Collage Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Shearer changed a lot over his career as well, from what I remember he was pretty quick in the early days. Credit to Sir Bobby for revitalising him. Saved his career according to Shearer himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Out of interest who has an opinion of what the next striker trend will be. 80/90 was generally 2 up front big man little man combo, then 00/10/20 single guy supported by to wide forwards(pretty much a Mourinho creation) Can see it going to 3 out and out strikers when a decent team has some success with it I don’t know, but I hope it goes back to two up front, as I love a good striker partnership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 At the risk of sounding like Mike Bassett 4-4-2 will come back strong in the next 2-3 years. We've already seen very attacking full backs become intrinsic to how the top teams play and the width they provide is such a key area. Sooner or later a top manager will say to themselves rather than having lots of central players I can overload wide areas with winger and full back and have strikers work the channels more as well. As pressing is more and more popular the 4-4-2's shape and also it's compactness from a defensive point of view is also going to become key. We've already seen that in La Liga with the press and physicality of Eibar and Getafe and it's going to creep back here more and more. I'd be very surprised if the likes of Ancelotti (who's always loved the 4-4-2) doesn't start having some success with that at Everton. Though in the current era I'd say it'll tend to be more of a diamond midfield than the traditional style. A last point on this, in an economic environment affected by the rona a 4-4-2 could be perceived as a cheaper model tactically. You don't need the more specialized roles of some of the other formations. You can have very different strikers, wingers or central midfielders on the wings, and midfield doesn't have to have a holding player for example. Or, if you're Tony Pulis or How's The Bacon Bruce you can have four centre halves across your back four. Ramble over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gjohnson Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 At the risk of sounding like Mike Bassett 4-4-2 will come back strong in the next 2-3 years. We've already seen very attacking full backs become intrinsic to how the top teams play and the width they provide is such a key area. Sooner or later a top manager will say to themselves rather than having lots of central players I can overload wide areas with winger and full back and have strikers work the channels more as well. As pressing is more and more popular the 4-4-2's shape and also it's compactness from a defensive point of view is also going to become key. We've already seen that in La Liga with the press and physicality of Eibar and Getafe and it's going to creep back here more and more. I'd be very surprised if the likes of Ancelotti (who's always loved the 4-4-2) doesn't start having some success with that at Everton. Though in the current era I'd say it'll tend to be more of a diamond midfield than the traditional style. A last point on this, in an economic environment affected by the rona a 4-4-2 could be perceived as a cheaper model tactically. You don't need the more specialized roles of some of the other formations. You can have very different strikers, wingers or central midfielders on the wings, and midfield doesn't have to have a holding player for example. Or, if you're Tony Pulis or How's The Bacon Bruce you can have four centre halves across your back four. Ramble over. We're England and we play 442. None of that fancy foreign s***t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What's your favourite Shearer goal? Classic old-style centreforward play. We won't see his like again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 At the risk of sounding like Mike Bassett 4-4-2 will come back strong in the next 2-3 years. We've already seen very attacking full backs become intrinsic to how the top teams play and the width they provide is such a key area. Sooner or later a top manager will say to themselves rather than having lots of central players I can overload wide areas with winger and full back and have strikers work the channels more as well. As pressing is more and more popular the 4-4-2's shape and also it's compactness from a defensive point of view is also going to become key. We've already seen that in La Liga with the press and physicality of Eibar and Getafe and it's going to creep back here more and more. I'd be very surprised if the likes of Ancelotti (who's always loved the 4-4-2) doesn't start having some success with that at Everton. though in the current era I'd say it'll tend to be more of a diamond midfield than the traditional style. A last point on this, in an economic environment affected by the rona a 4-4-2 could be perceived as a cheaper model tactically. You don't need the more specialized roles of some of the other formations. You can have very different strikers, wingers or central midfielders on the wings, and midfield doesn't have to have a holding player for example. Or, if you're Tony Pulis or How's The Bacon Bruce you can have four centre halves across your back four. Ramble over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What's your favourite Shearer goal? Classic old-style centreforward play. We won't see his like again. Always gets neglected how good his passing and crossing was too. Could have got another 50 if he was on the end of his own crosses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Shearer was a great striker because the only thing he had on his mind was putting the ball in the net. He had the technique to do it and the anticipation and reading of the game to always be in the right position but the best asset he had was that hunger and drive to score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I miss having a striker and goalscorer like him in our team man. We could have always relied. Instead, we have Joelinton now who cost much much more than the great man but is absolute shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What's your favourite Shearer goal? Classic old-style centreforward play. We won't see his like again. Always gets neglected how good his passing and crossing was too. Could have got another 50 if he was on the end of his own crosses Bar injuries - he would have broken 300 PL goals I reckon and chased down Jimmy Greaves' record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Annoys the fuck out of me how bad he is on Fifa, and anyone under 20 seems to think he was absolute shite based on that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What's your favourite Shearer goal? Classic old-style centreforward play. We won't see his like again. Always gets neglected how good his passing and crossing was too. Could have got another 50 if he was on the end of his own crosses Bar injuries - he would have broken 300 PL goals I reckon and chased down Jimmy Greaves' record. 283 top flight goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What's your favourite Shearer goal? Classic old-style centreforward play. We won't see his like again. Always gets neglected how good his passing and crossing was too. Could have got another 50 if he was on the end of his own crosses Bar injuries - he would have broken 300 PL goals I reckon and chased down Jimmy Greaves' record. Always a maybe, but considering he missed pretty much two full seasonsthrough injury, and a while with Gullit, being in a bad team for most of it it's not an unreasonable claim. If he had gone to Man Utd instead of us, could have easily seen 400 given the respective paths of the teams in that time. How terrifying would Shearer and Van Nistelrooy been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What's your favourite Shearer goal? Classic old-style centreforward play. We won't see his like again. Always gets neglected how good his passing and crossing was too. Could have got another 50 if he was on the end of his own crosses Bar injuries - he would have broken 300 PL goals I reckon and chased down Jimmy Greaves' record. Aye, he had his fair share of long term injuries. Terrifying to think how many he would have scored if he didn't have those injuries. Just shows how amazing a striker he was. One of the greatest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Wonder if he ever looks at his international record and wonders if he thinks he could have done more? 30 in 63 is canny, but when you see the likes of average strikers like Crouch with 22 in 42, Defoe 20 in 57...even Platt got 27 in 62, I think he should have got closer to 40 at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Wonder if he ever looks at his international record and wonders if he thinks he could have done more? 30 in 63 is canny, but when you see the likes of average strikers like Crouch with 22 in 42, Defoe 20 in 57...even Platt got 27 in 62, I think he should have got closer to 40 at least. How many of Crouch's and Defoe's were in tournaments though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Well not as good as Shearer but there was a 2 year spell leading up to Euro 96 for instance when he was bang in his prime that could have boosted his numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I miss having a striker and goalscorer like him in our team man. We could have always relied. Instead, we have Joelinton now who cost much much more than the great man but is absolute s***. Shearer would have cost more than Joelinton in the current market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Loved his Everton 1/4 Final goal to make it 4-1 in 1999. Just seen it on the BBC Tweet for him and it’s very similar to Willems & Matty Longstaff v Man U last season in set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I miss having a striker and goalscorer like him in our team man. We could have always relied. Instead, we have Joelinton now who cost much much more than the great man but is absolute s***. Shearer would have cost more than Joelinton in the current market Shearer would cost more than Neymar and MBappe in current market World record fee for a striker in their prime...would be looking at 250-300m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I imagine a few haven’t seen this before! https://twitter.com/newcastlefanstv/status/1293821921734332416?s=21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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