Mr. Snrub Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 So nearly happened to Everton though, and no way would they have recovered with that wretched Kendall side if they'd have went down. Clinging onto that kind of hope is what keeps me going. It's just when you think how good we were 6-7 years ago and basically took it for granted. We had no right to challlenge the top teams, but we did, then threw the dummy out when we finished 5th after that draw at Soton. The way we were able to pick teams off with such pace and precision and take the league by storm, and thinking what we are like now. That is what hurts the most. (I prefer Sir Bob's 2000-2002 team to Keegan's 1995-97) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 The dummy was spat out after the draw with Wolves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 So nearly happened to Everton though, and no way would they have recovered with that wretched Kendall side if they'd have went down. Clinging onto that kind of hope is what keeps me going. It's just when you think how good we were 6-7 years ago and basically took it for granted. We had no right to challlenge the top teams, but we did, then threw the dummy out when we finished 5th after that draw at Soton. The way we were able to pick teams off with such pace and precision and take the league by storm, and thinking what we are like now. That is what hurts the most. (I prefer Sir Bob's 2000-2002 team to Keegan's 1995-97) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 2000-2001 we were shite. 2001-2002 we were damn good but nowher near 95-97. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob 1988 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 What i hate the most about the championship is the lack of quality in the league the defending is shocking.. (I prefer Sir Bob's 2000-2002 team to Keegan's 1995-97) yer me to i will never forget that match against feyenoord in the champions league it feels so long ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Not having a Newcastle Team in the latest Pro Evo. Going take me days to edit one in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The fact that 'The Chamionship' section of anything always takes that little bit longer to get to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The general tackiness of it. The Americanism of some teams stadiums, it's like every team has a stadium like Hull, Bolton and Stokes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PJ87 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The general tackiness of it. The Americanism of some teams stadiums, it's like every team has a stadium like Hull, Bolton and Stokes. 9 out of 24 stadia are pretty much the same in this league, but with different coloured seats. Cardiff, Swansea, Doncaster, Reading, Derby, Coventry, Boro, Plymouth and Leicester are all identikit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 At the moment, this general lack of a real sense of achievement when we win games. It's like it's an extension of last season's relegation battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 At the moment, this general lack of a real sense of achievement when we win games. It's like it's an extension of last season's relegation battle. How so? I was estatic when we won matches last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 At the moment, this general lack of a real sense of achievement when we win games. It's like it's an extension of last season's relegation battle. Aye, its a bit like winning the raffle at work, and having to show you're grateful, even though you dont really like the miniature bottle of white wine, and at the same time someone's won in the same raffle £500s worth of shopping vouchers. Applaud. Hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'm just enjoying the fact that we're winning games in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 At the moment, this general lack of a real sense of achievement when we win games. It's like it's an extension of last season's relegation battle. How so? I was estatic when we won matches last year. Perhaps it's more of a reflection of the state of the club than of the Championship. In previous promotion campaigns, the feeling was different because it was like we were moving forward, and getting to the top division felt like a real achievement. I get the sense now that we're trying to arrest a slide, like getting promoted is just ensuring that we're back where we belong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iliketoonarmy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The fact that Sir Bobby saw us going down with the fat cunt, and no more chance to see us doing any good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The fact that Sir Bobby saw us going down with the fat c***, and no more chance to see us doing any good... Here here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Where where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 And of course your NOT a big club anymore By the way Swansea sold out their allocation of tickets 2 weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 And of course your NOT a big club anymore By the way Swansea sold out their allocation of tickets 2 weeks ago I'd hope they would, big day out for them Jack bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I wish I could come, bit far from saskatoon though , was very nearly sent to Cleveland with the job, a colleague went instead and is returning the day of the match. I'd have found a way to stay longer and now be begging for a ticket (sitting anywhere) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 