wacko Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I'm sorry, it was unnecessarily inflammatory but the happy birthday sing song made me nauseous even on reflection and it's the self-pity rather than anger which riles me. Excuse my vitriol, obviously it's silly to generalise Fair enough. We all have something that presses our buttons. The self-pity makes me cringe, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can't watch that video without bursting into tears, I love him so much. :lol: :lol: :lol: Has rafa been beheaded or something? Do you not know man? He was a revolutionary... When all hope seemed lost he made a heroic sacrifice to secure victory for the noble scousers in their battle for freedom against the oppressive forces of Hicks and Gillette. Or, in our terms, he was sacked because he's a f***ing s*** manager. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 That may be true for you wacko but there was definitely people who wanted him out. Likewise with Hodgson, having said that 5 years down the line we'll still be hearing about how managers never get chased out by the Liverpool fans. Of course there were: there always are. They were saying the same thing after Istanbul. Every club has its idiot supporters. That should be pretty obvious to an NUFC fan, I'd imagine. If you want to do what the media does and pick and choose your fans to back up your angle, that's your prerogative. Doesn't make it right, though. The vast majority of knowledgable LFC fans did not want Rafa to leave, and he remains a hero. You were replying to a post which said Liverpool fans wanted Benitez out and said "What? No, we were screaming for the owners to f*** off. Rafa's a f***ing legend." Like I said, that may be true for you but you're not speaking on behalf of the Liverpool fanbase when you say that, which is what my point was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 That may be true for you wacko but there was definitely people who wanted him out. Likewise with Hodgson, having said that 5 years down the line we'll still be hearing about how managers never get chased out by the Liverpool fans. Of course there were: there always are. They were saying the same thing after Istanbul. Every club has its idiot supporters. That should be pretty obvious to an NUFC fan, I'd imagine. If you want to do what the media does and pick and choose your fans to back up your angle, that's your prerogative. Doesn't make it right, though. The vast majority of knowledgable LFC fans did not want Rafa to leave, and he remains a hero. You were replying to a post which said Liverpool fans wanted Benitez out and said "What? No, we were screaming for the owners to f*** off. Rafa's a f***ing legend." Like I said, that may be true for you but you're not speaking on behalf of the Liverpool fanbase when you say that, which is what my point was. No, but I was expressing the majority opinion (which I share) of the fans I know and the posters on LFC forums. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer. As I've said before, with the exception of a few die-hard Rafa haters, LFC fans laid the blame for Rafa's rotten last season squarely at the feet of H&G. The general informed consensus on Rafa was that he was one of the best managers in Europe and would be very hard to replace, despite his flaws, chief of which was his tendency to be overly tactical and never let the side cut loose. This was both the reason for our success in Europe and relative struggle in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I still found it baffling that Rafa wanted to sell Alonso for Barry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Everyone did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can't watch that video without bursting into tears, I love him so much. :lol: :lol: :lol: Has rafa been beheaded or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can't watch that video without bursting into tears, I love him so much. :lol: :lol: :lol: Has rafa been beheaded or something? Do you not know man? He was a revolutionary... When all hope seemed lost he made a heroic sacrifice to secure victory for the noble scousers in their battle for freedom against the oppressive forces of Hicks and Gillette. Or, in our terms, he was sacked because he's a f***ing s*** manager. What? I'll go a bit slower for you if you like. RAFA. IS. A. S***. MANAGER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 supa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Tend to think we'd probably idolise a manager if he won us the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Tend to think we'd probably idolise a manager if he won us the Champions League. I think it's a fair position to take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Tend to think we'd probably idolise a manager if he won us the Champions League. Some great signings though........Aquilani, Keane, Insua, N'Gog I think it's a fair position to take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Tend to think we'd probably idolise a manager if he won us the Champions League. Some great signings though........Aquilani, Keane, Insua, N'Gog I think it's a fair position to take. Alonso, Mascherano, Torres... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Tend to think we'd probably idolise a manager if he won us the Champions League. Some great signings though........Aquilani, Keane, Insua, N'Gog I think it's a fair position to take. Alonso, Mascherano, Torres... And he treated Alonso well didn't he... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Can't beat a bit o' Barry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Looks like they will end up spending over £50m on 2 players. That £50m could have been MUCH better spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Looks like they will end up spending over £50m on 2 players. That £50m could have been MUCH better spent. Who's that then? Suarez and your lad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Henderson for £18m. Surely a goal for Parky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Henderson for £18m. Surely a goal for Parky? £18 million?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Didn't count Suarez because it looks like he will be an outstanding signing. I was referring to Carroll and Henderson. You cannot say that you got value for money. Of course, it might work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Looks like they will end up spending over £50m on 2 players. That £50m could have been MUCH better spent. Who's that then? Suarez and your lad? Wacko, where's all this outlay coming from? Your accounts will look a bit scary after last year (no CL) then this (no Europe). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Looks like they will end up spending over £50m on 2 players. That £50m could have been MUCH better spent. Who's that then? Suarez and your lad? Wacko, where's all this outlay coming from? Your accounts will look a bit scary after last year (no CL) then this (no Europe). It's really only £18m net since the New Year after the Henderson signing. (Torres & Babel out, Carroll, Suarez & Henderson in) They still could and should have spent that a helluva lot better though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Fairplay to the scouse c***s, if they get Hendo & then Wickham they will have lot of good young English players in there ranks of course not all of them will make it to the top. Liverpool players picked for England 'U' teams last season, used Wiki as the TheFA site is s**** compared to what it used to be. U16's David Moli (picked for U17s as well) U17's Tyrell Belford, Matthew Regan,Brad Smith, Raheem Sterling,Jack Dunn, Adam Morgan & Jordan Lussey U18's Jack Robinson,Conor Coady & Conor Thomas U21's Martin Kelly,Jay Spearing & Andy Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Looks like they will end up spending over £50m on 2 players. That £50m could have been MUCH better spent. Who's that then? Suarez and your lad? Wacko, where's all this outlay coming from? Your accounts will look a bit scary after last year (no CL) then this (no Europe). AFAIK the owners are willing to invest some cash in the team. They've said there's money available for transfers, but understandably not how much. We're looking to offload high-earning fringe players to cut the wage bill, and overall it's financially viable seeing as the owners got the club relatively cheaply. It's still early doors, but it looks like we might have some proper sports folk in charge instead of bu$ine$$men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 question is whos going to buy these high earning fringe players, not exactly going to be a huge line of clubs for the likes of Joe Cole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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