loki679 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I would guess it's a number somewhere between the known numbers and the unknown numbers. NPW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Can anyone fill in the blanks? Fulham Commercial 2007- £7.5 2008 - £8.5 2009 - £8.6 2010 - You are 2011 - not 2012 - £11.9 Fulham Matchday 2007- £8.7 2008 - £9.6 2009 - £11.2 2010 - the 2011 - beginning 2012 - £14.7 WBA Commercial 2007- £6.4 2008 - £6.3 2009 - £6.5 2010 - £4.9 2011 - of the 2012 - £8.9 WBA Matchday 2007- £8 2008 - £6.3 2009 - £6.7 2010 - £6 2011 - bell 2012 - £7.9 Think I cracked it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26433208 PORTSMOUTH LEEDS LIVERPOOL Article doesn't mention they spent £50m on players last year and only recouped £6m. They could cover that loss and turn it into a profit approaching as much simply by selling Suarez. Losses on player trading aren't necessarily bad. They were for us because we bought £16m crocks and let their contract wind down, spunked tens of millions on utter s*** on ridiculous wages, long term....like Portsmouth and Leeds Losses are losses. Of course they could have sold Suarez and broken even but...they didn't. They are clearly reaping the reward of breaching Suarez's contract and making a loss, by having a stronger squad and (most likely) qualifying for the CL. If we could run at a loss of 50M a year then I'd expect us to be better too...but we aren't and can't. We don't have the disproportionately high commercial income, or owners willing to subsidize losses over a sustained period of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Some losses are far worse than others, how worrying it is really depends on what causes the loss. Not too familiar with Liverpool's finances though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26813363 Southampton: new board say financial situation 'difficult' By Nabil Hassan BBC Sport New Southampton director Hans Hofstetter says the club's board have inherited a "difficult financial situation". Hofstetter spoke as Southampton published their annual results for the year ending 30 June 2013 - their first back in the Premier League. The club posted a net loss of £7.1m and will enter the summer window owing £27m in outstanding transfer fees. A bill in excess of £30m is also pending for their new training ground. Previous chairman Nicola Cortese resigned in January, with Ralph Krueger replacing him. Hofstetter joined the board at the same time. "Whilst I perceive that we have inherited a difficult situation financially, there are now clear and structured plans in place to progress the club and avoid a similar situation from occurring again," Hofstetter said in a statement. Cortese was at Southampton from 2009 and was widely credited with helping to bring stability off the pitch after years of financial turmoil. However, Hofstetter says the new board must act now to eradicate some of the "burdens" of that regime. Speaking to BBC Radio Solent, he added: "Of course it's a burden, but it's a burden that has to be covered and will be covered. "When I came in from the outside I had different information, I was surprised but not disappointed. It is what it is and my culture is to look to the future and accept the past." That past means Southampton will begin next season with a transfer debt of £27m - despite already repaying £21m of fees this season alone - but Hofstetter says that will not lead to the sale of star players such as Luke Shaw, Jay Rodriguez and Adam Lallana. "The most important point is that we are in a position where we do not need to sell any player Mauricio [Pochettino] wants to keep," Hofstetter added. "We have a very strong squad and we are still in a situation where we are free enough to act quickly if quick action is asked from us." The over-spend on the club's new training ground at Staplewood is also significant, with the expected total cost now more than £30m - up from an original estimate of £15m. However, the wage-to-turnover ratio has fallen sharply - from 102% to a healthier 65% - after the removal of exceptional bonuses associated with promotion. Operating profit is up to £8.7m, although that becomes a net loss of £7.1m once transfer expenditure is taken into account. Commercial income rose from £4.8m to £6.7m after Southampton's ascension to the top flight. The Liebherr family, represented by non-executive chairman Katharina, injected a further £12.5m during the financial year, with another £2.2m in September 2013 bringing the total investment to £52.7m. However, £37.9m of that has been converted into equity shares, bringing the club's net liabilities down to £1.6m from £32.4m in 2012. Financial highlights Total revenue increased 213% to £71.8m (2012: £22.9m) with average league attendances up from 26,427 to 30,807. Broadcasting income grew from £5.6m in 2011/12 to £46.9m in 2012/13. Match day income of £11.8m in 2011/12 has risen to £16.9m in 2012/13. Commercial income increased from £4.8m in 2011/12 to £6.7m in 2012/13. Total group wages, including player wages, increased to £47.1m in 2013 from £28.7m in 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 L'pool board are thinking long-term. Get them back in the CL and competitive. Invest in young exciting players with serious potential, move stadium and