At the moment, this general lack of a real sense of achievement when we win games. It's like it's an extension of last season's relegation battle. How so? I was estatic when we won matches last year. Perhaps it's more of a reflection of the state of the club than of the Championship. In previous promotion campaigns, the feeling was different because it was like we were moving forward, and getting to the top division felt like a real achievement. I get the sense now that we're trying to arrest a slide, like getting promoted is just ensuring that we're back where we belong. This - in 1984 and (especially)in 1993, we had the feeling that the club was going on to better things. In 84 the Board cocked it up by making things difficult for Cox in the transfer market, so he resigned. In 93, we knew the team was decent enough to do well but they surpassed expectations by finishing 3rd next season after the addition of only a few players. There is no way this team will even stay up if it gets promoted this time unless there are several new signings, so the sense of progress isn't there ; also, we all know that the club's future is not settled and it will be put on the market again if promotion is achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 At the moment, this general lack of a real sense of achievement when we win games. It's like it's an extension of last season's relegation battle. How so? I was estatic when we won matches last year. Perhaps it's more of a reflection of the state of the club than of the Championship. In previous promotion campaigns, the feeling was different because it was like we were moving forward, and getting to the top division felt like a real achievement. I get the sense now that we're trying to arrest a slide, like getting promoted is just ensuring that we're back where we belong. This - in 1984 and (especially)in 1993, we had the feeling that the club was going on to better things. In 84 the Board cocked it up by making things difficult for Cox in the transfer market, so he resigned. In 93, we knew the team was decent enough to do well but they surpassed expectations by finishing 3rd next season after the addition of only a few players. There is no way this team will even stay up if it gets promoted this time unless there are several new signings, so the sense of progress isn't there ; also, we all know that the club's future is not settled and it will be put on the market again if promotion is achieved. To be fair, I don't think there is ever likely to be a team in the foreseeable future that gets out of the Championship and is immediately able to compete in the Premiership without serious investment and restructuring. Not without some Man City style owners who don't care what the wage bill looks like and can somehow attract Premiership quality players to play in the lower league. Who can basically afford to pretend to be a Premiership club, while not actually enjoying the advantages of the top flight. This is because there seems to be a massive gulf at the moment between what it takes to stay financially healthy in the Championship, and what it takes to get serious in the Premiership (or be more than a yo-yo/middling club like Hull or Stoke). The path for these clubs seems to be getting up, and then hanging on for dear life through a combination of physical anti-football, good luck and small incremental improvement in the players they can attract and afford (without assuming too much risk since relegation remains a possibility). Newcastle have the advantage of more revenue and greater notoriety, but it is still the same boat. You need one type of team to be successful at this level, and another to be competitive in the Premiership. The fact that we don't look like a Premiership team at the moment and aren't playing great football is to be expected. I don't think there is a pretty way to win a poor league, with youngsters and has-beens. I'm not disheartened by that. Getting out of this league is the priority, and only the results get counted. My real worry is that if Hughton gets us up, then there would absolutely have to be a total, top down makeover to get things moving again. There is no chance of that happening with an owner that doesn't have a long term commitment to the club and without any professionals with experience of running a club. And very little (as much as I like him) with an inexperienced coach like Hughton. So that leaves you trying to do it the ugly way, which the fan base will not support, and will leave us in the same precarious position we were last season. Because we won't have the tolerance for underachievement that smaller clubs have (nor should we). Ashley has admitted himself that he was woefully inept at running the club last year, but he has yet to take any action and appoint someone that does. Someone that can plan, work with the manager, and isn't one of his inexperienced cockney friends. Aside from how obnoxious he is, how exactly is Derick Llambas qualified for the job he has? It's one thing to admit your mistakes, but it's another to make them again and expect different results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PJ87 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Away fans bringing 3000/4000 fans to SJP and then singing 'you're not famous anymore'. If we're not famous, then how come you don't take 4000 to Plymouth too? And of course your NOT a big club anymore By the way Swansea sold out their allocation of tickets 2 weeks ago .........Pretty much sums it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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