Guest sicko2ndbest Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 All this 'inability to work with Barton' stuff is horseshit! The facts of the matter were that Barton made a petulant tackle that resulted in a straight red card meaning he could play no further part in the run in. Shearer was frustrated because he knew how important Barton was in the run in. What should he have done 'Its ok Joey everyone makes mistakes, dont worry about the fact that you are now banned from the run in' He faced up to what it was which was inexcusable. He told Barton exactly what he thought, something Hughton would not do in a million years. JFK would have probably applauded Barton for showing the Cunt who's boss. I WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE TAKE THE PISS OUT OF THIS CLUB This sticks out to me like a sore thumb. Duff who has worked under Mourinho said Shearer was top drawer. This when he was not a guaranteed starter. This speaks volumes for me. Beggars belief that anyone can not want Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 So oh managerial genius gazza ladra. Who do you suggest we played LB when Enrique was injured? Bassong was played LB before Shearer came in and actually played left of a back 3 CB v Stoke which worked sort of, Duff has played there plenty for club AND country before Shearer and i repeat got a lot of praise on this forum for his work there. I apreciate you are struggling here so i will be blunt, you are talking bollocks! Enrique started 2 games under Shearer. Chelsea where he played behind Jonas. Pompey at home where he played 3 up front(understandably Jonas carrying an injury missed out) and thats it. He went off withing 30 mins of the latter. He was injures for the rest save the second half v Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Even if the Shearer era isn't a success, and there's every chance it might be, we need to get it out of our systems so we can move on as club. i understand and agree with that but the fact that the minority of fans are pretty much being held at gunpoint with this is quite tragic. we always need a certain hero, not just any hero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 All this 'inability to work with Barton' stuff is horseshit! The facts of the matter were that Barton made a petulant tackle that resulted in a straight red card meaning he could play no further part in the run in. Shearer was frustrated because he knew how important Barton was in the run in. What should he have done 'Its ok Joey everyone makes mistakes, dont worry about the fact that you are now banned from the run in' He faced up to what it was which was inexcusable. He told Barton exactly what he thought, something Hughton would not do in a million years. JFK would have probably applauded Barton for showing the Cunt who's boss. I WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE TAKE THE PISS OUT OF THIS CLUB This sticks out to me like a sore thumb. Duff who has worked under Mourinho said Shearer was top drawer. This when he was not a guaranteed starter. This speaks volumes for me. Beggars belief that anyone can not want Shearer. Duff also said that he really wanted to stay, loved playing here etc, then as soon as he went he had a pop at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Oh , fuck Kint. Jonas was on the right for Chelsea. When Shearer played Jonas, he brought him in on the right or as a striker (?) in the front three---surprise, surprise we didn't score. Meanwhile, Duff soldiered on up and down the left wing. It doesn't take a genius to know that Alan Smith is not the answer at left back. Duff offered nothing. We'd been better off with Ryan Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Even if the Shearer era isn't a success, and there's every chance it might be, we need to get it out of our systems so we can move on as club. i understand and agree with that but the fact that the minority of fans are pretty much being held at gunpoint with this is quite tragic. we always need a certain hero, not just any hero. Yeah, I certainly don't believe that Newcastle is particularly 'special' and needs a particular Geordie hero to be the manager, that attitude holds the club back in a major way. I'm not sure how many fans really believe that either though, if Mourinho fancied a crack at the job I'm sure we'd get on board with that! The only problem is that, to a certain extent, what a vocal minority shout for and what the press report becomes the reality. If we're always going to have the spectre of Shearer over the club, on TV etc, then it might not be the worst thing to give him a shot and see what happens. Also, he might be a success, which would obviously be amazing. Who will be next in line as the messiah though? S Taylor's a bit young to be manager yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Oh , f*** Kint. Jonas was on the right for Chelsea. When Shearer played Jonas, he brought him in on the right or as a striker (?) in the front three---surprise, surprise we didn't score. Meanwhile, Duff soldiered on up and down the left wing. It doesn't take a genius to know that Alan Smith is not the answer at left back. Duff offered nothing. We'd been better off with Ryan Taylor. Jonas was on the left v Chelsea, Lovenkrands was injured by Chelseas LW Malouda dont ya know. You are clearly unable to understand football, that much is obvious. Duff did a reasonable job at LB, his attitute proved Shearer was correct to play him there regardless of what a no nothing like you thinks. As for Smith LB, you will have to explain when that happened? While there how about answering the original question of Who Shearer should have picked LB during all these injuries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing I'd rather have a proven manager. What's hard to understand? If Arsene Wenger left Arsenal, they wouldn't give the job to Tony Adams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing I'd rather have a proven manager. What's hard to understand? If Arsene Wenger left Arsenal, they wouldn't give the job to Tony Adams. They'd be in a position to appoint a top manager. We aren't. Some people would rather take a gamble on the potential in shearer than the known mediocrity to shite proven by the majority of experienced candidates we'd be able to attract in our current position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing I'd rather have a proven manager. What's hard to understand? If Arsene