they'll reap dividends in the long haul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Considering they are running at an operating profit - Southampton will be okay if they stick to what they can afford in transfers. They'll probably cash in on one of their home-grown assets however. Shaw would be the best move. Leftbacks don't tend to be the difference between relegation fight and midtable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 L'pool board are thinking long-term. Get them back in the CL and competitive. Invest in young exciting players with serious potential, move stadium and they'll reap dividends in the long haul. Bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Considering they are running at an operating profit - Southampton will be okay. They spent another £35m or so after those accounts didnt they? Osvaldo & Wanyama were nigh on £30m on top of the outstanding transfer debts but with the new TV money they should be ok in a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Considering they are running at an operating profit - Southampton will be okay. They spent another £35m or so after those accounts didnt they? Osvaldo & Wanyama were nigh on £30m on top of the outstanding transfer debts but with the new TV money they should be ok in a few years. I think those two signings are why Cortese got the boot. Those are Leeds/Portsmouth signings for sure. The home-grown players are a life saver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Considering they are running at an operating profit - Southampton will be okay. They spent another £35m or so after those accounts didnt they? Osvaldo & Wanyama were nigh on £30m on top of the outstanding transfer debts but with the new TV money they should be ok in a few years. I think those two signings are why Cortese got the boot. Those are Leeds/Portsmouth signings for sure. The home-grown players are a life saver. I completely forgot all about Wanyama until nufc.com had him listed as injured. Dont think i have seen him play for them yet Two daft signings for them to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Spurs announce profits of £23m, revenue of £147m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Spurs announce profits of £23m, revenue of £147m. Good for them. I imagine they'll pour every penny back into transfers and wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Spurs announce profits of £23m, revenue of £147m. Is that before transfers? Considering they are running at an operating profit - Southampton will be okay. They spent another £35m or so after those accounts didnt they? Osvaldo & Wanyama were nigh on £30m on top of the outstanding transfer debts but with the new TV money they should be ok in a few years. I think those two signings are why Cortese got the boot. Those are Leeds/Portsmouth signings for sure. The home-grown players are a life saver. I completely forgot all about Wanyama until nufc.com had him listed as injured. Dont think i have seen him play for them yet Two daft signings for them to make. Tbf he has made 16 starts for them this season and is only 22. Hasn't been match-fit since before Christmas. Way to early to write off yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I just saw it on BBC news headlines. You'd have to do a search to see the detail of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Spurs announce profits of £23m, revenue of £147m. Is that before transfers? That's a misleading quote - not sure where neesy was getting that from. Profits before football trading and depreciation were 23.4M, but apparently profit for the year after interest and tax was 1.5M. Better than the year before, but not exactly a license to spend. The big question mark is still the new ground, and the one remaining property we need that has had a CPO pending for a ludicrous amount of time. Otherwise, it's business as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Nice delete Bottledog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Nice delete Bottledog Pffft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 "A bill in excess of £30m is also pending for their new training ground." and Pele practiced with a tin can on some rubbish heap anyone else wonder if these training grounds are worth while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 "A bill in excess of £30m is also pending for their new training ground." and Pele practiced with a tin can on some rubbish heap anyone else wonder if these training grounds are worth while? Depends if they can accommodate a borehole or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Ben Rumsby @ben_rumsby 25m Press Association confirming @TelegraphSport exclusive that both #mcfc and #psg have breached Uefa FFP rules. Let the fun begin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 As if anything will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 As if anything will happen. Father of a PSG director Michel Platini already said nowt serious would. Fine work all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 @SkySportsNews Uefa offer Manchester City & PSG settlements for alleged breaches of financial fair play #SSN Is this saying what I think it is? :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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