Craig Bellamy

[Ronaldo]

Also didn't feign injury before going to Celtic. He did admit to walking off the training field, though.

 

Souness sat him down in front of the whole squad a few days after the Charlton incident and said he was going to 'fucking knock (him) out' and went to grab him by the throat but stumbled which made a few of the players laugh. Embarrassed, Souness then challenged him to a fight in the gym, which Bellamy declined.

[Interpolic]

Fucking pathetic.

[Cronky]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

[Interpolic]

That whole summer was fucking daft, Shepherd saying it was Robson's last season and it did seem like Shepherd had taken over the transfers by that point.

 

Think the story was that we could have had Carrick from West Ham for less than we bought Nicky Butt for, the manager was keen as was the player but Shepherd wasn't.

[madras]

Also didn't feign injury before going to Celtic. He did admit to walking off the training field, though.

 

Souness sat him down in front of the whole squad a few days after the Charlton incident and said he was going to 'f***ing knock (him) out' and went to grab him by the throat but stumbled which made a few of the players laugh. Embarrassed, Souness then challenged him to a fight in the gym, which Bellamy declined.

didn't he claim injury to leave the training field ?

[Superior Acuña]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

[Guest neesy111]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

 

Edit:

 

You talking about 03/04 or 04/05 ??

[Cronky]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

 

Ideally what would have happened at that point would have been Sir Bob saying to Shearer that they were going to have to blood in his replacement, and that Shearer would be used more as a squad player over the next season or two.

 

For Shearer that would have been unacceptable, and as we know he got his way and played as a first-team regular right up to the point of retirement, which was farcical.

 

I do think that Shearer getting his own way was bad for team morale and undermining of the manager’s position, and that led to Sir Bob’s dismissal. We then had the problem that no manager who wasn’t desperate was going to put themselves forward as Sir Bob’s replacement, having heard what had happened and why. So we ended up with Souness after a number of alternatives had turned us down.

 

Shepherd was a buffoon, and totally out of his depth.

 

[Ronaldo]

Shearer had a direct line to Shepherd within the chain of command which both Shepherd and Shearer abused to Bobby's detriment. I'm 100% convinced that Shearer hand picked Souness.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Shearer had a direct line to Shepherd within the chain of command which both Shepherd and Shearer abused to Bobby's detriment. I'm 100% convinced that Shearer hand picked Souness.

 

If that's true it nearly wipes out everything good Shearer did for us!

[Ste]

Also didn't feign injury before going to Celtic. He did admit to walking off the training field, though.

 

Souness sat him down in front of the whole squad a few days after the Charlton incident and said he was going to 'fucking knock (him) out' and went to grab him by the throat but stumbled which made a few of the players laugh. Embarrassed, Souness then challenged him to a fight in the gym, which Bellamy declined.

 

Sounds absolutely embarrassing, but totally expect that of Souness.

[Superior Acuña]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

 

Edit:

 

You talking about 03/04 or 04/05 ??

 

Apparently wanted sell him summer 03 but 03/04 was one of his best seasons (22 or 23). The decline started 04/05 (that was still decent but maybe a wise time to sell) (17 goals)

[Guest neesy111]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

 

Edit:

 

You talking about 03/04 or 04/05 ??

 

Apparently wanted sell him summer 03 but 03/04 was one of his best seasons (22 or 23). The decline started 04/05 (that was still decent but maybe a wise time to sell) (17 goals)

 

I agree 03/04 he was awesome.

 

04/05 in the league he was awful (the whole team was tbf).

[Guest neesy111]

Shearer had a direct line to Shepherd within the chain of command which both Shepherd and Shearer abused to Bobby's detriment. I'm 100% convinced that Shearer hand picked Souness.

 

Didn't Allardyce walk out of his interview as soon as he saw Shearer on the panel?  Souness was clearly 4th/5th choice.

[Superior Acuña]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

 

Edit:

 

You talking about 03/04 or 04/05 ??

 

Apparently wanted sell him summer 03 but 03/04 was one of his best seasons (22 or 23). The decline started 04/05 (that was still decent but maybe a wise time to sell) (17 goals)

 

I agree 03/04 he was awesome.

