Michael Owen (now retired)

[merlin]

 

 

We've got a good scouting system, big money signings hadn't worked out for us, we're 8th in the league which isn't that bad, our fans are more unhappy when we're losing, his own stint here didn't work out, we can't compete with the mega-rich clubs, and he had no problems with Kinnear but felt he was from a bygone era.

 

Controversial.

 

OK, I'll bite.  One of our most expensive players was Shearer and he worked out perfectly for us, it was never what we paid, it was who we bought.  We're 8th in the league and I refuse to accept that is our level while Everton are in the top 6, something which he seems to think is beyond us, if they can do it then we should be able to.  Our fans being more unhappy when we lose is the same as the fans of every other competitive team sport so why even mention it?  As for mega rich clubs, look at Everton.  You don't even have to look at Everton, look at who won both domestic cups last season.

 

 

So you're quibbling over not being 2 places higher in the league. Want us to return to the transfer policies that brought us Owen, Martins, and relegation. Not concentrating enough on the cups. And denying the cringe-worthy, spiteful, echo chamber this place becomes when we lose a few on the bounce?

 

Yeah, he's the one in the wrong here.

 

What a load of bollocks, you're just invented something I haven't said and Everton are 5th which is 3 places higher and they're in a position to qualify for Europe which is hardly quibbling.

 

Oh, so where we finished not even two years ago.

 

Have you never heard of the saying which involves chickens, hatching and counting..?

I suggest you wait until the end of THIS season before you start crowing about either where we are now or something that we fluked 2 years ago and don't stand a cat in hell's chance of repeating.

 

We're a hell of a lot closer to 5th than we are to 17th.

 

I guess I need to spell it out - THERE ARE NEARLY 3 MONTHS LEFT TO GO..can you see where the next win - or even goal - is coming from..??

[mickthemagpie]

Pity he didn't discuss our approach to cup competitions a bit more where, using his own assessment, we should reasonably expect to reach at least the quarter finals most seasons. Difficult to see any argument about our league position other than we should be competing with Everton for 7th. Yippee.

[TaylorJ_01]

Thread title change, checking in - has he died then?

[Mick]

 

 

Perhaps not. But I object to the fact the 5th place was the fluke while 17th is an accurate reflection of how the club is doing. Why isn't it the other way around? As I've pointed out, we're closer to 5th right now than we are to 17th.

 

More to the point, if 5th isn't where we deserve to be, why is Michael Owen the c*** for echoing the same sentiment saying 8th is about right for us at the moment?

 

 

I don't want to be the one defending Pardew and tossers like Owen, but some of the biases on here are ridiculous. Can't see the wood for the trees.

 

If we finish 8th this season our average under Pardew will be 10th, one position from being equally distanced between 5th and 17th.  Nice finger pointing at the end though while showing masses of hypocrisy.

[Guest H09]

I think Owen is right that we only deal in extremities and there is no in between. It's been said by Mick Lowes and John Anderson recently as well, not just the cunt that Owen is. That's not to say we don't have a reason to be livid right now, but i do think more than most clubs it is in our nature to put a significant amount of emotion in.

[Ronaldo]

I think Owen is right that we only deal in extremities and there is no in between. It's been said by Mick Lowes and John Anderson recently as well

 

 

Ridiculous that you'd use those two utter cunts to defend Michael Owen. Sod off.

[Mick]

 

 

 

Ridiculous that you'd use those two utter c***s to defend Michael Owen. Sod off.

 

 

It's madness.

[Guest]

That BT Sport advert. Just shoot him man ffs.

[Dave]

Thread title change, checking in - has he died then?

 

I wondered this also.

[huss9]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/michael-owen-trends-and-gets-a-twitter-savaging-for-his-inane-commentary-during-liverpool-arsenal/

[Guest neesy111]

http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/02/newcastle-united-michael-owen-career-tyneside-fan-blog/

 

:anguish: :anguish: :anguish:

[Rocker]

Author: Phil Marriott is a Newcastle fan and blogger for NUFCfans.co.uk in amongst working as a care worker and spending time with his wife! Phil writes about current issues concerning Newcastle United

 

Howay Phil man, you utter cunt.

[Belfast Mags]

This thread getting bumped is always a massive

[triggs]

Author: Phil Marriott is a Newcastle fan and blogger for NUFCfans.co.uk in amongst working as a care worker and spending time with his wife! Phil writes about current issues concerning Newcastle United

 

Howay Phil man, you utter c***.

