Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I'd say Taylor's the biggest liability. For all his fuck ups he gets away with a lot of little niggles & pushes etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Does he really make more mistakes than the other three? I don't think so. He's the only real defensive organiser that we have, and has proved his worth to the side for that reason. I'd keep the Willo-Mapou combination going and see how it develops. In theory, their different strengths should dovetail. Of course he doesn't but Newcastle fans always like a scapegoat and it's usually the lad that always gives 100% but isn't blessed with the most ability who kops for it. Warren Barton used to get ridiculous abuse at times back in the 90's as did the likes of Mark Stimson in the late 80's/early 90's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The criticism of him was always OTT. I look forward to you saying the same exact thing when Cisse starts scoring again (if he does, that is). Willo's criticism was anything but over the top, but coming from someone who's taken on what seems like a personal vendetta against Cisse, it sounds lush. Cisse has scored 6 league goals in 2013. Cabaye may have scored more than that. Cisse's general play was never very good and now his finishing has been of for 18 of the 23 or so months he's been here. Williamson is a limited defender no doubt but he's not terrible. As we have seen, he is capable of putting in solid shifts. As a back-up player he's decent enough. Add that he's a good character and a leader the criticism has been OTT. I don't understand vitriol against players that clearly give it 100%. Save that for your Cisse's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The criticism of him was always OTT. Never, I still hold my breath when he is passed the ball and he still 98% of the time clears it to the other team. He was out jumped by smaller players a few times yesterday too. He does give 100% and he is clever but he is still too slow and nervous on the ball. 4th choice is fine. I think he is looking better because the other 3 recently are not playing as good as they have done, Taylor especially. He wins more headers than any of our defenders regardless. He is a central defender being crap with the ball isn't the worst attribute to have. He is too slow (so is Colo) and poor on the ball and he has other issues tbf but that still doesn't mean he deserves all the extra stick he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The criticism of him was always OTT. Bit rich coming from you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Some people have cleary forgotten some of Willo's performances last season that forced us to sign Mapou. Old Trafford and at Home to reading come to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 He has been excellent since returning to the side and in stark contrast to how "shot away" he looked at the end of last season. It's clear that he still doesn't like the ball at his feet, and though football has changed a lot it has to be remembered that a great ManU and a great Arsenal team were built around centre half's who did little other than win the headers and organise their defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Some people have cleary forgotten some of Willo's performances last season that forced us to sign Mapou. Old Trafford and at Home to reading come to mind. Aye but i do think Mapou suits him perfectly.... Willo's problem is his lack of athleticism and pace and Mapou makes up for that and by and large Williamson makes up for Mapou's weaknesses. If he stays with Mapou then i think you will see more consistently performances as they dovetail each other very well. On Taylor the biggest problem i have with him when he's actually fit is he's far too aggressive with his positioning which leads to gaping holes behind him people have to cover for. The biggest thing i like about Willo is he's aware of his weaknesses and won't come out of his comfort zone and hurt the team, Taylor on the other hand tries to do things he's not capable of to the detriment of those around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Mike Williamson has been superb recently, and deserves all the plaudits he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 At this point, if we need to get rid of a CB to sign a new one, I would rather keep Willo than Saylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 At this point, if we need to get rid of a CB to sign a new one, I would rather keep Willo than Saylor. Yep, sensible option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Taylor needs a leader alongside him but phsyically he's more up to the job than any of our CBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Taylor needs a leader alongside him but phsyically he's more up to the job than any of our CBs. Depends what you mean by 'physically'. The bloke's a wreck. Got to be the only man in football who could apparently do his hamstring walloping Sergio Aguero round the back of the head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Needs to be able to manage a satisfactory number games per season before anything. Absolute crock. 227 appearances in 11 seasons is poor, it's getting worse as he gets older too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Taylor needs a leader alongside him but phsyically he's more up to the job than any of our CBs. Physically the strongest without doubt. His problem has always been, for me, the posing/pantomime shit he engages in at expense of just doing his job You don't need to tell me that, man. Once upon time I was known on here for having a vendetta against the lad when in actual fact I just wasn't falling for his crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It was the inhaling and sticking his chest out after making a a straightforward tackle or clearance that got me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Aye he's definitely got a bad case of pigeon chest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I'm sure he'd be handy in a pub brawl. Take a few bottles to the noggin and crack some jaws. But the guy's clearly a bit thick and it hinders his play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 He'd do his back throwing a punch. Apparently Carroll only lightly slapped him and still broke his jaw in 6 places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's the blatant grandstanding that annoys me. You care, we get it, just play the fucking game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 What's even the matter with Taylor, hasn't even played to get injured the shit cunt. Useful in the one game he did play though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I'm sure he'd be handy in a pub brawl. Take a few bottles to the noggin and crack some jaws. But the guy's clearly a bit thick and it hinders his play. I don't know why but this gave me the mental image of Taylor and Owen Wilson in the one of those comedy western pub/saloon brawls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Mike Williamson has been superb recently, and deserves all the plaudits he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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