TRon Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I do wonder about Mitrovic in the championship. it's not like they have smaller defenders in the lower leagues, you'll need more than just strength to succeed in that division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap' I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers). Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo. The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap. Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will fucking eat Mitrovic alive, for example. yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast look at the championships top strikers recently Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic he will struggle like fuck in the division imo need to get rid of him asap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap' I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers). Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo. The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap. Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example. yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast look at the championships top strikers recently Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap I don't agree at all, I think hed be quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap' I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers). Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo. The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap. Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example. yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast look at the championships top strikers recently Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap I don't agree at all, I think hed be quality. what brings you to this conclusion? How promising he has been this season or his skilful attributes the guy has fuck all to be positive about him. not many would be confident in him getting 20 plus goals as thats what he will need to get in the championship for us to stand a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Shearer's favourite manager is Kenny Dalglish. He was instrumental in his appointment. He likes percentage-playing, attritional managers - and Sam Allardyce is right up his street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap' I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers). Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo. The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap. Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example. yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast look at the championships top strikers recently Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap I don't agree at all, I think hed be quality. what brings you to this conclusion? How promising he has been this season or his skilful attributes the guy has f*** all to be positive about him. not many would be confident in him getting 20 plus goals as thats what he will need to get in the championship for us to stand a chance He's had plenty of good games this season and has proved a handful. He'll hopefully be playing under a better manager, better team and against weaker opposition. Can easily see him getting 15+ next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap' I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers). Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo. The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap. Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example. yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast look at the championships top strikers recently Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap How many goals have Vokes, Gray, Wilson and Rhodes scored in the Premier League like? Mitro, for all his faults, has got 8 in a shite team and hasn't started every game this season, being benched for McClaren's first couple of games and obviously for much of Rafa's recent spell. He's also only 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 we will see, i would put money on that he won't be in the top 6 goalscorer in the league next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The defenders in the Championship might be "bigger and stronger" but they are also shitter than the defenders in the Premier League, which is why they play in a lower league. Mitro barely played consecutive games all season, he was in and out of the team constantly and still managed to end up with 8 goals. Also playing for one of the worst teams in the division. Yes he missed chances but Vardy, Kane and Aguero all missed chances this season. His conversion rate is actually quite good. If he is our main striker next season and we're at the top of the Championship, he'll be one of (if not the) top goal scorer in the Championship next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Canny bold like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The hatred towards Mitro is a bit too much like. Guy scored 8 goals despite not starting evey game in a new league and in a s**** team. He'll score three times that if he's here and we have a decent manager next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? "At the top" is what I said meaning anywhere from 1st - 6th imo he'll be top scorer, or very close. Don't see what is daft by that statement. Everyone who is claiming that he is shit seem to think he's incapable of scoring, so if he was our main striker and we were at the top he'd still be shit and not scoring, no? People have written this bloke off for no reason at all and a lot of people on here love to be dramatic and see everything and everyone negatively. He's a much better player than people give him credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? "At the top" is what I said meaning anywhere from 1st - 6th imo he'll be top scorer, or very close. Don't see what is daft by that statement. Everyone who is claiming that he is shit seem to think he's incapable of scoring, so if he was our main striker and we were at the top he'd still be shit and not scoring, no? People have written this bloke off for no reason at all and a lot of people on here love to be dramatic and see everything and everyone negatively. He's a much better player than people give him credit for. No he's not I've said it many times he has nothing to his game that will ever make him a decent striker 1. He can't jump or head a ball with conviction 2. He is as slow as a week in the jail 3. He can't shoot and panics like fuck everytime he gets in the box 4. He can't read the game at all 5. he never gets into positions where he'd be dangerous or look like scoring 6. He has no composure infront of goal All the idiots on here saying ah but its because he's 21 and in a new league is absolute bullshit and an excuse. Both man city and man united have 3 young lads between them upfront who are younger and never played in that league before yet they can do it simply because they have what is required to be a top level striker mitrovic simply doesn't have it and never will if you're good enough you're age is irrelevant saying that though he may find his level at the championship a bit like lovenkrands and ned kelly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Make your mind up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Make your mind up. i said he may i don't hold out any hope though, id rather have charlie austin in that league all day long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 You weren't on Byker Bridge the other day were you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The defenders in the Championship might be "bigger and stronger" but they are also shitter than the defenders in the Premier League, which is why they play in a lower league. Mitro barely played consecutive games all season, he was in and out of the team constantly and still managed to end up with 8 goals. Also playing