Wenger left Arsenal, they wouldn't give the job to Tony Adams. I think you are just being a wum, whats hard to understand for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing He's got a point thought, i bet no one can give a decent reason without referring to Keegans first spell be it in their mind or actally written on here. Im not saying Shearer will be a bad manager as a reason for not wanting him here (although i don't think he will be a good manager), all im saying is at this critical time we need to guarantee promotion the first time of asking then look to move on from there, not try an incorporate another fucking fairlytale into a history of NUFC. Emotion needs to take a sidestep and let logic and reasoning through, its actually imperative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing He's got a point thought, i bet no one can give a decent reason without referring to Keegans first spell be it in their mind or actally written on here. Im not saying Shearer will be a bad manager as a reason for not wanting him here (although i don't think he will be a good manager), all im saying is at this critical time we need to guarantee promotion the first time of asking then look to move on from there, not try an incorporate another f***ing fairlytale into a history of NUFC. Emotion needs to take a sidestep and let logic and reasoning through, its actually imperative. Exactly. Its preceisely this sort of unreasoned, sentimental stupidity that holds this club back. Even when we're a Premiership club, Allardyce is in the job 5 minutes and there's morons shouting for Keegan and what's worse Ashley goes and listens to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing I'd rather have a proven manager. What's hard to understand? If Arsene Wenger left Arsenal, they wouldn't give the job to Tony Adams. I think you are just being a wum, whats hard to understand for you? Yeah I disagree with your opinion and the unconvential wisdom of wanting someone as manager who's achieved bugger all as a coach, so I must be a wum. Grow up mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Why do fans want him anyway? Only thing he's done as a coach/manager is get us relegated. We're more than capable of attracting a proven manager. If Shearer wants the job, he should prove himself somewhere else first. End of. Gone fishing He's got a point thought, i bet no one can give a decent reason without referring to Keegans first spell be it in their mind or actally written on here. Im not saying Shearer will be a bad manager as a reason for not wanting him here (although i don't think he will be a good manager), all im saying is at this critical time we need to guarantee promotion the first time of asking then look to move on from there, not try an incorporate another f***ing fairlytale into a history of NUFC. Emotion needs to take a sidestep and let logic and reasoning through, its actually imperative. Exactly. Its preceisely this sort of unreasoned, sentimental stupidity that holds this club back. Even when we're a Premiership club, Allardyce is in the job 5 minutes and there's morons shouting for Keegan and what's worse Ashley goes and listens to them. No one was shouting for Keegan Keep fishing though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 No again i simply think your way of posting is to fish for an argument. I never commented on whetehr he should be boss, just that you deliberately post to provoke a negative reaction by looking down on anyone who wants him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Even when we're a Premiership club, Allardyce is in the job 5 minutes and there's morons shouting for Keegan and what's worse Ashley goes and listens to them. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 No again i simply think your way of posting is to fish for an argument. I never commented on whetehr he should be boss, just that you deliberately post to provoke a negative reaction by looking down on anyone who wants him. I simply speak my mind. That's what a forum's for my friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I think most of the arguments on here are academic anyway. Shearer didn't really prove himself a good or bad manager in his spell last season, pretty difficult to come to any conclusions on the basis of 8 games. The fact is he priced himself out of the job with Ashley and he's only going to get the job if someone pays enough money to buy the club which looks like pie in the sky right now. So he isn't a realistic option as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Even when we're a Premiership club, Allardyce is in the job 5 minutes and there's morons shouting for Keegan and what's worse Ashley goes and listens to them. :lol: Erm, who ws shouting for KK it was always sky showing little mongs bouncing up and down shouting for shearer. Anyway, everyone was suprised to see KK come back it was totally out of the blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 With current situation = keep him New buyer = let them decide, keep as coach No buyer, no money for transfers = keep until new buyer is found Completely taken off the new market = new manager ASAP Chris has done a fantastic job this season in a horrible set of circumstances. People really should not forget this. Manager material longer term, I think not. I also suspect Shearer, for Shearer's sake would probably NOT do as well as Hughton is right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Otmar Hitzfeld . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Otmar Hitzfeld . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Part of me is very, very pissed off that Shearer will get the job simply because the concensus wants him. It's embarassing tbh. Should Hughton continue to do well, then get demoted to accomodate Shearer, what the hell happens if form drops? Do we sack Shearer then appoint him in 5 years when he's polished his trade elsewhere? Give him the job when it isn't working, by all means, but beforehand would make no sense whatsoever. And I still think he'd play Nicky Butt And I bet you also thought he'd never drop Owen.. he benched him for one game (when fit) So he dropped him then, yes?! You're wrong anyway..... he dropped him twice (just out of the top of my head), once versus Liverpool and the other against Villa. (He came on as a sub in both games) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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