Exiled in Texas Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 They will be able to sell players, I don't think that's even a question once they've gone into administration. Selling is not the problem, but can the buying club register the player for this season - or are you buying said player at the knock-down bargain price only to "loan" them to Pompey for the rest of the season, and then they join the buying club in the summer? Or are the FA granting exemptions to allow clubs to register ex-Pompey players outside of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 They will be able to sell players, I don't think that's even a question once they've gone into administration. Selling is not the problem, but can the buying club register the player for this season - or are you buying said player at the knock-down bargain price only to "loan" them to Pompey for the rest of the season, and then they join the buying club in the summer? Or are the FA granting exemptions to allow clubs to register ex-Pompey players outside of the window. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Ambrose When we signed Darren Ambrose form Ipswich in similar circumstances, he signed in March and made his debut for us in May, so there wasn't a problem playing him the same season, even though we'd signed him outside of the Transfer Window. I think there was an initial intention ot Loan him straight back to Ipswich, but not sure why that didn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I wonder if Newcastle and Ipswich being in different divisions made a difference? I can't see teams at the bottom of the league being happy if the concede goals to teams featuring ex-Pompey players and get relegated because of it. There'd be court cases going on everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 As Exiled says the problem is not in them being able to selling their assets but in registration rules. There is no way in hell the PL or FIFA are able to bypass the laws of the land and block the selling of assets (players) by the the clubs. They can however implement a system that does not allow buyers to register those players with the league they administer. It would be interesting though to see someone like Pompey challenge that through EU law of free movement of goods and people. Football is a special case in some laws, but you never know they could win a case the makes transfer windows illegal, that would really open up a hornets nest. I doubt though pompey have the time and money necessary to pursue that course of action. Oh and the other isssue they have is finding a buyer for these players, they need the money right now, most clubs have spent their budgets now for the year and pompey don't have that many really saleable assets. Can't see too many clubs being prepared to pay them up front for players they may not be able to register until next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Although we call it the "Transfer Window" it's really better defined as the "player registration window". Premier League and Football League already have rules on this (as do other countries hence how players can sign for teams from other counties outside of our window). As for finding buyers....that all depends on how good the bargains are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 They will be able to sell players, I don't think that's even a question once they've gone into administration. Selling is not the problem, but can the buying club register the player for this season - or are you buying said player at the knock-down bargain price only to "loan" them to Pompey for the rest of the season, and then they join the buying club in the summer? Or are the FA granting exemptions to allow clubs to register ex-Pompey players outside of the window. What I'm talking about about is a full transfer with the buying club being able to field the player competitively straight away. Once a club goes into administration they can invoke a crysis clause to allow them to sell their players outside the transfer window with the transfer going through immediately. The Premier League/FA wouldn't allow them to do it last time they made the request because tney weren't in admin and therefore not officially in a crisis as far as the Premier League/FA were concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Portsmounth now 1000/1 ON to get relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Portsmounth now 1000/1 ON to get relegated 17 points clear of safety with 12 games remaining, having only collected 16 points in their 26 games so far. If they lose 9 points tomorrow, their maximum possible points will be 43 if they win all of their remaining games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 If they did survive then it would be the greatest relegation escape ever. The points deduction also means it is possible for them to go down with the fewest points in a season aswell, beating Derby's of 11 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Be interesting to see if the administrator sends O'Hara straight back to Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 They will be able to sell players, I don't think that's even a question once they've gone into administration. Selling is not the problem, but can the buying club register the player for this season - or are you buying said player at the knock-down bargain price only to "loan" them to Pompey for the rest of the season, and then they join the buying club in the summer? Or are the FA granting exemptions to allow clubs to register ex-Pompey players outside of the window. What I'm talking about about is a full transfer with the buying club being able to field the player competitively straight away. Once a club goes into administration they can invoke a crysis clause to allow them to sell their players outside the transfer window with the transfer going through immediately. The Premier League/FA wouldn't allow them to do it last time they made the request because tney weren't in admin and therefore not officially in a crisis as far as the Premier League/FA were concerned. Ah, interesting. Wonder who is the first to go in the fire sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 going to admin, doesn't mean they won't get wound up, it means they are most likely to! it's bascially the owners trying to get as much of their investment's back, before being wound up Shouldn't be wound up if they enter administration. http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company-rescue/guides/What-is-a-winding-up-petition.aspx Other than pay up there are only a few other options. There may still be time to propose a Company Voluntary Arrangement if you act FAST....call Keith Steven on 07974 086779 for a chat. Other options include taking legal advice on defending the petition (if is not an agreed debt for instance). If the business IS VIABLE and has a good future then administration is a very powerful means to defend the company against the petition. Administration will “stay” (or stop) the winding up petition and prevent a winding up order being made and any other legal action (except with leave of court). The administrator may propose a Company Voluntary Arrangement to protect the business and allow a