for one of the worst teams in the division. Yes he missed chances but Vardy, Kane and Aguero all missed chances this season. His conversion rate is actually quite good. If he is our main striker next season and we're at the top of the Championship, he'll be one of (if not the) top goal scorer in the Championship next season. http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/mike-williamson-360.png He got 20 goals in a 30 league season in Belgium. How does that league compare to the Championship? I've never watched it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 id guess out of the top 3 or so in Belgium the rest will be Championship standard at best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? "At the top" is what I said meaning anywhere from 1st - 6th imo he'll be top scorer, or very close. Don't see what is daft by that statement. Everyone who is claiming that he is shit seem to think he's incapable of scoring, so if he was our main striker and we were at the top he'd still be shit and not scoring, no? People have written this bloke off for no reason at all and a lot of people on here love to be dramatic and see everything and everyone negatively. He's a much better player than people give him credit for. No he's not I've said it many times he has nothing to his game that will ever make him a decent striker 1. He can't jump or head a ball with conviction 2. He is as slow as a week in the jail 3. He can't shoot and panics like fuck everytime he gets in the box 4. He can't read the game at all 5. he never gets into positions where he'd be dangerous or look like scoring 6. He has no composure infront of goal All the idiots on here saying ah but its because he's 21 and in a new league is absolute bullshit and an excuse. Both man city and man united have 3 young lads between them upfront who are younger and never played in that league before yet they can do it simply because they have what is required to be a top level striker mitrovic simply doesn't have it and never will if you're good enough you're age is irrelevant saying that though he may find his level at the championship a bit like lovenkrands and ned kelly That list is wrong on all counts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? "At the top" is what I said meaning anywhere from 1st - 6th imo he'll be top scorer, or very close. Don't see what is daft by that statement. Everyone who is claiming that he is shit seem to think he's incapable of scoring, so if he was our main striker and we were at the top he'd still be shit and not scoring, no? People have written this bloke off for no reason at all and a lot of people on here love to be dramatic and see everything and everyone negatively. He's a much better player than people give him credit for. No he's not I've said it many times he has nothing to his game that will ever make him a decent striker 1. He can't jump or head a ball with conviction 2. He is as slow as a week in the jail 3. He can't shoot and panics like fuck everytime he gets in the box 4. He can't read the game at all 5. he never gets into positions where he'd be dangerous or look like scoring 6. He has no composure infront of goal All the idiots on here saying ah but its because he's 21 and in a new league is absolute bullshit and an excuse. Both man city and man united have 3 young lads between them upfront who are younger and never played in that league before yet they can do it simply because they have what is required to be a top level striker mitrovic simply doesn't have it and never will if you're good enough you're age is irrelevant saying that though he may find his level at the championship a bit like lovenkrands and ned kelly Probably also helps if you have Pellegrini or Van Gaal coaching you and not Steve McClaren. Or if you're getting service from Silva or Mata instead of Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? "At the top" is what I said meaning anywhere from 1st - 6th imo he'll be top scorer, or very close. Don't see what is daft by that statement. Everyone who is claiming that he is shit seem to think he's incapable of scoring, so if he was our main striker and we were at the top he'd still be shit and not scoring, no? People have written this bloke off for no reason at all and a lot of people on here love to be dramatic and see everything and everyone negatively. He's a much better player than people give him credit for. No he's not I've said it many times he has nothing to his game that will ever make him a decent striker 1. He can't jump or head a ball with conviction 2. He is as slow as a week in the jail 3. He can't shoot and panics like fuck everytime he gets in the box 4. He can't read the game at all 5. he never gets into positions where he'd be dangerous or look like scoring 6. He has no composure infront of goal All the idiots on here saying ah but its because he's 21 and in a new league is absolute bullshit and an excuse. Both man city and man united have 3 young lads between them upfront who are younger and never played in that league before yet they can do it simply because they have what is required to be a top level striker mitrovic simply doesn't have it and never will if you're good enough you're age is irrelevant saying that though he may find his level at the championship a bit like lovenkrands and ned kelly Probably also helps if you have Pellegrini or Van Gaal coaching you and not Steve McClaren. Or if you're getting service from Silva or Mata instead of Colback. I also like how one of his examples, Depay, have a worse conversion rate than Mitrovic as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMTW Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? "At the top" is what I said meaning anywhere from 1st - 6th imo he'll be top scorer, or very close. Don't see what is daft by that statement. Everyone who is claiming that he is s*** seem to think he's incapable of scoring, so if he was our main striker and we were at the top he'd still be s*** and not scoring, no? People have written this bloke off for no reason at all and a lot of people on here love to be dramatic and see everything and everyone negatively. He's a much better player than people give him credit for. No he's not I've said it many times he has nothing to his game that will ever make him a decent striker 1. He can't jump or head a ball with conviction 2. He is as slow as a week in the jail 3. He can't shoot and panics like f*** everytime he gets in the box 4. He can't read the game at all 5. he never gets into positions where he'd be dangerous or look like scoring 6. He has no composure infront of goal All the idiots on here saying ah but its because he's 21 and in a new league is absolute bullshit and an excuse. Both man city and man united have 3 young lads between them upfront who are younger and never played in that league before yet they can do it simply because they have what is required to be a top level striker mitrovic simply doesn't have it and never will if you're good enough you're age is irrelevant saying that though he may find his level at the championship a bit like lovenkrands and ned kelly Probably also helps if you have Pellegrini or Van Gaal coaching you and not Steve McClaren. Or if you're getting service from Silva or Mata instead of Colback. I also like how one of his examples, Depay, have a worse conversion rate than Mitrovic as well. Can't tell if lampooning.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I thought Martial, Rashford and Iheanacho would be the three he meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Comparing Mitro to a £60m signing wonderkid and three players playing for teams who score and create hundreds of chances more than us along with being at the top of the league and winning more games. Give me strength. Some people shouldn't be allowed internet access. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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