NUFCDoog Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 A lot of Pardew's interviews lately don't fill me with confidence I have to say. Saying things like "trying to get the owner to spend" and talking to Llambias about how much will be reinvested. We needed to spend a fair bit before Carroll left, so we should be spending at least £20m-£25m on 3 or 4new players, can't see that happening though. aye its not so much "it will be " as " i hope it will be" "we're going to bring in four or five players" Read More Source Better? That articles from March. I can seriously see us only bringing in 2 players plus selling Enrique. We'll be f***ed next season, with Nolan a year older etc, we need at least 4 new players, 5 if we sell Enrique, crisis time if we end up selling Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 A lot of Pardew's interviews lately don't fill me with confidence I have to say. Saying things like "trying to get the owner to spend" and talking to Llambias about how much will be reinvested. We needed to spend a fair bit before Carroll left, so we should be spending at least £20m-£25m on 3 or 4new players, can't see that happening though. What makes it worse is that HE told us that all of the Carroll money would be spent on the team/squad/club. Now he's got the begging bowl out. Not good at all. If he's honest he'll admit he hasn't got a clue what's going on, not that it'll happen of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander68 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Thinking back i can't think of many good signings Pardew has made in his career. Yossi Benayoun is the only one that springs to mind. What about Tevez and Mascherano? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Thinking back i can't think of many good signings Pardew has made in his career. Yossi Benayoun is the only one that springs to mind. What about Tevez and Mascherano? What about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Looks like Gameiro could be going to PSG. If he's gonna be an idiot about it, then good riddance. PSG, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flatline Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 honestly 4-5 "big" players... could be a busload of free transfers like elmander etc... Its pretty clear for all to see that Pardew has got fuck all to say about spending this summer... might as well interview Nolan about it as they seem to be on equal footing as far as having a say is concerned.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 If the two players were say N'Zogbia and A.N.Shithotstriker AND we kept all the good players already at the club then you could feasibly argue that two was enough. Won't happen like that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 A lot of Pardew's interviews lately don't fill me with confidence I have to say. Saying things like "trying to get the owner to spend" and talking to Llambias about how much will be reinvested. We needed to spend a fair bit before Carroll left, so we should be spending at least £20m-£25m on 3 or 4new players, can't see that happening though. What makes it worse is that HE told us that all of the Carroll money would be spent on the team/squad/club. Now he's got the begging bowl out. Not good at all. If he's honest he'll admit he hasn't got a clue what's going on, not that it'll happen of course Isn't it a bit early to start getting depressed on the basis of a few vague quotes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 "trying to get him to spend" Fuck off man. Ashley promised reinvestment, so should deliver on it, the fat lying prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 After the Carroll scenario he's probably not going to make a guarantee that he's not 100% sure he can keep. I think he'll bring in N'Zogbia, Ireland and a striker then look to replace Campbell and Enrique if they leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 A lot of Pardew's interviews lately don't fill me with confidence I have to say. Saying things like "trying to get the owner to spend" and talking to Llambias about how much will be reinvested. We needed to spend a fair bit before Carroll left, so we should be spending at least £20m-£25m on 3 or 4new players, can't see that happening though. What makes it worse is that HE told us that all of the Carroll money would be spent on the team/squad/club. Now he's got the begging bowl out. Not good at all. If he's honest he'll admit he hasn't got a clue what's going on, not that it'll happen of course Isn't it a bit early to start getting depressed on the basis of a few vague quotes? Depressed? No. Realistic about what's likely to happen? Certainly. I'd be happy with a decent squad, even if it cost virtually nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 For fuck sake some of you. Even if Ashley has promised money (privately) for transfers, Pards is hardly gonna blurt out in an interview/presser: "Yes, I had a chat with Mike and we've got £25m+ to spend this summer". That would only serve to add £2, 3, 4 million onto a players valuation when we became interested. It's not the way to do business. Remember the 'No Capital Outlay' speech last summer? We all thought we were doomed but we actually managed to have a very good window. I can understand having reservations about Ashley/Llambias based on their previous but please don't make assumptions on our summer transfer activity based on a few vague quotes from Pards. Unless there is some kind of official club statement relating to a lack of transfer funds then I'm holding out for a decent window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Just a thought for those already sharpening their pitchforks: A) Pardew comes out and says "We've got £30m to spend, we're going to go on a spending spree!". All other clubs hike their prices up and we get fucked roundly in the ass spending £30m on 2 crap players bought as panic buys on deadline day B) Pardew says he's "Trying to get the owner to spend" and is able to negotiate a lot of really good deals, and we still spend £30m by the end of the window Which would people prefer? Why on earth would the manager come out and declare he has bucketloads of money to spend? What benefit could this possibly have to the club or our ambitions in the transfer market this summer? Not saying B is definitely true, but to completely discount the fact that we're just being a bit clever about how we go about things is fucking madness. [Cue all the "cockney mafia out" mob screaming "Waaaaa, but it's Ashley man, he's trying to destroy us!"] