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Forget if LC is full of scum or Yuppies the people I have beef with are the c***s who leave the game before end. There are more & more leaving earlier with each game.

 

couldn't agree more, although there is another group even worse than them,  the ones who come in 5 mins after kick off,  leave to get a half time pint 5 mins before HT, come back 5 mins into the 2nd half and then piss off before the end!! 

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Forget if LC is full of scum or Yuppies the people I have beef with are the c***s who leave the game before end. There are more & more leaving earlier with each game.

 

couldn't agree more, although there is another group even worse than them,  the ones who come in 5 mins after kick off,  leave to get a half time pint 5 mins before HT, come back 5 mins into the 2nd half and then piss off before the end!! 

 

I know the type it is like the match is an excuse for them to drink & they go just to say they have been.

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I take your point, but generalisations are hard to avoid and the average age in the LC has to be significantly lower than the rest of the ground.  Apart from the ever expanding family section, which is another contributing factor to the decline in the atmosphere as it acts as barrier to the chants emanating from the LC reaching the Gallowgate, and vice versa.

 

The real problem with the singing section is the location. It doesn’t really connect with the rest of the ground and is so far from the pitch that many long time supporters simply wouldn’t consider moving there. If you’ve grown up being able to see the detail of the play upping sticks to L7 is a big sacrifice. So we’ve ended up with a singing section that doesn’t accurately represent the crowd as a whole. It isn’t a catalyst for getting chants going, it’s just its own little world. Again this isn’t a criticism of its occupants; it’s not their fault Ashley decided to stick the singing section in the remotest part of the ground.

 

The important thing is to remember we all support the club and the reason there’s more noise from the LC isn’t because it’s jammed packed with uber supporters. We’d be far better off campaigning for the singing section to be extended into the lower corner of the Leazes (or something like that) than slagging each other off.  In an ideal world this is the kind of stuff NUST would be getting involved in but for whatever reason they’re not.

 

 

The Leazes corner became the singing section for two reasons.  The first was that the away fans who were put in the corner made a massive amount of noise and it was thought that the acoustics were better in the corner.  That's probably right as the corner has two walls for the sound to bounce off and it's thrown towards the pitch.  The other reason was to put the away fans at the end of the Leazes which meant that we had less empty seats due to segregation.  That was a good move by the club and it wasn't Ashley who made the decision, it was the Chairman at the time.

 

Without trying to blow 'our' own trumpets the 'Ultras' did their upmost to obtain a singing section. Two blocks, three-quarter full next to the away fans led to us taking a full portfolio or whatever you want to call it to the clubs officials, asking for a singing section - a certain Russell Cushion (?) was who we took it to. A year later the singing section was introduced and the re-jigging of sections of the ground began.

 

They obviously recognised the need for the atmosphere to change and addressed it. Fair enough, it would be better in the lower parts of the ground - but as many 'East Standians' would put it who would want thousands of Charvas singing cringeworthy s**** next to the pitch. (Or to put it my way, why would the club want to charge £5 less than what they could charge people for sitting/standing in that section of the ground.)

 

The whole ground is fast becoming more positive, and the Leazes Corner is respected by most imo. (Which isn't the Ultras because they just make a tiny minority of it). But those interested in making a vocal backing have fast gone to the heavens and it's been the best decision the board have made in the last 2 or 3 years.

 

I must admit, I get pissed off with the attitude of Level 7 being full of kiddy charvas with little sense or wit, simply because a lot of people who say that have probably never experienced it before. Then again, I would be pissed off thinking I paid £1,000 for a season ticket and told I was a s*** fan because I barely sang. In reality, that is football these days and we should all learn to get along. We all support the same team, whether it be financially or vocally.

 

Two final things to consider though, those who sit in the East Stand have probably been there, done that and done all the vocal s****, relegations and promotions. BUT - those in Level 7 might be there one day - you can't exactly hold our f***ing age against us, because believe me when I say that at least 90% of that lot up there will be there in 30years time, just like the elder lot in the East Stand, so years of support is irrelevant. Also, those in Level 7, I would say are the vast majority of our away contingency, so while a lot of us sit back saying our fans are great they took 6,000 to Barnsley and basically made it their own, please remember where these are likely to be sat at home games.

