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  1. 1. Have you / do you intend to pledge to the 1892 Pledge scheme orchestrated by the NUST?

    • Yes
      69
    • No
      92


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22 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Yeah I kind of agree, it’s a win win situation for NUST, us fans and the club’s new owners whatever happens either way IMO. 
 

Scenario 1 - we get taking over and the new owners agree to sell a stake to the trust (great)

Scenario 2 - we get taking over and the new owners don’t want to sell a stake to the trust (Ashley finally goes), but local charities gets shit loads of money (great)

Scenario 3 - Ashley stays, we go down, we go down again, the value of the club drops, the trust’s pot grows, our future potential stake grows (still positives for NUST)

Scenario 4 - highly unlikely, admittedly, but say a decade on there is tens and tens of millions in the pot to potentially save the club going bust or buy the club out totally should the value drop to say 50m or something after years outside of the top flight (still positives for NUST)

Another scenario to that is should we do a sunderland in the next decade and the club is up for sale at say 50-60m we could co-own the club with another major investor who might not be able to afford the full asking price in their own (great)

Either way I see nothing negative about the Trust’s pledge scheme full stop and again fully support it and hope in time tens of thousands of others will which I’m confident will happen.

Thursday was a great day for our club or rather our club’s fanbase which in reality without there is no club. We are the club essentially. 

Think you’ve covered all bases there fair play. I’m open minded on this and hopefully it’s a win win like you say.

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5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Think you’ve covered all bases there fair play. I’m open minded on this and hopefully it’s a win win like you say.

Thanks and for once in the last decade or so (Rafa’s time here aside), I’m actually excited about things in the not too near and distant future and that’s thanks to NUST and this pledge scheme. Hopefully the takeover will go through sometime soon and the club and fans can be United once more, stake or no stake. If that all fails and we go down and end up rotting even more, I believe we now have a supporters trust we can believe in, join, get behind and be United together to fight for the future of our club which is on its own, a momentous thing for the fanbase as again, without fans there is no club, we are the club and always have been and always will be regardless of times and changes of owners etc. That and I’m trying to be as positive as I can be today in my life with everything that means something to my life, I want my boys to have a club to support, games to go to, wonderful nights like against Barca and heroes to worship like I had in KK, Big Al et al. Their generation needs NUFC to be the best it can be or we lose a generation and we lose even more of our club. This pledge scheme means for me at least anyway, a fight to save my club and if I don’t pledge at least, I can’t fight and I’ll eventually lose my club forever and I don’t want that, I miss my club, going to games, I miss having my heroes in black and white, for me and my boys. Pledge, join NUST, fight, the end is near for Ashley surely?!

 

 

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Been for a walk with my dad this morning and he asked question which I said I would post on here. 

 

Before Ashley came in my dad had a couple of hundred quid's worth of shares in the club, but he reckons when Ashley took over he was able to buy them under some compulsory rule because he owned so much of it already. He also paid less than my dad paid for the shares when he did it? 

 

If new owners come in and decide they dont want to work with the trust will they be able to do the same with the Trust's 1% and buy them for cheaper than the Trust paid? Or is there an agreement that they can't do that? 

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The shares aren't publically traded.  The trust can't buy anything if the owner doesn't want to sell to them.  When Ashley took over the shares were traded on the market and so the price he paid was based on that.

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11 minutes ago, Joey Linton said:

Been for a walk with my dad this morning and he asked question which I said I would post on here. 

 

Before Ashley came in my dad had a couple of hundred quid's worth of shares in the club, but he reckons when Ashley took over he was able to buy them under some compulsory rule because he owned so much of it already. He also paid less than my dad paid for the shares when he did it? 

 

If new owners come in and decide they dont want to work with the trust will they be able to do the same with the Trust's 1% and buy them for cheaper than the Trust paid? Or is there an agreement that they can't do that? 

At the time the club was publicly listed, of course should the new owners sell a stake to the trust, there will be all kinds of variables on buy back/sale and maybe even an a opportunity for the trust to buy more of a stake. They couldn’t just buy the trust’s stake off them for pennies is my understanding. Anyone else with more of a clue on such matters able to join in?

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2 minutes ago, loki679 said:

The shares aren't publically traded.  The trust can't buy anything if the owner doesn't want to sell to them.  When Ashley took over the shares were traded on the market and so the price he paid was based on that.

Basically this!

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Was initially more than a little cynical, however the early execution of this is excellent. Plaudits to anyone here that's been involved in the set-up. Has it been reported anywhere what percentage of pledges are recurring? 

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Over 40k pledged so far, you’d assume a good percentage of those pledging will do so on a regular basis given the scheme a great start, well done all. I’ve pledged a rather large amount first off and will wait to see what the following days, weeks, months etc. brings before I pledge regular in terms of direct debits every week or so. I’m confident I will commit to that, though. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, HTT II said:

Yeah I kind of agree, it’s a win win situation for NUST, us fans and the club’s new owners whatever happens either way IMO. 
 

Scenario 1 - we get taking over and the new owners agree to sell a stake to the trust (great)

Scenario 2 - we get taking over and the new owners don’t want to sell a stake to the trust (Ashley finally goes), but local charities gets shit loads of money (great)

Scenario 3 - Ashley stays, we go down, we go down again, the value of the club drops, the trust’s pot grows, our future potential stake grows (still positives for NUST)

Scenario 4 - highly unlikely, admittedly, but say a decade on there is tens and tens of millions in the pot to potentially save the club going bust or buy the club out totally should the value drop to say 50m or something after years outside of the top flight (still positives for NUST)

Another scenario to that is should we do a sunderland in the next decade and the club is up for sale at say 50-60m we could co-own the club with another major investor who might not be able to afford the full asking price in their own (great)

Either way I see nothing negative about the Trust’s pledge scheme full stop and again fully support it and hope in time tens of thousands of others will which I’m confident will happen.

Thursday was a great day for our club or rather our club’s fanbase which in reality without there is no club. We are the club essentially. 

Are you a member of the Magpie Group HTT ? If not they liked you’re post.

 

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1 minute ago, Joey Linton said:

Do you have a rough idea of how many people it is so far? 

When I signed up an hour ago my order number was mid 7k if that's accurate.

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45 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

4,000 is a good number, but you would think/ hope that number could still grow quite significantly with our fanbase. Any idea how much the average pledge is?

Is it not just £50,000 divided by 4,000 people? 

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If they even raised a few hundred grand it would be much better and far more enjoyable to just start a new club. If the donations kept up each year it could really become something. A place for local talent not to get swallowed up and sent on too early.

The idea of raising a few million to buy 1% of nufc just seems pointless compared to the journey you could have with something new.

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2 hours ago, Happinesstan said:

That's mean.

Mean and average are generally synonyms. 50k/4000 wont give the mean monthly pledge though cos the 50k will include some one offs. Anyway it's probably more useful to know the median.

 

I'm going to pledge but am waiting a couple of months to pay off some credit card debt first. I think Hurst said on one of the videos 6 figures would be great after a month. I suspect won't reach that within a motnh as I'd imagine the increase will tale off substantially after the initial hype. Still >50K is great going as a start.

 

 

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