KaKa Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Was such a daft move for Sinclair to go to City. After he struggled to break into Chelsea's side, to reviving his career at Swansea to leave that for City and have things stall again... Would add a lot to our team but I'm not getting excited about any potential signings until I see them holding/wearing the shirt. I'm not getting excited about any potential signings until Pardew plays them in their right position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 •GMcK @Glen_McKitten Joe kinnear spotted outside of tesco just got back from the airport by the looks of it @nufcfans #nufc #ITK pic.twitter.com/FgPXI2Kc10 First comment: Danny Empson @danny_empson 3h @Glen_McKitten @nufcfans hahahahaha aye, landed in newcastle airport.. Went straight to tesco at chester le street Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Urgh. Had a dream we signed Sinclair last night. Everyone put all your money you've ever earned on it, it's going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Urgh. Had a dream we signed Sinclair last night. Everyone put all your money you've ever earned on it, it's going to happen. Done! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 eurgh. So whilst every other bugger's out spending the extra TV money we're doing what exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 If that striker plus one over equates to Remy and Sinclair i'd be delighted tbh. Holding my breath mind, but as said before we don't need a lot just quality in key areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 eurgh. So whilst every other bugger's out spending the extra TV money we're doing what exactly? Saving up as much as possible so we don't fall foul of those financial fair play laws. You'll thank him in X years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Basically IMO we lost out by not changing manager. In theory our squad is very good with the right boss but we don't have that so our only chance was to sign players. Spend our way out of trouble. We aren't going to do that. Worrying time IMO first team. the squad is rubbish. and that's not excluding Pardew from blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Ths squad is not rubbish..... if it were then the majority wouldn't be happy with 2-3 signings like many are. If we are 2-3 signings away from having a good squad then it can't be a crap squad like many seem to claim. If the squad was rubbish we would be requiring half a dozen plus new signings yet we don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Basically IMO we lost out by not changing manager. In theory our squad is very good with the right boss but we don't have that so our only chance was to sign players. Spend our way out of trouble. We aren't going to do that. Worrying time IMO first team. the squad is rubbish. and that's not excluding Pardew from blame. The first team is crying out for at least 2 players to solve the goals and creativity problem. The first team is unbalanced and the squad is poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Ths squad is not rubbish..... if it were then the majority wouldn't be happy with 2-3 signings like many are. If we are 2-3 signings away from having a good squad then it can't be a crap squad like many seem to claim. If the squad was rubbish we would be requiring half a dozen plus new signings yet we don't. The majority are happy with 2 or 3 signings as they know thats the most we are ever likely to get this summer, 3 is fantasy in honesty. If we actually reviewed the squad as a whole, after the first team it's a majorly weak team. Elliot, Tavernier, Williamson, Gosling, Jonas, Vuckic ,Obertan, Sammy & f***ing Shola are the players filling in if injuries occur. If you think that's a good squad then fair play but imo its shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 eurgh. So whilst every other bugger's out spending the extra TV money we're doing what exactly? I think it could be that Pardew is in last chance saloon as far as Ashley is concerned, and he may not want to spend a hefty sum this summer in case he has to bin the manager by October. On the other hand if he is giving Pardew one last chance, then surely he must back him? I reckon things will become clearer after the first pre-season game with the full squad together again after the internationals have come back. Could also be that we're bracing ourselves for bids for some of our star players. Edit: Did I just post in the wrong thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Ths squad is not rubbish..... if it were then the majority wouldn't be happy with 2-3 signings like many are. If we are 2-3 signings away from having a good squad then it can't be a crap squad like many seem to claim. If the squad was rubbish we would be requiring half a dozen plus new signings yet we don't. The majority are happy with 2 or 3 signings as they know thats the most we are ever likely to get this summer, 3 is fantasy in honesty. If we actually reviewed the squad as a whole, after the first team it's a majorly weak team. Elliot, Tavernier, Williamson, Gosling, Jonas, Vuckic ,Obertan, Sammy & f***ing Shola are the players filling in if injuries occur. If you think that's a good squad then fair play but imo its shocking. Most of them are like 4th choices though..... as for Jonas and Shola i have already said we are in desperate need of a striker and a winger. If you look at the squads in the league most of their 4th choices are crap but that is why they are 4th choices. The only areas for me where crap happens to get very close to the team is winger and striker and we can all agree that we are very weak there. I don't believe the majority of the squad is weak or small though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 