 

All an opinion like...but I'm trying to balance things out here.

I’d agree that it’s unfair to brand LC as some kind of chav haven that’s devoid of wit, and I don’t think anyone holds the age of the supporters up there against them. It only becomes an issue when ‘older’ fans start getting branded s*** supporters by somebody who has only been turning up for few years - as opposed to few decades.

 

I’m not at all convinced that LC makes up the majority of our away support either – it only holds 3000 and there were 7000 at Barnsley for a start. I don’t want this to be fight though. I just think some of the LC regulars need to think a bit about why there’s more singing in a singing section and cut out the everybody else is s*** supporters nonsense. Reflect on the role they play as part of the support as whole; be a little bit less self-absorbed.  In the same way a small minority of posters on here can give a bad impression of the LC, the LC corner can in turn create a bad impression of the SJP faithful. By default the LC has been handed a position of responsibility, and it’ll all end in tears if they fail to understand this.

 

The atmosphere has been more positive this season, but so have results so it’s hard to draw any conclusions about how effective the LC has been in helping generate a better atmosphere. It was there last season and the atmosphere was largely crap. Time will tell if the creation of the LC has been a success. There’s been too much crap over the last few years to really tell what effect it has had.

 

 

To be fair, the whole who called who first thing is a matter of opinion and something I'll never agree with you. In my opinion the rest of the ground started it about Level 7 and as a previous Season Ticket holder in the middle tier of the Leazes end, I have had personal experience of the discontent for people not only going up there to sing their hearts out but for people who want to stand on their own in the middle of tea stand and sing (not for the whole game purely just for when a song is being sang, might I add.)

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Nothing like over analysing things. The last few pages are ridiculous! Just go to the game and enjoy yourselves, don't worry about others.

 

One thing, that 'new' song is just a copy of the Liverpool version.

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Nothing like over analysing things. The last few pages are ridiculous! Just go to the game and enjoy yourselves, don't worry about others.

 

One thing, that 'new' song is just a copy of the Liverpool version.

 

:doh: Who the fuck cares. I hardly think anyone was hoping for an Ivor Novello award for it.

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Nothing like over analysing things. The last few pages are ridiculous! Just go to the game and enjoy yourselves, don't worry about others.

 

One thing, that 'new' song is just a copy of the Liverpool version.

 

:doh: Who the f*** cares. I hardly think anyone was hoping for an Ivor Novello award for it.

Not me, hence my first sentance ;)

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Forget if LC is full of scum or Yuppies the people I have beef with are the c***s who leave the game before end. There are more & more leaving earlier with each game.

 

I've mastered the art of timing it so you get to the bottom of the stairs just as the whistle goes.

 

Same here, walk down when the added time board is up and sit next to my mate further down the Gallowgate when those around him have left so when the final whistle goes we are right next to the access and away :pow:

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Guest Brazilianbob

Anyone remember this one:

 

Aye aye aye aye

McFaul is better than Yashin

Wyn Davies is better than Eusabio

and Sunderland are in for a thrashin!

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Is it not a bit daft one second you're singing "We don't care about Ashley" then the next song is "Get out of our club".

 

Yeah it is. However, it does depend on the interpretation of not caring about someone...

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Is it not a bit daft one second you're singing "We don't care about Ashley" then the next song is "Get out of our club".

 

Yeah it is. However, it does depend on the interpretation of not caring about someone...

 

How do you mean?

 

Some people might interpret not caring about Ashley as in he's irrelevant which would take the literal meaning. Others might interpret not caring about Ashley as not liking him.

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Guest Roger Kint

Is it not a bit daft one second you're singing "We don't care about Ashley" then the next song is "Get out of our club".

 

All we sing about is Ashley

But he doesnt give a shit about me

All he cares about

is my money

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Guest The_Scoreboard

Did you see the FCB celebrating after yesterdays game on The Football League show? He aint going nowhere :sadnod:

 

Was he ecstatic like?

 

smiling his big fat face off and shaking hands in an almost 'high five' style

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