repayment of debts for up to 5 years. Or it may be sold to a new company or buyers (including you as directors). See the administration guide pages here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Be interesting to see if the administrator sends O'Hara straight back to Spurs. If Portsmouth are paying his wages then yes, if not then I'm sure he will stay, unless Portsmouth are paying for his accomadation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 How will the Portsmouth players react to the club going in to administration? Will they be paid? They may raise their game to try to impress potential future employers. They may just think "what's the point?" and go through the motions not wanting to risk an injury playing for a doomed club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 How will the Portsmouth players react to the club going in to administration? Will they be paid? They may raise their game to try to impress potential future employers. They may just think "what's the point?" and go through the motions not wanting to risk an injury playing for a doomed club. Couldnt give a fuck what the players think, its not like another club wont pick them up and offer them a similar wage and not forgetting these cunts have been paid well in the past. Its not going to be like a 50 year old steel working who has only known the steel industry and has suddenly found that he has no job. Fuck the players. People i feel sorry for are the none playing staff and the fans. The players and board members are a bunch of cunts. FACT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 How will the Portsmouth players react to the club going in to administration? Will they be paid? They may raise their game to try to impress potential future employers. They may just think "what's the point?" and go through the motions not wanting to risk an injury playing for a doomed club. Couldnt give a fuck what the players think, its not like another club wont pick them up and offer them a similar wage and not forgetting these cunts have been paid well in the past. Its not going to be like a 50 year old steel working who has only known the steel industry and has suddenly found that he has no job. Fuck the players. People i feel sorry for are the none playing staff and the fans. The players and board members are a bunch of cunts. FACT. My point wasn't 'let's feel sorry for the players', my point was 'How are the player going to react?'. They may play like shite for the rest of the season. It can't be good for motivation knowing no matter how well you do the club are almost certain to be relegated and you won't be there next season. Also I'm sure I've read if the players get paid late 3 times their contracts become void and they can walk for free if they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 How will the Portsmouth players react to the club going in to administration? Will they be paid? They may raise their game to try to impress potential future employers. They may just think "what's the point?" and go through the motions not wanting to risk an injury playing for a doomed club. Couldnt give a f*** what the players think, its not like another club wont pick them up and offer them a similar wage and not forgetting these c***s have been paid well in the past. Its not going to be like a 50 year old steel working who has only known the steel industry and has suddenly found that he has no job. f*** the players. People i feel sorry for are the none playing staff and the fans. The players and board members are a bunch of c***s. FACT. My point wasn't 'let's feel sorry for the players', my point was 'How are the player going to react?'. They may play like s**** for the rest of the season. It can't be good for motivation knowing no matter how well you do the club are almost certain to be relegated and you won't be there next season. Also I'm sure I've read if the players get paid late 3 times their contracts become void and they can walk for free if they want. If the players cant play for personal pride then they are even bigger cunts then normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's the players and their agents demanding so much money and being greedy that has got Portsmouth into this situation, aswell as Portsmouth's stupidity aswell for going along with it, fuck the players, it's not like they have a mortgage to pay for, I find it very hard to believe that someone on as much money as they are on a week don't save up and buy houses etc in one go rather then getting mortgages and such, if that is the case then the players should have enough morals to play for nothing, or as little as they can get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's the players and their agents demanding so much money and being greedy that has got Portsmouth into this situation, aswell as Portsmouth's stupidity aswell for going along with it, fuck the players, it's not like they have a mortgage to pay for, I find it very hard to believe that someone on as much money as they are on a week don't save up and buy houses etc in one go rather then getting mortgages and such, if that is the case then the players should have enough morals to play for nothing, or as little as they can get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's the players and their agents demanding so much money and being greedy that has got Portsmouth into this situation, aswell as Portsmouth's stupidity aswell for going along with it, f*** the players, it's not like they have a mortgage to pay for, I find it very hard to believe that someone on as much money as they are on a week don't save up and buy houses etc in one go rather then getting mortgages and such, if that is the case then the players should have enough morals to play for nothing, or as little as they can get away with it. People who own and run the club being daft cunts more like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Grant came across as a really good guy in his Sky interview, feel sorry for him and the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Grant came across as a really good guy in his Sky interview, feel sorry for him and the fans. he is a good guy, underrated manager imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 How dare the players accept alot of money? Any self-respecting person would have turned round and said "Oooh that's a bit high. How about you just give me half?" Nobody put a gun to the back of the Pompey board and force them to hand ridiculously high wages. The blame rests solely at the feet of the muppets in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Feel for the Pompey fans, a canny bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 How dare the players accept alot of money? Any self-respecting person would have turned round and said "Oooh that's a bit high. How about you just give me half?" Nobody put a gun to the back of the Pompey board and force them to hand ridiculously high wages. The blame rests solely at the feet of the muppets in charge. All footballers are cunts, i have a serious lack of sympathy for any of them, regardless of what club they play for at the top or at the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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