We'll have to agree to disagree on that then mate. Like I say if all our first XI plus one or 2 more are fit, then aye good team, but i'll maintain we have a really poor squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Fair enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I agree with Mole, we are 2-3 players from a very good squad imo. If we signed Sinclair, Bent and Remy we would be pretty class. A lot of teams will have to rely on their youth players at times so with those signings we would be doing what most do. Krul, Elliot* Youth - Alnwick Debuchy, Colo, MYM, Taylor, Williamson, Haidara, Santon Youth - Tavernier, Ferguson, Streete, Good, Dummett Cabaye, Tiote, Anita, Sissoko, Bigi, Marveux, Jonas Youth - Inman, Newton, Vuckic HBA, Gouffran, Sinclair, Obertan, Remy, Bent, Cisse Youth - Campbell, Sammy 23 seniors (3 a bit dodgy but that's not bad iyam) and 10 youth players who could cover for the odd game if we are really struggling. I doubt many clubs would have that sort of depth. *I think he is a lot more capable than quite a few seem to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Can you move Ferguson out of defence in that list. It's bothering me. edit: i'd also say that there is still a lack of creativity in midfield (particularly with Marveux's dodgy injury history) and Williamson isn't good enough given that he will play quite a bit as Taylor is also injury prone and I firmly believe that we will not see a MYM, Colo partnership unless absolutely necessary next season under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Ferguson and Sammy are 22 and 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 On a personal note - I play football a lot. I'm 22 and really strongly feel my best days are way behind me. This makes me worry about these lads. Obviously I'm at a much, much, much, much lower level but the principals are the same, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Can you move Ferguson out of defence in that list. It's bothering me. edit: i'd also say that there is still a lack of creativity in midfield (particularly with Marveux's dodgy injury history) and Williamson isn't good enough given that he will play quite a bit as Taylor is also injury prone and I firmly believe that we will not see a MYM, Colo partnership unless absolutely necessary next season under Pardew. So Pardew is going to play Williamson over MYM? Ferguson in midfield or defence I wouldn't exactly shit myself if he played the odd game at left back tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Can you move Ferguson out of defence in that list. It's bothering me. edit: i'd also say that there is still a lack of creativity in midfield (particularly with Marveux's dodgy injury history) and Williamson isn't good enough given that he will play quite a bit as Taylor is also injury prone and I firmly believe that we will not see a MYM, Colo partnership unless absolutely necessary next season under Pardew. Completely agree but given how Pardew plays i don't think think its something that matters all that much because we don't use it. As long as Pardew is manager all the creativity will come from forwards, which is why its important IMO we sign a forward who can create things himself and for others and a winger who isn't allergic to running at the defence with decent delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 On a personal note - I play football a lot. I'm 22 and really strongly feel my best days are way behind me. This makes me worry about these lads. Obviously I'm at a much, much, much, much lower level but the principals are the same, no? No not really. Pretty sure Messi isn't thinking "Fuck, better start winding down my career, my best years are way behind me now" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 If we get a rake of crocks like last term, we'll see how good the squad is. All depends on how full the treatment room is. Best we can hope for this window is one striker and maybe a wide player. Two extra players. Squad depth to me is about seeing what the alternatives are to the problem positions. Now take away the player's we haven't got yet out of that list and then take away our key players. It all of a sudden looks extremely weak imo. It's all ifs and buts granted. I'd love to put faith in our kids and but they need to start showing something soon if they're given the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Tbf if we keep getting injuries like last year the squad will never be big enough and quite frankly if some of the top 6 had a similar injury list they would have struggled too. But those clubs don't get injuries like that because they prepare properly, train properly and probably have better facilities ( not certain on that though) We shouldn't have to be getting a squad that is so big to cover for that amount of injuries, instead these injuries shouldn't be taking place. I understand that injuries are part and parcel of it all but not like that, all very avoidable IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Can you move Ferguson out of defence in that list. It's bothering me. edit: i'd also say that there is still a lack of creativity in midfield (particularly with Marveux's dodgy injury history) and Williamson isn't good enough given that he will play quite a bit as Taylor is also injury prone and I firmly believe that we will not see a MYM, Colo partnership unless absolutely necessary next season under Pardew. So Pardew is going to play Williamson over MYM? Ferguson in midfield or defence I wouldn't exactly s*** myself if he played the odd game at left back tbh. In place of Taylor, yes he probably will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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