white, as many have said there is blame on all sides, your just ranting away, you have some valid points but they are being lost in your anger.

 

Okay, let's take Barton. The board in a fit of pique put a valuable member of the team on what is essentially a free transfer. Nolan I wouldn't have given the length of contract, but his comments about promises made sound depressingly familiar. Keegan was vindicated by an industrial injuries tribunal. Enrique may well have refused to sign a new contract but had made it abundantly clear that he believed the club lacked ambition. The Carroll deal moneywise was a very good deal, but is looking less like one every day without an adequate strikeforce. Shearer presumably wanted more than ju-ju beans and a curly-wurly as his transfer budget (or wanted £700 million for Messi et al depending who you believe).

 

So no, it's not black and white, but with every exit through the door the ringing chimes of 'mercenary' or 'greedy' is as disheartening as it is groundhog day-esque. Yes, everyone knows footballers can be greedy and arseholes to boot, but I'd wager that the underlying problem is more to do with Ashley's complete and utter lack of ambition. And again, although there's nothing you or I can do about that does not make it right or acceptable. The t***'s making supporting this club a sufferance than a labour of love.

 

I'm yet to see one person call them greedy or a mercenary btw. Plenty of people understanding why they'd take a payrise in two cases, or join a bigger club in the other two.

[Jayson]

I dont understand why the conversation even gets swayed towards whether the players are right or wrong, or whether we should have matched the wages another silly club is willing to offer.

 

The issues are:

 

We are letting go of our key proven players with no solid replacements firmly lined up

Barton did not need to be made available for free a year early when having him would likely have helped both our level of success/turnover this season in all competitions

 

Barton didn't have to reject a 3-year contract at the club and publicly criticise his bosses.

 

Whats the relevance of that? I didnt say he didnt reject it, i said we didnt need to let him go a year early.

 

If you think theyve moved him on out of spite for what he said rather than the benefit of our club, im not sure how you can back that idea either.

 

Barton didn't have to go. Pardew was happy to play him, the fans clearly loved him...why go?

 

Uh to secure the contract that hes been offered incase he wasnt offered the same in the future?

 

Not sure why you want to turn this into Barton V the board.

 

Try looking at whats beneficial for Newcastle v what isnt.

[Guest bimpy474]

For those thinking its not the boards fault, look at everyone who's fkn left, all saying/criticizing the board. llambiarse is f***ing t*** man

 

What about who has joined then, HBA, Cabaye, Colo, Jonas, Marv, Simpson, Williamson, Ba, Tiote, Obertan, Best, Haris, Abeid, Gosling are the board not to blame for their arrivals ?

[Dave]

Wonder what Simpson makes of this btw? Seems to have had a decent relationship with Barton, referring to the right as 'their side' etc. Given the rumours about his own contract talks stalling, could he be next? I know a number on here don't rate him particularly highly, but as with Enrique he's actually our only decent and established option at right-back.

[Dave]

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Barton - Left for a much bigger wage than he merits

Keegan - The club were proven wrong here

Shearer - Contract was up, he hadn't exactly shown signs of being much of a manager to get us up, don't see an issue here.

Nolan - Left for a much bigger wage and length contract than he merits.

Carroll - We got a lot more than his market value, he got a massive payrise, joined a bigger club.

Enrique - Wouldn't sign new contract, joined a bigger club.

 

Nothing to do with the complete and utter lack of ambition at the club then? Thought not...

 

The Alan Carr and McDermott fetus show in effect, ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

 

 

Complete and utter lack of ambition?

 

 

 

Sign for less ambitious club.

 

 

 

 

 

Who?

 

Nolan and Barton.

 

I'd say both of them have joined more ambitious clubs than NUFC.