Cronky Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think when Pardew was talking about a certain 'genre' of striker, he meant someone that could play off the main target man. I reckon he thinks he only needs two of Ba, Shola and Best, as they'd all have a similar role, and Best is the one who can go. Deal with it, peeps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Nah, he is good enough to be considered a reserve striker in our current position. We're stronger than last year in the attacking department, the club is still looking to strengthen but will not be held to ransom in what is a very precarious financial market. How you be anything but satisfied is beyond logic. We've switched Carroll for Ba, if anything we're weaker. Infact we've hardly improved any of or squad since the start of last season. Carroll for Ba (bad), Nolan for Cabaye (good), Marveaux in. Gosling (meh) and Ben Arfa coming back obviosly are a bonus, but we're still in a position where a couple of injuries could seriously damage us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think if you look at the whole squad it's clear that we are using the Carroll sale to good effect. Besides, there is still ages left in the window... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Nah, he is good enough to be considered a reserve striker in our current position. We're stronger than last year in the attacking department, the club is still looking to strengthen but will not be held to ransom in what is a very precarious financial market. How you be anything but satisfied is beyond logic. Based on ? Signing Ba, of course. But we had Carroll last year... Not for the second half of last season, which is what we are building on :confused: The second half of our season suggested we needed ATLEAST 2 new strikers in. Ameobi and Lovenkrands we're starting week in week out, it was horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think if you look at the whole squad it's clear that we are using the Carroll sale to good effect. Besides, there is still ages left in the window... I'm with you, but for some reason people are freaking out because there's been a lull in our activity. I really think if we'd signed the players we had more recently, spaced them out more or spent more on them, people would be loving our transfer dealings so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think if you look at the whole squad it's clear that we are using the Carroll sale to good effect. Besides, there is still ages left in the window... Not predicting the future but so far the Carroll money has allowed us to sign 2 freebies with dubious injury records. This is what has actually happened so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 We've invested in the squad beyond that and the club are looking to further invest. Smile you bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well, you and I are a very long way apart in terms of satisfaction if that's the eventual outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think the constant nothingness being reported over about five articles every day in the Journal/Chronicle is making people incredibly tetchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well, you and I are a very long way apart in terms of satisfaction if that's the eventual outcome. So if we sign Ba and another striker, you still won't be satisfied? How many strikers were you expecting us to buy this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well we aren't trying hard enough, simple as that. If we cannot land Erdinc and such then go lower, even if what we bring in is someone on par with Best for a couple of million it will be better than going into the season with nobody. Simply put, Shola Ameobi or Peter Lovenkrands SHOULD NOT be starting games next season, and theres absolutely no reason that they should be. And we may play 4-5-1, but I doubt we will/could play it all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well, you and I are a very long way apart in terms of satisfaction if that's the eventual outcome. So if we sign Ba and another striker, you still won't be satisfied? How many strikers were you expecting us to buy this summer? No, Dresden said if we didn't sign another striker he would be ok with that. That means he's ok with swapping Carroll for Ba. That's not good enough for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well we aren't trying hard enough, simple as that. If we cannot land Erdinc and such then go lower, even if what we bring in is someone on par with Best for a couple of million it will be better than going into the season with nobody. Simply put, Shola Ameobi or Peter Lovenkrands SHOULD NOT be starting games next season, and theres absolutely no reason that they should be. and I'm fairly certain that is exactly what the club is trying to do. Keep your annoyance on hold until it's valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well, you and I are a very long way apart in terms of satisfaction if that's the eventual outcome. So if we sign Ba and another striker, you still won't be satisfied? How many strikers were you expecting us to buy this summer? No, Dresden said if we didn't sign another striker he would be ok with that. That means he's ok with swapping Carroll for Ba. That's not good enough for me like. Ah sorry, misread it. I would definitely want another striker in, but I still think with Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Ba we are a better attacking side than before. All the signs suggest we are looking for another forward IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well, you and I are a very long way apart in terms of satisfaction if that's the eventual outcome. So if we sign Ba and another striker, you still won't be satisfied? How many strikers were you expecting us to buy this summer? No, Dresden said if we didn't sign another striker he would be ok with that. That means he's ok with swapping Carroll for Ba. That's not good enough for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well we aren't trying hard enough, simple as that. If we cannot land Erdinc and such then go lower, even if what we bring in is someone on par with Best for a couple of million it will be better than going into the season with nobody. Simply put, Shola Ameobi or Peter Lovenkrands SHOULD NOT be starting games next season, and theres absolutely no reason that they should be. And we may play 4-5-1, but I doubt we will/could play it all season. How can you say we aren't trying hard enough? We've made a good number of signings and there's still plenty of time left in the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. But, with the other additions to our midfield and the possibility of playing 4-5-1 I would be content if we were unable to add another striker. Well we aren't trying hard enough, simple as that. If we cannot land Erdinc and such then go lower, even if what we bring in is someone on par with Best for a couple of million it will be better than going into the season with nobody. Simply put, Shola Ameobi or Peter Lovenkrands SHOULD NOT be starting games next season, and theres absolutely no reason that they should be. and I'm fairly certain that is exactly what the club is trying to do. Keep your annoyance on hold until it's valid. What annoyance? I'm responding to your views that we'd be alright going into the season withought signing another striker. I don't think we will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think if you look at the whole squad it's clear that we are using the Carroll sale to good effect. Besides, there is still ages left in the window... We're short at the back and upfront with our friendlies starting in a few days. This can't be considered as anything other than slightly worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 As said, you sell one very good striker you gotta replace him with atleast another or two pretty good strikers. Ba seems the latter to me & i want another. Carroll was bullying defences, i think Ba's more of a finisher. Maybe with a better team behind him, Ba will impress. Either way we should have the money to get two quality strikers to replace Carroll still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think if you look at the whole squad it's clear that we are using the Carroll sale to good effect. Besides, there is still ages left in the window... We're short at the back and upfront with our friendlies starting in a few days. This can't be considered as anything other than slightly worrying. Sounds like a bad haircut. Agreed mind, this window started out with promise but the club has managed to squeeze the joy out of it in no time. Not feeling as confident as I was at the start, but guess that was season ticket renewal time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 As said, you sell one very good striker you gotta replace him with atleast another or two pretty good strikers. Ba seems the latter to me & i want another. Carroll was bullying defences, i think Ba's more of a finisher. Maybe with a better team behind him, Ba will impress. Either way we should have the money to get two quality strikers to replace Carroll still. I think Ba and Carroll will be close in the goalscorers charts next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 There is still well over a month to go till the window shuts, and at the minute we have a stronger squad than the one that finished last season. Now isn't the time to panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think Ba will score more goals than Carroll (both playing the same amount of games) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 There is still well over a month to go till the window shuts, and at the minute we have a stronger squad than the one that finished last season. Now isn't the time to panic. Not panicing yet, but imo our aim should be to start this season with a squad better than the one we started with last, not what we ended it with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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