ponsaelius Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 God it would be amazing to see his reputation smashed and Sunderland to go to shit at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The issue of the large squad of bad players he assembled has got to be a big worry. Presumably they are on decent contracts and the new manager won't be able to move them on easily. Pro footballers go to Sunderland for one of two reasons. They have no other Premiership options or they get a deal which is way over the odds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Somebody like Hughes or a young, forward thinking manager from the lower leagues would be a better fit. Somebody who can be shrewd and build a good side on a budget. O'Neill would only go to Sunderland if they give him a massive chequebook to spend with and that will be the worst possible thing longterm for the mackems. Based on his past signings he'd have to spend about £100 million to get Sunderland into 7th/8th (he got 6th with Villa but it's more of a closed shop now). It'll give them better years than they've had for a while but it would cripple them long-term in the same way it is currently doing to Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 we could potentially be entering the stage at which they try everything they possibly can to get rid of Brown and O' Shea much earlier than I'd anticipated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Nobody would touch those two with a barge pole, they are on 4 year deals on a reported 60 k a week. No one is that stupid and TBH its not like they have preformed well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 How much did all that spending increase the wage bill? He had big earners sitting doing nowt(Beye, NRC, Shorey, Davies etc) so you could argue its an even higher net spend tbh Two years ago, our wage bill was considerably higher than Tottenham's. We were paying Steve Sidwell 50k a week. They were paying Modric half that at the same time. Too many of our players sat around picking up 40k a week and offering nothing. Which manager, for example, would sanction giving a nearly-32 year old Emile Heskey 65k a week for three years? Or Beye, at 32, a three year 40k a week deal? That's what we are cutting back on now, not so much transfer spend, but wage bill, because it got so massively out of reality. Or 32 year old Brown on a four year deal, or 30 year old O'Shea on a four year deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Honestly will find it strange if they go with O'Neill. He's a more high profile, super-charged version of their last two managers. Mid-range English clubs like Sunderland should really give the European model a try instead of just handing a chequebook to your typical, run of the mill British managers who'll spunk a load of money on domestic players in search of relative success. Then when the next manager turns up they decide they don't like half the squad and need to change everything again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 he played 3 centre halves at Leicester, could see him doing that with Larrson and Richardson as wingbacks. O'SHEA TITUS or TURNER BROWN LARRSON RICHARDSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Mags will be fucking bricking it http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=11307233#post11307233 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 he played 3 centre halves at Leicester, could see him doing that with Larrson and Richardson as wingbacks. O'SHEA TITUS or TURNER BROWN LARRSON RICHARDSON Sebastian Larsson can barely do the running of one position let alone the effective running of two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 milesstarforth Miles Starforth Alan Pardew also said he was 'disappointed' at Steve Bruce's dismissal, & praised his overall record as manager as 'excellent'. #nufc #safc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 #nufc AP says Steve Bruce told him by txt on Monday that he wanted to fight on at #safc. AP also said he doesn't care who comes in next Kept in contact with his employers obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Pretty sure "at" read as "against" in the original text Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Brewce and Pardeaux converse via text? What is this madness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Pardew is Bruce's 'handler' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Brewce and Pardeaux converse via text? What is this madness? Well he had to liaise back to the club with his undercover work, didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I fkn love Steve Bruce. Gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sifu Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 brummie's posts about O'Neill being meh has somewhat made feel a bit better about the prospect of the mackems appointing him. I can actually see O'Neill doing well to begin with. Then when the money does eventually come in, he'll probably waste it all which means that the mackems ultimately won't progress. In the long term, O'Neill probably won't be the best option. In any case, O'Neill seems to be the man who wants money to spend and he'll unlikely to get that at the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I think someone mentioned it earlier, they need to gut their current system and go for a longer term replacement. A manager with fresh ideas and systems WITH players in mind to fit his style of play. What they dont want to do is continue on this ploughing money into the same type of manager every 2 to 3 years and having to chuck out the old players for new ones. This next appointment is quite important for them and it will be interesting to see where they go from here... Will a new young manager who is on a long term project satisfy the mackems RAMPANT need to be ahead or have one up on the mags. WIll they plumb for another mid table clogger manager. Its in the balance, its going to be an intersting couple of weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Stuck a fiver on Benny Boy Benitez. The man is desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Really not fussed who they hire. Would be surprised if they do sign O'Neill, or anyone decent tbh, but we're having such a good season- have beaten them once already, only lost once and it's December, 4th in the league- could not care less about those cretins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Can you imagine Benny in Sunderlolz man "it is a FACT that we are top dogs" Aww man, his spanish accent meldged with mackem...would it be coined as spackem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Really not fussed who they hire. Would be surprised if they do sign O'Neill, or anyone decent tbh, but we're having such a good season- have beaten them once already, only lost once and it's December, 4th in the league- could not care less about those cretins. Im just interested to see which way they go, oh how I wish big sam was out of a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 mind, brummie must be getting very excited to see who O'Neill takes off their hands in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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