Disco Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Evra will probably have decent grip of Spanish being French, fairly similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 As if I couldn't already hate Poyet enough. Aye..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Actually annoys me how he has become a decent coach/manager. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 can't really be arsed with this whole racism thing but life has taught me there are always massive misunderstandings between people talking in a language that is not their own, especially here where there are native french and spanish speakers with engish in the mix on a fucking football pitch in a heated match pc brigade are having a fucking field day like (on here too not just in the real world) 2 options for me; he's meant it in a racist way and liverpool are lawyering the thing to death over tiny nuances of language or evra has heard something and misinterpreted it and now won't back down...don't really care tbh hope they both somehow get long bans any history of racism accusations from suarez anywhere else? if not probably needs the benefit of the doubt imo, spanish is not english some people need to realise that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 As if I couldn't already hate Poyet enough. Disgusting human being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 can't really be arsed with this whole racism thing but life has taught me there are always massive misunderstandings between people talking in a language that is not their own, especially here where there are native french and spanish speakers with engish in the mix on a fucking football pitch in a heated match pc brigade are having a fucking field day like (on here too not just in the real world) 2 options for me; he's meant it in a racist way and liverpool are lawyering the thing to death over tiny nuances of language or evra has heard something and misinterpreted it and now won't back down...don't really care tbh hope they both somehow get long bans any history of racism accusations from suarez anywhere else? if not probably needs the benefit of the doubt imo, spanish is not english some people need to realise that Negrito. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Did it never occur to Suarez that Evra might interpret the term 'negrito' as an insult? Surely anyone with half a brain would realise the dangers, whatever that term might supposedly mean in Uruguay. It's very hard to protest complete innocence on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 my guess is he's as thick as pigshit and acts accordingly, my guess is also he meant it in racist way too but no-one can prove anything can they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Joe Cole just said of FF that he would have no problem playing for Liverpool again because he's played lots of football at a much higher level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Joe Cole just said of FF that he would have no problem playing for Liverpool again because he's played lots of football at a much higher level Legend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PhilB Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Joe Cole just said of FF that he would have no problem playing for Liverpool again because he's played lots of football at a much higher level I don't know which is sadder, you considering it so important you need to write it on a football forum, or the fact that you've completely misunderstood him. He was talking about himself and his own football, he knows he played crap for us, and is capable of playing a higher level of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Quite a good interview with Cole, as was the one with him in The Guardian the other week. Shame he lost his way after that injury, as he was one of the few England players that more often than not always done himself justice at International Level. Although he never lived up to the early hype of when he played in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Quite a good interview with Cole, as was the one with him in The Guardian the other week. Shame he lost his way after that injury, as he was one of the few England players that more often than not always done himself justice at International Level. Although he never lived up to the early hype of when he played in the middle. Shouldn't have gone to Chelsea. Mourinho, to an extent, ruined him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Quite a good interview with Cole, as was the one with him in The Guardian the other week. Shame he lost his way after that injury, as he was one of the few England players that more often than not always done himself justice at International Level. Although he never lived up to the early hype of when he played in the middle. Shouldn't have gone to Chelsea. Mourinho, to an extent, ruined him. Aye. In his younger days, he was kind of like Hoddle, as in the fact those over here dubbed him a luxury player, whereas if he played on the continent he would have had a team built around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I see Dalglish is still spinning the Carroll cost -15 mil comedy line in the Observer this morning. Think he's also down -15 on goals scored against his predecessor? Hope the pedants don't take this post too seriously. Pedants or resident Liverpool fans... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 -£15m is closer to his true value, so at least he's getting something right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Quite a good interview with Cole, as was the one with him in The Guardian the other week. Shame he lost his way after that injury, as he was one of the few England players that more often than not always done himself justice at International Level. Although he never lived up to the early hype of when he played in the middle. Shouldn't have gone to Chelsea. Mourinho, to an extent, ruined him. Aye. In his younger days, he was kind of like Hoddle, as in the fact those over here dubbed him a luxury player, whereas if he played on the continent he would have had a team built around him. Which continent would that be? I always felt he missed something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 5-5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 5-5 Reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Think it stays 4-4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 12-9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Took the mini-series out of the thread title because it was annoying me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Then I'll try to condense. Unequivocally, Suarez addressed Evra with "negrito". This is not inherently, or even most probably, a racist slur. (Folks that speak more than one language will understand; those who don't might not. There is very often not a one-to-one correspondence of a word in one language to a word in another, especially when you consider surrounding connotations as well.) Depending on your agenda, you could translate "negrito" into English as any of (from most negative to most positive): niglet little negro little black man little black one mate darling There are no *objective* grounds for punishment. Suarez said "mate"; Evra heard "little black man" or even "niglet"; both players are correct. The fact that Suarez is a bit of a cunt notwithstanding, the worst they can fairly do is tell Suarez not to use the word again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yeh I'm fairly sure he called him on of the bottom two rather than the race related ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 So four out of those are demeaning someone because of their race directly, and the other two are talking down to him in a way indirectly related to race? Don't see how those definitions help Suarez that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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