 

04/05 in the league he was awful (the whole team was tbf).

 

Sorry, yeah, he only got 7 in that season.  I guess Bobby could have gotten the decline a year prematurely as he'd scored 17 the season up to summer 03.  I didn't realise the decline happened so fast. A season after those 2 at the San Siro he only got 7, and a season later was his last.

[Ronaldo]

San Siro was 02-03.

[Ronaldo]

Shearer had a direct line to Shepherd within the chain of command which both Shepherd and Shearer abused to Bobby's detriment. I'm 100% convinced that Shearer hand picked Souness.

 

Didn't Allardyce walk out of his interview as soon as he saw Shearer on the panel?  Souness was clearly 4th/5th choice.

 

No idea dude.

[Guest neesy111]

The book's an absolute cracking read, like. He goes into more detail about his time with us than his other clubs. Fantastic anecdotes about Shepherd, Bobby and Souness. Shepherd comes across like a brilliant nutter. Bellamy didn't like him.

 

The important bits:

 

Shearer told the players personally than Bobby tried to sell him to Liverpool in 2003. Shepherd put the breaks on it. Bobby didn't know that Shearer knew so Shepherd apparently went to him first. Bellamy felt bitter about Shearer's role in Bobby's dismissal which led to tention and also said Dyer and Bobby were 'too close'.

 

Allardyce tried to swap Owen for Bellamy in 2007. Liverpool didn't want Owen back.

 

2003?! Shearer was still banging them in then. It was only after the following summer it slowed.

 

Good management is spotting the early warning signs and acting before it becomes a problem. That was the secret of Fergie's success.

 

Bob Paisley once said that if a player's legs are going to give out, make sure it's with another club and not yours.

 

The day Shepherd failed to back Sir Bob in moving Shearer on was the turning point. The club, and most of the supporters in the end, backed the wrong man.

 

But that summer preceded one of Shearer's 4 best seasons for us, I doubt moving him on that year would have improved us, much more likely harmed. A year later possibly.

 

Edit:

 

You talking about 03/04 or 04/05 ??

 

Apparently wanted sell him summer 03 but 03/04 was one of his best seasons (22 or 23). The decline started 04/05 (that was still decent but maybe a wise time to sell) (17 goals)

 

I agree 03/04 he was awesome.

 

04/05 in the league he was awful (the whole team was tbf).

 

Sorry, yeah, he only got 7 in that season.  I guess Bobby could have gotten the decline a year prematurely as he'd scored 17 the season up to summer 03.  I didn't realise the decline happened so fast. A season after those 2 at the San Siro he only got 7, and a season later was his last.

 

The fact that Shearer couldn't stand being on the bench cost the club badly in not getting a replacement and being able to afford a transition year.

[gdm]

pretty much says he had decided to leave Newcastle before his fall out with souness

[Fenham Mag]

Should put contains spoilers on the thread title.

[NG32]

That whole summer was f***ing daft, Shepherd saying it was Robson's last season and it did seem like Shepherd had taken over the transfers by that point.

 

Think the story was that we could have had Carrick from West Ham for less than we bought Nicky Butt for, the manager was keen as was the player but Shepherd wasn't.

 

I heard SBR had agreed a decent fee with wham but Shepherd wanted it cheaper again...Spurs came in with the asking price.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

That whole summer was f***ing daft, Shepherd saying it was Robson's last season and it did seem like Shepherd had taken over the transfers by that point.

 

Think the story was that we could have had Carrick from West Ham for less than we bought Nicky Butt for, the manager was keen as was the player but Shepherd wasn't.

 

I heard SBR had agreed a decent fee with wham but Shepherd wanted it cheaper again...Spurs came in with the asking price.

 

 

That actually makes me sad to read, criminal.

[Yorkie]

152 times Nicky Butt played for us. God.

[Interpolic]

Just looked and the respective fees were £3.5m for Carrick and a million less for Butt. Factor in wages, age, potential and the probability that Carrick will have been chomping at the bit to sign and it's a shocking football decision.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

152 times Nicky Butt played for us. God.

 

How many aimless chipped through balls in that time?