Spending time with his wife? That seems extremely relevant

 

[Dr.Spaceman]

http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/02/newcastle-united-michael-owen-career-tyneside-fan-blog/

 

:anguish: :anguish: :anguish:

 

Must be trolling.

[Belfast Mags]

Not necessarily 

[Norseman]

Every time this thread is bumped I'm reminded how much I despise this c***!

[Tisd09]

http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/02/newcastle-united-michael-owen-career-tyneside-fan-blog/

 

:anguish: :anguish: :anguish:

 

What a horrible article, are we sure Owen didn't write that under a different name. Surely even Owen's biggest NUFC Newcastle fan could have this kind of outlook on the situation.

[Jesse Pinkman]

That NUFCfans are on twitter aren't they? Pretty sure it's one of the major pro Pardew accounts which keeps going on about how good 8th is and it could be worse.

[afar]

I think Owen is right that we only deal in extremities and there is no in between. It's been said by Mick Lowes and John Anderson recently as well, not just the c*** that Owen is. That's not to say we don't have a reason to be livid right now, but i do think more than most clubs it is in our nature to put a significant amount of emotion in.

 

Oh ffs what toss. We are no worse than any other fans.

[Dinho lad]

I can't believe I've spent/spending/will spend my only time in this one life in the same time as this tit.

[The College Dropout]

He was 1 in 2 pretty much every season he played a good amount of games in.

 

 

In his club career he's got 222 goals in 482 appearances. That's pretty bloody good.

 

Technically, like any L'pool youth academy product he was sound. Zidane he was not but his all-round game was leagues ahead of the likes of Defoe, Bent or Cisse. A better striker and footballer than the likes of Pippo Inzaghi imo.

 

He wasnt technically good at all. If he was, his loss of pace wouldnt have detracted from his game so much. And he was also extremely one footed. He was an instinctive finisher with pace in his prime. That's basically all there was to him.

 

Injuries have bigger effect than pace. Players that lose their pace due to age rather than injuries tend to perform better.

 

Technically he wasn't world class but that doesn't mean he wasn't good technically at all. Being a good finisher requires good technique too.

[Ronaldo]

I still don't think he was as technically good as Defoe. Defoe struck a ball far better.

 

As a poacher he really should've scored far more goals, looking at the service he got throughout his career.

[NG32]

I still thought he was a good player for us, especially when KK moved him behind Viduka and Martins in a frint three.  So Owen could arrive late and not have to rely on his pace.

 

He was a very good footballer infact.

 

Just doesn't seem to own a heart.

 

http://images.elephantjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tin-man-from-the-wizard-of-oz-the-wizard-of-oz-4129262-550-403.jpg

[The College Dropout]

while he is correct in the basics it goes beyond that, simply put things could be a lot worse (and lord knows they have been) but things could be a lot better the club runs with a skeleton staff on all levels from the boardroom and money departments etc to the coaching staff right down to the playing staff. It doesn't require massive investment to improve 2 of those, more better qualified people on a board level will improve basic things like communication and PR (which is a disaster area) to the more complex like better sponsorship deals to maximize the resources available to the club.

An increased coaching staff would bring new ideas to the table on the first team level and other ways of coaching and maybe even new tactical idea's, increasing the coaching staff further down increases the probability of bringing through youngsters to the first team and saving money in the long run. Hell even the scouting department could do with a little more investment, more scouts covering a wider area so we're not just trying to tap into a depleting market in France where they've more than caught up with our transfer tactics.

The playing side is a bit more difficult and while in the short to medium term we'll never be able to match the spending power of City, Chelsea and co that doesn't mean we should give up. They can have greater proven quality of depth in squad than us obviously but we don't bother with depth at all, the best tactic for us to try to compete is either improve our academy (not a quick fix) or take gambles on young players from for example the lower leagues sure it mightn't work but better than trying to stand still which will only end up in us going backwards.

 

Also f*** you owen f*** you

 

Basically, Owen's correct points are facile. For the approach Ashley has adopted we are on par but that approach has shockingly low ambition. We've been more successful than Spurs/Everton for periods in recent history, our aim should at least to get on their footing. The problem is not that we aren't there, the problem is that we won't even try.

 

The cub stuff is an absolute joke.