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What has been clear from the very start of Ashley's tenure is that he doesn't tell his managers how much they have to spend. Whether that's just him being a cunt or playing his cards close to his chest so we don't get ripped off, who knows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Or what ads said, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What has been clear from the very start of Ashley's tenure is that he doesn't tell his managers how much they have to spend. Whether that's just him being a c*** or playing his cards close to his chest so we don't get ripped off, who knows? I'd suggest the manager knows full well how much he has to spend. He's just (quite rightly) not telling the press. Every club in the world knows we've got £35m burning a hole in our pockets after Christmas, we'd be mental to not try to play this down somewhat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Just a thought for those already sharpening their pitchforks: A) Pardew comes out and says "We've got £30m to spend, we're going to go on a spending spree!". All other clubs hike their prices up and we get fucked roundly in the ass spending £30m on 2 crap players bought as panic buys on deadline day B) Pardew says he's "Trying to get the owner to spend" and is able to negotiate a lot of really good deals, and we still spend £30m by the end of the window Which would people prefer? Why on earth would the manager come out and declare he has bucketloads of money to spend? What benefit could this possibly have to the club or our ambitions in the transfer market this summer? Not saying B is definitely true, but to completely discount the fact that we're just being a bit clever about how we go about things is fucking madness. [Cue all the "cockney mafia out" mob screaming "Waaaaa, but it's Ashley man, he's trying to destroy us!"] Pretty much what I was getting at only seconds before! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 All this hubub...the window isnt even open yet for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has there is to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Looks like Gameiro could be going to PSG. Hardly a step up tbh. 4th in Ligue 1 with a game in hand. Maybe he feels he's better suited playing there for a couple more seasons? They've got a pretty good squad IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. We're just trying to be a bit clever man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 If the two players were say N'Zogbia and A.N.Shithotstriker AND we kept all the good players already at the club then you could feasibly argue that two was enough. Won't happen like that though. Shiitøtstræikér’s just signed a new three-year deal with Middelfart G&BK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 If the two players were say N'Zogbia and A.N.Shithotstriker AND we kept all the good players already at the club then you could feasibly argue that two was enough. Won't happen like that though. Shiitøtstræikér’s just signed a new three-year deal with Middelfart G&BK Bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. Of course it would man. If he'd announced a budget of £25m and we still hadn't identified/succeeded in our targets by late August we'd be shafted by clubs knowing we still had that money sitting there waiting to be spent. Same if we went in for a player early doors too, mind. If we play it clever we could get far better deals this summer without announcing our budget. We picked up Tiote for £3.5m and Ben Arfa for £5m this season. Genuine quality for what, in this day and age, is peanuts for International class players. It serves no purpose for anybody at the club to announce how much we have/don't have to spend, what good could it possibly do? I'm not sure how transfer deals work (I'm sure it's not as easy as it is on FM) but if a player comes available who we're interested in and we speak (privately) to the club and tell them we have, for arguments sake, £7m left of our seasons budget, they could become interested to sell at that price. Whereas if we say we have £15m left they could say "We'll sell to you for £10m". Just can't see how it would benefit anybody other than those impatient enough to want to know our budget, and the selling clubs. EDIT: Just re-read your post Dave and noticed the 'without revealing what it was' bit Apologies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Can't see anyone getting depressed or sharpening their pitchforks. There would be nothing wrong with Pardew saying he knew what his budget was without revealing it. That wouldn't push prices up at all. What's strange (and worrying to some) is that he appears to be still unaware of what he has there is to spend, or that he has work to do to convince the owner to release some funds. The part in bold is what he is saying, nobody knows whether he actually knows how much he has. Besides saying something like "I know how much I have but am not telling anyone" comes across as being smug and would still be an indication that we have money to splash. Given that most other clubs already probably assume we have the 35M to spend, Pardew's quote is the best way to create some doubt in the selling clubs' minds of how much we have. Of course at this point we're all just speculating, the proof will be in the pudding come Sept 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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